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It was suggested by a mod to break out some discussion for a new topic so I thought I'd kick it off. What are the general rules and guidelines for a pinball tournament regarding refunds?
If someone isn't allowed or able to finish a tournament because of management rules shouldn't they be given a refund?
If someone can't handle following tournament rules and anticipates wanting a refund because a small tournament fee is a big deal to them, then perhaps they should save both parties the trouble and not enter in the first place.
Quoted from PinlordMarc:If someone isn't allowed or able to finish a tournament because of management rules shouldn't they be given a refund?
Tournaments are a huge pain in the ass to run without dealing with people begging for refunds if they get into a fight, get kicked out, or just decide to leave.
When you pay your tournament money, just kiss it goodbye forever, unless you manage to win it back. That's kind of the point of the tournament.
What are we talking about here? 20 bucks? 30 bucks? "The principle?"
It doesn't really matter. Tournaments are usually a "no refund" zone. It's not like Wal-Mart where you can return a VCR without the box and still expect store credit.
Is this thread really about general rules/guidelines for a pinball tournament, or a way for you to continue trying to demand the pinball world spins the direction that you think it should?
The mods were trying to save you from yourself by closing the last thread, and now you are going right down the same path again. I am fairly certain I can even guess what your next entitled posts are going to say.
Quoted from CrazyLevi:Tournaments are a huge pain in the ass to run without dealing with people begging for refunds if they get into a fight, get kicked out, or just decide to leave.
When you pay your tournament money, just kiss it goodbye forever, unless you manage to win it back. That's kind of the point of the tournament.
What are we talking about here? 20 bucks? 30 bucks? "The principle?"
It doesn't really matter. Tournaments are usually a "no refund" zone. It's not like Wal-Mart where you can return a VCR without the box and still expect store credit.
Got to disagree with you there. Bucks are bucks.
The fact is: if you're going to host an economic event between buyers-sellers, there are some basic rules that are implied. You don't get to rip people off in commerce just because the amount of the good or service is less than 50 bucks.
Pinball tournaments are "economic events?"
Dude, people are gonna pick on you because you sound like a huge pill, but I'm not gonna do that.
I'll just say, please don't ever come to any pinball tournament I'm involved in running. And do everybody else a favor and don't go to theirs.
Also...new user..bizarre posts that don't make sense..."I'm rich" bragging...this is starting to sound like a work. Start of a strange holiday weekend surely!
In some tournaments that I have attended, there is a warning, up front, that the wrong type of violent/abusive behavior, including machine abuse, can cause you to be ejected with no refund. So, everyone understands what that means up front. And persons that might have a tendency to exhibit that type of behavior are told directly in front of everyone in attendance.
Quoted from skink91:Imagine that… I was spot on.
We are talking about prices of tournaments now. CrazyLevi seems to think that if a tournament is a low price they can do whatever they want. Imagine if we were talking about some other product? "Oh sorry your shampoo turned your hair purple and you cant ask for a refund because it's below $50." Its ridiculous
Quoted from Dent00:In some tournaments that I have attended, there is a warning, up front, that the wrong type of violent/abusive behavior, including machine abuse, can cause you to be ejected with no refund. So, everyone understands what that means up front. And persons that might have a tendency to exhibit that type of behavior are told directly in front of everyone in attendance.
IMO this sounds like a good rule
Quoted from PinlordMarc:We are talking about prices of tournaments now. CrazyLevi seems to think that if a tournament is a low price they can do whatever they want. Imagine if we were talking about some other product? "Oh sorry your shampoo turned your hair purple and you cant ask for a refund because it's below $50." Its ridiculous
Oh, something is most certainly ridiculous… I am thinking you just haven’t quite caught the scent yet though.
Quoted from PinlordMarc:IMO this sounds like a good rule
Well gee, I wonder who this would apply to? 
First up - I run a lot of tournaments.
OP - when I read your original thread, I had to bite my tongue.
Just reading that made me cringe.
And you would have written it to put yourself in a good light ... consciously or not ... which makes it even more cringe.
Pinball isn’t the NFL. Not a combat sport. Its a bunch of people getting together to play some antiquated machines for fun, to talk some shit and and usually down a couple of beers.
You went into a new environment, probably a bunch of people that have been playing together for years, threw your weight around and tried to show everyone how awesome you are at pinball.
How about going in humbly, learning how things work, take it slowly, and earn respect?
As to getting your $35 bucks back ... sorry, I think that’s on you. 
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So that thread was closed and this is supposed to be about the general rules. I guess your point is that you seem to think that coming into a new tournament means that there shouldn't be established rules or any form of order? Sorry but that is ridiculous because no one new would ever be able to participate in Pinball.
Quoted from sunnRAT:If someone can't handle following tournament rules and anticipates wanting a refund because a small tournament fee is a big deal to them, then perhaps they should save both parties the trouble and not enter in the first place.
What does this even mean? Sorry but no one is following your logic here
Hey buddy - if you do some listening to go with your talking, you may just figure out how the world actually works.
Trust me when I tell you that EVERYONE is following the logic here except you… I can tell you what I usually infer from that, but you need to work that out yourself.
Quoted from skink91:Hey buddy - if you do some listening to go with your talking, you may just figure out how the world actually works.
Trust me when I tell you that EVERYONE is following the logic here except you… I can tell you what I usually infer from that, but you need to work that out yourself.
Can you even address one point directly?
Quoted from PinlordMarc:Can you even address one point directly?
I can. I even will. Which one would you prefer?
I came to this thread for free and seem to have gotten $35 worth of entertainment just reading these commits
Quoted from PinlordMarc:Can you even address one point directly?
Kaneda how many profiles are you running right now?
Quoted from PinlordMarc:If someone isn't allowed or able to finish a tournament because of management rules shouldn't they be given a refund?
Absolutely not. If you were ejected from a tournament, you get zero refund.
Quoted from PinlordMarc:IMO this sounds like a good rule
Every tournament has this rule. If you’re unclear about it before starting, speak to the TD.
Quoted from Mattyk:Kaneda how many profiles are you running right now?
More of a Cornelius vibe if you ask me.
Quoted from skink91:The mods were trying to save you from yourself by closing the last thread, and now you are going right down the same path again.
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