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German Screened Ballys

By CactusJack

7 years ago


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#1 7 years ago

The Bally Hoo (or Ballyhoo, Bally Bally Hoo, Bally Ballyhoo) thread brings me to ask this question:

Anyone know exactly what years (or games) Bally actually screened German version of Playfield and Back Glass art for their export games?

I see on IPDB, the Ballyhoo in 69 was done in German. I own a Firecracker and 4 Million BC that are German. I know I have seen a German Capersville (1966).

Just curious.

#2 7 years ago

Special Force has a German version backglass. More sexy, less military.

#3 7 years ago

65 discotek came a german PF

not mine but same -> ebay.com link: itm

#4 7 years ago
Quoted from wiredoug:

65 discotek came a german PF
not mine but same -> ebay.com link

Anyone know what IPDB's policy is on taking photos off the internet (Like from Ebay auctions without watermarks)? The German version is not posted on IPDB.

#5 7 years ago

no idea ... I have one I could photograph ...but no BG in it

#6 7 years ago
Quoted from CactusJack:

Anyone know what IPDB's policy is on taking photos off the internet (Like from Ebay auctions without watermarks)? The German version is not posted on IPDB.

Yes - they won't use pictures without direct permission from the original picture-taker/owner.

#7 7 years ago

of course, dont forget the old bally KISS...

#8 7 years ago
Quoted from CactusJack:

Anyone know what IPDB's policy is on taking photos off the internet (Like from Ebay auctions without watermarks)? The German version is not posted on IPDB.

The IPDB requires the photographer's permission before they will post pictures of a game. In the case of unusual/rare games where the images are ephemeral — eBay auctions, Craigslist ads — you can send the link to the IPDB (http://www.ipdb.org/contact.html) and they will work to obtain the photographer's permission and then add the pictures to the game's entry.

#9 7 years ago

Hmm, there's at least one more game - name escapes me now. I bet O-din would remember it though...

#10 7 years ago
Quoted from DirtFlipper:

Hmm, there's at least one more game - name escapes me now. I bet O-din would remember it though...

Nahhh. Bally wouldn't waste the extra silk screens on a game with a spinner!

#11 7 years ago

I have a German "Band Wagon". BG and PF are both printed in German.

#12 7 years ago

Through a lot of research online and at shows and from personnel experience
I derived the following list of Bally pins
that were made with German Playfields and Backglasses.

Below is a list of Bally Games which have been verified as having been produced
as a German version as well as a standard US release.
Verified with photos of German BG or PF (most found archived on ipdb.org)
German Version is virtually identical in every way to the US version,
except that the BackGlass and PlayField have all or most of the writing in German.
Most every 4 Player Bally games ( with production >100 units) had a German version produced
from 1964 to 1972, ( including a couple of 2 Player models)

Big Day 4P 8/64 (1st verified game with a German version)
Sheba 2P 2/65
Band Wagon 4P 3/65
50/50 2P 7/65
Aces High 4P 8/65
Discotek 2P 9/65
Blue Ribbon 4P 12/65
Wild Wheels 2P 2/66
Six Sticks 6P 3/66
Campus Queen 4P 8/66
Capersville 4P 12/66
Wiggler 4P 8/67
Dogies 4P 1/68
Rockmakers 4P 8/68
Alligator 4P 12/68
Cosmos 4P 1/69
Bally Hoo 4P 11/69
Camelot 4P 2/70
Big Valley 4P 5/70
SeeSaw 4P 11/70 (I own one)
Firecracker 4P 2/71
4 Million BC 4P 5/71 ( I own one)
Fireball 4P 2/72 (last verified game with German version) (I also own one)

It is rumored that a German version existed of the following prototype games
but seems remote since production was so very low, (<100 units)
even though a German language schematic may exist (per info found ipdb).
Joker 4P 6/68
Bali Hi 4P 9/70
Time Tunnel 4P 10/72

There may be a remote chance that
Mariner 4P 11/71 (unverified);
and other (2P) multiplayer games produced between 1964 & 1972
were also made as German versions,
but no (verified) photo proof exists ( to my knowledge).
Sheba, 50/50 & Wild Wheels
and now apparently Discotek (from a ebay.de posting listed in this pinside thread)
are the only Bally (verified with photos) 2 player German games made;
and Bally may have stopped making German language pins
with 4 Million BC in May 1971;
but made special exception with Fireball in Feb 1972.

I know of no single player Bally pins that were made with German BG & PFs.

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#13 7 years ago

I did not include KISS in my list above, as none of the words on the PF or BG are in German, even though the modified BG was made for the German market, to avoid any connection with the Nazi SS.

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#14 7 years ago

I picked up a german fireball back in 78 when the company I work for was unexporting containerloads for Christmas sales. 50 games in a container and those Germans did not know that you could actually clean and maintain games. Some of those games you could not even see the artwork on the playfield. Ahh, those were the good old days

#15 7 years ago
Quoted from pinbobbo:

those Germans did not know that you could actually clean and maintain games.

That's pretty odd. Germans are usually sticklers for keeping things cleaned and maintained.
Rein machen! Schoen putzen! They also don't generally abuse machines either. Now they may
spill a beer on a game now and then, but that's purely accidental!

#16 7 years ago
Quoted from pinbobbo:

I picked up a german fireball back in 78 when the company I work for was unexporting containerloads for Christmas sales. 50 games in a container and those Germans did not know that you could actually clean and maintain games. Some of those games you could not even see the artwork on the playfield. Ahh, those were the good old days

Pacincho Palace or G.A.M.E.S ??? Perhaps?

#17 7 years ago

I swear I saw a German version of The Wiggler on craigslist a few years back.

#18 7 years ago
Quoted from jrpinball:

That's pretty odd. Germans are usually sticklers for keeping things cleaned and maintained.
Rein machen! Schoen putzen! They also don't generally abuse machines either. Now they may
spill a beer on a game now and then, but that's purely accidental!

Du hast recht . You are right .

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