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Getaway HS - Sound issue - Need advice


By FlippinJimmy

10 months ago



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#1 10 months ago

My GHSII was my favorite game. But lately I am having an issue which makes it less enjoyable to play. When I hit the pop bumper the supercharger sound is played. It stays this way until I hit the supercharger or the saucer and activate another sound. This is making game play a drag.

Not sure what caused this. At around the same time I installed a Pinsound and custom soundtrack I also blew a IC on the board by shorting the coil. I replaced the transistor and fuse and everything worked fine with the exception of the pop bumper/supercharger sound. I downloaded latest firmware and reinstalled new mix by Mr. Tantrum. I might have caused the issue then by my poor soldering job but not sure how to test this issue.

Any thoughts on what it could be? Would appreciate your thoughts on this. Below is the post to the issue I had with the transistor.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/pop-bumper-issue-replaced-26-1200-with-ao-26-1200-diode#post-5219485

#2 10 months ago

Just downloaded new firmware again. Reinstalled new files and still having the same issue. If one bumper fires by itself it doesn't trigger the super charger sound. Seems to only trigger the sound when multiple bumpers are hit.

Will try to post a video of the issue.

#4 10 months ago

Did you just recently do any work such as replacing switch,diode,part,ect. anywhere under or above the playfield?

#5 10 months ago

Some how you got the pop bumper switch or circuit attached to the ramp switch that triggers that sound. I can’t see what else it would be. Go to the switch test and trigger the ramp switch and the pop switches to see if they show up correctly.

#6 10 months ago
Quoted from pinmike:

Did you just recently do any work such as replacing switch,diode,part,ect. anywhere under or above the playfield?

I did some work with one of the Transistors. I took the pad off the board when I tried to unsolder the old transistor but didn't think I touched any other traces or pads.

The correct sound does play when I hit the supercharger. If the supercharger were playing the bumper sounds I would think that I hooked up the wrong wire somewhere but that is not the case.

It is either an issue with my Pinsound or Board I believe.

#7 10 months ago
Quoted from FlippinJimmy:

I did some work with one of the Transistors. I took the pad off the board when I tried to unsolder the old transistor but didn't think I touched any other traces or pads.
The correct sound does play when I hit the supercharger. If the supercharger were playing the bumper sounds I would think that I hooked up the wrong wire somewhere but that is not the case.
It is either an issue with my Pinsound or Board I believe.

Ok,How about taking a look under the playfield at the pop bumpers and check and see if any loose wiring or if there are diodes that might need to be tested

#8 10 months ago
Quoted from FlippinJimmy:

I did some work with one of the Transistors. I took the pad off the board when I tried to unsolder the old transistor but didn't think I touched any other traces or pads.
The correct sound does play when I hit the supercharger. If the supercharger were playing the bumper sounds I would think that I hooked up the wrong wire somewhere but that is not the case.
It is either an issue with my Pinsound or Board I believe.

I think you're on the right track, this maybe a pinsound issue, but we can't rule out the work you did on the pop as unrelated....go back and check for solder splashes and if all else fails take out the pinsound board out and check the game again to see if it's doing the same thing

#9 10 months ago

Both good ideas. Will do right after the holidays.

Thanks

#10 10 months ago

Guys,

Will you look at these photos and tell me if I have wired incorrectly? It looks like I did not pay attention to which side of the diode I soldered on. Does this make any difference?

Not sure if it is connected to the problem or not but would like to start here before I remove the sound board and install the original.

Thanks

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#11 10 months ago

I switched the wiring and it did not fix the problem.

Here is a video of what happens when the bumper is hit. I have identified the top bumper as the issue.

#12 10 months ago

Oh no do not use screwdriver You can cause a short very easily doing that, use a ball ok, Ok have you tested the diode on that top pop bumper?From looking at your pics pic 1 and pic 3 the diode(Banded side) is soldered in a different direction than the one in pic 2. For pic 1 and 3 follow each of them wires going upstream to another switch and see if the diode is soldered(Banded side) in the same direction as pic 1 switch and pic 3 switch.

#13 10 months ago
Quoted from pinmike:

Oh no do not use screwdriver You can cause a short very easily doing that, use a ball ok, Ok have you tested the diode on that top pop bumper?From looking at your pics pic 1 and pic 3 the diode(Banded side) is soldered in a different direction than the one in pic 2. For pic 1 and 3 follow each of them wires going upstream to another switch and see if the diode is soldered(Banded side) in the same direction as pic 1 switch and pic 3 switch.

Okay, will use ball in the future.

Have not tested the diode. Researching that now.

Think I have the wires soldered on the wrong side of diode. Changing that now. Possibly ruined the diodes??

#14 10 months ago
Quoted from FlippinJimmy:

Okay, will use ball in the future.
Have not tested the diode. Researching that now.
Think I have the wires soldered on the wrong side of diode. Changing that now. Possibly ruined the diodes??

Do you have the schematics on hand?

#15 10 months ago
Quoted from pinmike:

Do you have the schematics on hand?

Mike, I switched the wire to the black side of the diode on all of the bumpers. Problem is now solved. Can't thank you both enough for your help.

Feels great to have the machine working again and to solve the issue.

#16 10 months ago
Quoted from FlippinJimmy:

Mike, I switched the wire to the black side of the diode on all of the bumpers. Problem is now solved. Can't thank you both enough for your help.
Feels great to have the machine working again and to solve the issue.

Awesome!!!! Have fun my friend

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