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(Topic ID: 267062)

Getaway backbox insert flashlamps/transistors


By JanS

6 months ago



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#1 6 months ago

On my Getaway when a ball loads into the shooter lane all 5 come on. When the ball drains they go off. Then repeats for each ball. A transistor problem would cause them to be off or on constantly correct? Any ideas? Thanks!

#2 6 months ago

Now that is something different!
To be clear, a ball is served into the shooter lane.
5 flasher bulbs in the lamp insert turn on.
As long as the ball sits on the shooter lane switch, the 5 lamps are turned on.
Right?

The 5 lamps are probably driven by separate transistors.
Can you identify the solenoid drive numbers (first page of manual) for the flashers that are turning on?
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#3 6 months ago
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#4 6 months ago

18, 19, 21,23,24. Chris they remain lit from the shooter lane until the ball drains at which point they go out. Then it repeats. There are 89 bulbs associated with them on the playfield but they all work normally. Also the 906's flash slightly when the pops are hit. It's running a P7 ROM

#5 6 months ago

I've had issues like this with mine- are these LED flashers?

#7 6 months ago

My first guess is that the connector for all of those flashers is not in the right place. It should be in J125. Please check and verify that first.
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#8 6 months ago
Quoted from ChrisHibler:

My first guess is that the connector for all of those flashers is not in the right place. It should be in J125. Please check and verify that first.
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Chris pin 1 blank, 2 black/orange, 3 black/red, 4 and 5 blank, 6 blue/green, 7 blank, 8 blue/purple, 9 blue. I marked them all when I pulled them for the restoration so this is where it was to begin.Thanks Chris!

#9 6 months ago
Quoted from JanS:

Chris pin 1 blank, 2 black/orange, 3 black/red, 4 and 5 blank, 6 blue/green, 7 blank, 8 blue/purple, 9 blue. I marked them all when I pulled them for the restration so this is where it was to begin. Could you look at my other post on my magnet issue if this should be my next step? Thanks Chris!

The wire colors noted above differ from what is published in the manual, which was posted earlier by brewchap.
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#10 6 months ago
Quoted from ChrisHibler:

The wire colors noted above differ from what is published in the manual, which was posted earlier by brewchap.
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They are the same colors. Forgot the grey stripe on the last blue. Just look at the BB colors

#11 6 months ago
Quoted from JanS:

They are the same colors. Forgot the grey stripe on the last blue. Just look at the BB colors

Oops. You are right.
If you remove that connector, and then try the same test, the lamps do not light, right?
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#12 6 months ago
Quoted from ChrisHibler:

Oops. You are right.
If you remove that connector, and then try the same test, the lamps do not light, right?
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Correct no flashlamps light on the insert.

#13 6 months ago

Any previous repairs done to the power driver board? Particularly replacement of integrated circuits?

#14 6 months ago

Those flashers are finding ground through that connector on the driver board somehow.
You are absolutely certain that the connector is plugged into J125, right?
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#15 6 months ago
Quoted from ChrisHibler:

Those flashers are finding ground through that connector on the driver board somehow.
You are absolutely certain that the connector is plugged into J125, right?
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Plugged into J125. Clean unmolested boards in the game. Don't know if this has anything to do with it but the mars light has issues. Works perfectly in test but never comes on during play. Wonder if this could be a software bug in the proto ROM?

#16 6 months ago

If the flashers on the playfield that are in parallel with the flashers in the back box act differently then something must be plugged in incorrectly. Let’s see a picture of the lower part of the power driver board.

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#17 6 months ago

Here you go. I tried to get the left, right and middle.
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#18 6 months ago

I think you need to remove the connector in J124 and put it in J106.

Disclaimer: I don't have a Getaway. You should consult the manual and schematics before following any advice I provide.

#19 6 months ago
Quoted from DumbAss:

I think you need to remove the connector in J124 and put it in J106.
Disclaimer: I don't have a Getaway. You should consult the manual and schematics before following any advice I provide.

I agree. You have flasher power connected to the flasher drive circuit. Once you make that change, the issue should be solved.

Good eye dumbass.

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#20 6 months ago

Great call guys. Problem solved. Bought this game and when I pulled the boards for the restoration I marked all the connectors. Someone had it in the wrong location and I just marked it as I pulled it off. What's surprising is they are keyed the same. Now the mars light is working properly too. Thanks to all for your help!

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