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I hate how this site doesn't put the pictures in the correct order sometimes. Started working on the donor PF tonight. Then I got tired and will have to finish up tomorrow. Still work in progress.
Quoted from TheCapn:Got it done tonight. Found out a couple things. The airbrush paint (if spilled) is very easy to clean up. I also found out how sharp the needle to the airbrush is...
Please come to my house and perform this repair!
I have paint and everything for when I did several touch ups on the playfield. Somehow I overlooked this section even though I had the entire area apart and broken down. Now just too lazy to take everything apart again to fix it.
Nice work ! You should order one of these before you reassemble.
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Quoted from SUPERBEE:Nice work ! You should order one of these before you reassemble.
http://www.passionforpinball.com/HS2.htm
Very nice! I will indeed keep this in mind when assembly begins.
Got my new decal paper in the mail today. Printed off new decals for the original and donor PF. Got them set and getting things cleaned and setup for tomorrow. Hopefully I can get them cleared again. This is a moment of truth here guys. I have to apply mist coats and let them set for about 10 mins each - layer by layer until the inserts are covered. Hopefully they stay down and I'm not back to where I was last year.
Went and saw Avengers today. That was priority, lol. Then when the temperature dropped down to where I wanted it - I cleared the PFs. When it comes to the donor PF all I did was give it a few medium coats to lock in all the touch ups. Nothing more to show or talk about on that PF. Now, for the original PF I had to take my time. I started with a mist coat over the PF. Basically making it look like little mini droplets all over the place. Waited 5+mins and did another mist coat. The droplets began to merge with the previous ones. Waited another 5+ mins. Then gave the PF a thin coat. Waited 5+ mins. Gave it a regular coating. Waited 5+ mins. Then gave it another. Finished it up with a nice thick coating on top. During this entire process I monitored the decals to make sure no lifting occurred. So far so good. Here are pics. This is now 4 hours after shooting. If you see weird stuff in the clear or on the PF - it's just the reflection of the kill room around it. The pics were even making me run back into the garage to make sure something wasn't wrong, lol. Let's see how it does overnight now...
So, I have been checking on the clearcoat job every 12hrs. As of this morning we have an anomaly. Looks like gas bubbles. Not on all the decals, but less than 5 I would say. This "2X RPM" is the worst of them. I'm not completely pissed because these were meant to be covered in the end anyways, they are just suppose to help with the lack of opacity in the text. By stacking the decals it should help. I have sanded down the PF and will attempt to stack the classic arcade decals on top of the waterslides (coat of clear between them). Before doing that I am performing tests to see how these decals react to the clear this time around. With this set you get a couple extra decals that aren't used so I'm using these for testing. Using the bottom PF section where the apron rests I'm placing a decal and brushing clear on it. The first test seemed to be going good, but I was playing the guessing game with clear and hardener ratio. I don't think it was right because it never hardened and the decal began to wrinkle. Scraped it off and now have a new method and test going. This time around I know I have at least 50/50 ratio for hardener and clear. I have done a single brush over the decal and I will let it sit overnight. Then tomorrow I will apply another coat over it. If this test proves to work then I will be applying the decals and brushing a thin layer of clear over each one day by day til they are covered well enough for a complete spray. All theories right now.
Okay, test #2 is a failure as well. Decal was wrinkled up. Meaning the brush technique is applying too much at one time. So, my next step will be to apply all decals and then mist coat application day by day. That journey will begin tomorrow.
An honest question..
With all this time, and trouble you're having with the playfield, from clearing to insert decals, wouldn't it be easier/quicker to just get a repro playfield and drop it in?
Edit to add: I can't do any of this PF work you're doing, and that I've seen other folks do. So I woulda gotta a repro right off the bat. But now, after seeing you having to do multiple clears and wood work and patches and such.. when do you wipe your hands and say, 'Hey, y'know.. just get a new PF..'?
Quoted from Coyote:An honest question..
With all this time, and trouble you're having with the playfield, from clearing to insert decals, wouldn't it be easier/quicker to just get a repro playfield and drop it in?
Edit to add: I can't do any of this PF work you're doing, and that I've seen other folks do. So I woulda gotta a repro right off the bat. But now, after seeing you having to do multiple clears and wood work and patches and such.. when do you wipe your hands and say, 'Hey, y'know.. just get a new PF..'?
lmao. You think that hasn't crossed my mind?! At this point its the principle of that matter. Not to mention if everything goes well I will have the only Getaway with clear inserts. Now if its worth it - that is yet to be determined. I feel with every fail - I learn something. Which only makes my skills better down the road. Without a doubt there are a majority of people that would have said "F$&# it!" This is why I'm working on two PFs. Just so I have something else to fall back on. Both are looking better and better after every task. If there is anything I have learned doing pinball related restores - its patients.
That fair! 
Was just curious. I love the clear inserts idea, and would love to do that to a couple of my games, but again - ALL those skills are far above anything I can do. 
And yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing it up and running- curious to see the light shows and gameplay with clear inserts..
Quoted from TheCapn:lmao. You think that hasn't crossed my mind?! At this point its the principle of that matter. Not to mention if everything goes well I will have the only Getaway with clear inserts. Now if its worth it - that is yet to be determined. I feel with every fail - I learn something. Which only makes my skills better down the road. Without a doubt there are a majority of people that would have said "F$&# it!" This is why I'm working on two PFs. Just so I have something else to fall back on. Both are looking better and better after every task. If there is anything I have learned doing pinball related restores - its patients.
I hear ya bro. I went through the same thing with my fire. Learned a ton and the fact that there were repos out there, I had nothing to lose. Plus it’s fun at a show when someone ask you if it’s a repro playfield and you can tell them “Nope”. It changes the look on their face. Lol
Today I did work on both PFs.
The donor PF got the shooter lane redone, the ramp shot redone, the upper PF car area redone. For those that don't know. The color grey is a pain in the ass to match 100%.
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The original PF got the rest of classic arcade decals applied. I'm letting them set for a day to see if there is any anomalies that occur with no chemicals. If all is good tomorrow I will shoot the final clear on the donor and apply the first mist coat on the original.
Did some clear this weekend. Started with a mist coat on the original PF. Within 5 mins my worst fear began to take affect. I began to see air bubbles forming in certain inserts. I quickly ran to my tools and got a syringe. Poked holes into the decals to allow air to escape before things got worse.
Here are some pics of right after the mist coat with help from the syringe...
The next day I saw that the PF had subsided and was looking solid. No air bubbles. So I applied another mist coat. 2hrs later I did another. Then 2hrs later I did another. I want to say that I did around 4 or 5 coats. Going to let it stay til around Wednesday. This should lock these inserts in place and I may even be able to apply some wet coats after a little bit of sanding for grip. Here is where I'm at now....
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Quoted from Mr_Tantrum:Keep up the nice work. Did you figure out your bubbling issues?
Dude, its been a battle. The decals don't like the clear for some reason. I believe the light is at the end of the tunnel. All is covered. Just put another wet coat on actually. Building up the top coats so I have room to sand down and not hit a decal. The classic arcade decals are thicker than the water slides. So I have to apply more clear to completely cover them. Then have even more built up so I can sand flat.
Just a quick update before I head off to bed. I got the PF sanded and did a little polish on it. So far it looks great. I'll get it out of the kill room and on the rotisserie tomorrow and get some better pics. I'm curious to see the underside condition of the PF. It has been nailed to the support cabinet for many months now. Not sure how much sludge I'm bound to clean up.
1 month later
Update. Too damn hot in the garage to work on this thing. Also, im more than likely going to have to sand down passed the classic arcade decals. Going to end up double stacking the waterslides. The classic arcades seem to be lifting in certain areas.
2 months later
Thought I would give those that are still following this restoration an update!
Well, the summer was too hot for me to work on this. About a week after my last post the playfield began to show negative signs from the classic arcade decals. I have given up hope on the classics and will have to once again sand down the PF to at least passed the classics and either go with a vinyl print or another layer of waterslides. I began sanding last week and my compressor passed away. Very upsetting. Working on getting a replacement. Will post again when something changes. Thanks, guys.
3 months later
Okay, I have sanded down the PF once again. Only I'm not having to start all over. I have only sanded down to where I can remove the classic arcade decals that went south on me. So, the plan is to stack another layer of water slide insert decals down. Then clear again - HOPEFULLY FOR THE LAST TIME! Not only that, but I will be removing everything from under the PF. This will make it much easier to work with - especially when lining up the inserts on top of each other using a light. I also have an idea on something that I want to do that I don't think has been done before. We shall see. Here are some pics of the current status. Thanks for hanging in there, guys.
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Oops, I accidentally posted in the wrong thread. Sorry, didn't mean to hijack your restoration. Keep up the good work!
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Update. I have thrown up the white flag on this one of a kind Playfield. Although this PF would be great for a lot of people - it isn't up to my standards for the amount of effort I have put into it. So, I'm going to plan B on this one. I hope to give you guys more info by xmas. I will probably make a youtube video to put on my channel about this whole restoration. Stay tuned!
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Quoted from TheCapn:I started this thread over 2 years ago. Now comes the conclusion. Thanks to those that stuck around!
Looking forward to it.
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