Totally agree here dude.

Thing that sucks is that the PBL kit doesn't truly fix the balls hopping the lane guides either. I've had some great games going then boom, ball jumps over the lane guides and even PBL Lane guide extenders, straight into the drain. Totally brutal game at times. Without the center post to make it someone fair and even out the design quirks, I don't know how long I'd keep interested in it as it's just ruthless in the way it can end your ball.

Just finished a bunch of games with the wife!

First pin I have ever had that has given her the "Just one more Game" Feeling! Yes! Took a lifetime!

No More Airballs, stuck balls, and cheap drains!

Playing like it should....smooth and fast!

Happy household here playing away!

Nice !! Out of curiosity, what pitch do you have the game set at?

Dont know.....its eyeballed.....old school......

That's a good sign Art! Maybe she'll give you the "just one more time" feeling too

We're enjoying it too! Just got it today and put this score up already

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i recommend got pro. you cant get really nice ball times on it and the 2 ramps are very fast and slick.

It was meant as a joke hence the LOL.

I think if you like the center post in the game and it makes it more fun for you, familly and others then by all means install it. Whatever makes the game fun for the purchaser is the goal of these "Fun in a box" games. I personally am more of a purist to the original design and like to conquer the game, but that's what I enjoy and like and I haven't been frustrated by the toughness of the game.

That being said:

I would install the post in this situation to satisfy the family. I would rather have a ghostbusters with a center post then sale the ghostbusters.

So, attempted to move the outlane posts, and started to tear the playfield apart! Its like they got them in, didnt let them cure, and just got them out as quick as possible! So, now I cant move the posts without ruining my game. Unreal we pay a ton for these LEs, and so many issues. Even the flipper bats were not aligned correctly, had to adjust them as well as 4 switches.

gb le unboxed today. build date 8-1-16
guosting on one insert for storage facility. seems the issues are not fixed and games being shipped anyway.

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Hmmm

That ain't good.

Looks like they just don't have a solution for the time being and just decided to ramp up production again anyhow and deal with the consequences later.

I'm sure a large % of buyers will never know or realize what is going on.

They gotta keep the line moving as they say.

Would be interested in knowing who inspected your game. Having to adjust four switches and align the flippers is ridiculous. Harold inspected mine and no issues out of box so far.

Like I said this afternoon Anthony, check the actual date stamped on the playfield, not the machine build date. That should tell you more. If your playfield is stamped late July then I would say they haven't fixed anything. Mine is stamped mid June and so far have no issues with ghosting after about 400 plays.

I heard Stern's next game will be Deliverance

They're choosing 1 lucky GBLE owner to play the role of Ned Beatty on the translite

"Sqqqqweeeeeeeeeee"

Harold is the production code for the game, not an actual employee.

All, that's right. I remember seeing that a while back. Thanks for correcting me.

They haven't fixed anything yet because they're still working through the last batch of pf's. I hope their trying something with the new batch. I "think" a batch is 500 or so. Mine says 116 of 510.

That's actually a damn good clue. The posts have fused with the cc as it hadn't fully cured. So this lends some credence to the theory that the ghosting occurs due to a lack of drying time. Maybe new owners really *should* wait a month with the glass off... what a situation

Is there room to just add another post at the lower position? Then use a larger ring to go over both.

GHOSTING, ghostbusters premium

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"And the plot thickens"

I Expected this since the newest le's still are and these are the same playfields....

I am starting to think this is true myself....I know I would wait to play with the glass off if I was buying NIB right now.

Premiums shipped? When did that happen?

nothing has changed since day 1...
until now, its just a question of luck, than with or without ghosting
and dont be to much happy if you're in the "without" club, as may be this can quickly change in time

Well, the next question is, wonder if Aerosmith will have ghosting?

Hopefully, 100% NOT!

Borg, Lyman, Donny, LCD - but we don't want any ghosts on this game...

In my pro The same

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What about Shadow?

The top guys at Stern have to be stressing out and losing sleep over this.

This game is a huge success and they were licking their lips with the sales numbers...

Now they see 60%+ playfields having issues that may need to be replaced.

The numbers are so high even their legal team is likely getting involved, because if they don't make it right something like this is elegible for legal action from customers.

I am hopefully it won't get to that point, but they really have to be stressing about how much money they were making off this game, to how much it's going to cost them to fix all these games they have kept shipping- even with knowing there was a problem this entire time.

I wish .....She doesnt like learning any rules....just what she calls, "fun".

44 years, more pins then I have in my profile, this is the first game she asks to play with me, play on her own,
or simply tell guests we had over from England...picking up my last bulb effort..That its fun!

Rare compliment from someone who has had no interest before.

Cant say everyone will feel this way, but so far, havent had any guests disagree....(or they are being polite)

The only way the "legal team" is getting involved right now is dealing with the supplier of the PF's.

Stern went from no ghosting PF's from TWD and prior to across the board ghosting now. Are they responsible for producing their own PF's now?

Something changed and they know what it is.

Stern knows they have to take care of these PF issues or they won't be "licking their lips" about making money in the future.

This is at Logan arcade.

on top of all my other issues, now the drop target on the right scolari bros broke. Man, i have never had this many issues before on a stern. I have had this game for 2 weeks and glass seems to have been off more than on.

Maybe you are a true ghostbuster.......sorry to hear you are having all this trouble

here is the Storage Facility insert on my GB Pro. You can feel a tiny ridge where the clear coat is cracked. sent an email off to Stern this morning, still waiting to hear back. Originally you could not feel any ridge where the ghosting was appearing when i first noticed it. If your game has ghosting and hasnt already done this, it probably will eventually. My game/playfield was built back in April.

My distributor simply said clean the area up and put a strip of mylar over the ridge so it doesnt break down any further. I havent done anything yet, waiting to see what Stern says.

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I would bet money that all these problems are related to Sterns cheaping out in on way or another. I really wanted this pin despite it being produced by Stern. Not gonna happen now. I still wonder what people will do down the road when parts are needed be it computer boards, ramps, plastics or scoops. They certainly wont be out there like they are for the W/B games. You know those cheap ass boards aren't going to last long or I'm guessing the power supply either.

People said the same thing when WMS shut down... "you won't be able to get parts, etc"!! Instead a whole cottage industry built up around it and the same will happen for Stern machines if the company ever shuts down.
Ramps and boards will be remade, etc. If there are people out there with money then somebody will try to step in to meet the demand.
Let's just hope Stern sells enough machines in the meantime to build up the critical mass of owners.

When the company shuts down yes, maybe, if Stern allows the patents to be bought. While they are still in business they aren't going to make parts for older machines available.

Is the insert sinking?

i dont really know what its doing. the rest of the insert seems fine, the original white spots had not grown since i first noticed them, its just along that edge, like there was some air between the edge of the insert and the clear and now with some wear and tear its broken out the clear coat. My concern now is saving the spot along that edge where the clear is very finely cracked.

I just ordered GB and could cancel and wait a few months, Would anyone recommend that? I am suppose to take delivery in late September.

I should have been more precise. I ordered GB Premium.

Depends....do you want to be posting pics of your inserts and complaining in September?

I canceled my pro until I feel the issue is fixed. This game is going to be available for a while. Be patient and avoid the headaches this issue could bring. Just my .02c

I would 6,700 ghosting cracking and no response from stern - and no warranty just some who have luck some who do not. Wait till they fix it also more orders canceled will get it fixed faster vote with green!

I would strongly consider canceling if I wasn't in for a LE.

kinda why i took the delivery. one ghosted insert.