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GENCO Owners Club


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#51 1 year ago

I unexpectedly joined the Genco club earlier this week, with a rescue that was destined for the side of the road.

It's a 1953 Golden Nugget, cabinet itself is in excellent condition. The door needs some carpentry work in the corners. The playfield is nice but not perfect. The backglass is pretty much trash.

Mercifully, I was able to find a schematic online. Currently, the score motor runs immediately upon turning the machine on, and does not stop. It counts the score reels down to zero, lights go on, etc.

I don't know what the startup sequence should be, so I'm just going to have to muddle around with it until I stumble across whatever switch(es) isn't in the correct position to allow startup.

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#52 1 year ago

I just picked up a working 34 Pontiac but it's missing the coin box. Does anyone know where I could get one? It's in pretty good shape for how old it is.

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#53 1 year ago

I finished the wiring. I would say 80 % was dry rotted and fell apart while tracing the wiring out. I was able to try the game and it does work but I need to remove the mushroom spring type bumpers and straighten some pin contacts out. A lot are touching. A work in progress. I didn't use two of the relays. They served no purpose as wired. I can't come up with a good reason to use them. It would be nice to see another game and trace out its wiring. The tilts weren't needed either, but I like them so I made one for the right side (not shown) and they work fine.

I just need to clean the playfield next. That will be a winter project. Pretty much dreading that.

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#54 1 year ago

Nice! You put suppression caps across the spring bumpers? Interesting idea. Should keep sparks down.

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#55 1 year ago

Folks, I have this great Lucky Strike although prior owner tampered with the transformer and I am looking for someone that owns this model to take a photo of the underside area with transformer so I can get mine back to its original. The prior owner did a lot wrong and when plugged in the game smolders and crackles and wants to burn. ANY help would be great!

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#56 1 year ago
Quoted from jacksopen:

Folks, I have this great Lucky Strike although prior owner tampered with the transformer and I am looking for someone that owns this model to take a photo of the underside area with transformer so I can get mine back to its original. The prior owner did a lot wrong and when plugged in the game smolders and crackles and wants to burn. ANY help would be great!

This should be posted in the "worst hacks" thread! Yikes!

#57 1 year ago

Bridge rectifier of the year, and that transformer looks toasted!!

#58 1 year ago

Edit: Genco's Bosco pulled from storage & took a picture. A diode bridge was installed on Bosco many years ago. Center tap from the transformer is connected to "+" on the diode bridge. Opposite leg of the bridge is connected to the "ground" wire, on the frame of the transformer. Old line voltage wiring was replaced with some modern 18 gauge lamp cord wiring. Line fuse label calls for a 3 amp fuse.

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#59 1 year ago

Took my Genco Cadillac to the 2016 MGC where the thousands coil on the stepper unit got fried. It seems they didn't make these to be repaired!

The coil was sealed (Steve Young calls 'em "coil in a can") and spot welded to the stepper. I had to do some grinding to remove it, then sent it to Andrew Barney at APB Enterprises where he wound up a new one that works great! I had to make a new stop out of an expansion plug and hose clamp and it seems to be holding up well. Great to have it alive again!!

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#60 1 year ago

Hey all, just picked up a '33 Silver Cup but the piece of metal that goes on the back of the coin mechanism that activates the reset of the machine is missing, does anyone have a decnt photo of the back of the coin door for one or similar that I cam see please?

Courtney x

#61 1 year ago

Oh and anyone got any idea what kind of plunger spring I need for it?

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#62 1 year ago

Just picked up a 32 Jiggers Jr. Little cab restore and she should be good.

-Jeff

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#63 1 year ago

I just got my first pin. A 1950 genco south pacific.
It was my grandpas. Looks great, but its not keeping score correctly. I went in to check it out and to fix a few switches. Its working better but still not top notch and no one around STL will touch it lol. Ill habe to crack it open and clean and adjust more i suppose!

Also, theres 6 wires not plugged in at top of back cabinet. Anyone got one that could tell me the order? 2 yellow and 4 green.

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#64 1 year ago
Quoted from Darenm:

Also, theres 6 wires not plugged in at top of back cabinet. Anyone got one that could tell me the order? 2 yellow and 4 green.

Look at the card to the right of the wires-- you connect those wires to correspond to the free balls (or replays?) that you want the machine to give.

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#65 10 months ago

Can I be in the cool kid's OG (Original Genco) club now?

Just a few quick pics of it broken down. I love how "Free Game" is crossed out everywhere and replaced with "Skill Points". Sure, that fooled em!

My first adventure into a Genco....hopefully it goes well. Has been indoors for its whole life and I am SOO happy it has all its bell shaped bumper caps. Betting those would be inpossible to replace

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#66 9 months ago

Hello Everyone
I am new here and I have a 1949 RipSnorter that I am restoring back to as original as I can get it. You can see from the pictures what condition it was in when I bought it and where it is now. As I'm sure many of you know it's not easy finding parts for them so any help or tips you might have would be greatly appreciated. Right now I have most of it back together but the pop bumpers were disconnected so maybe someone could send me a picture of the underside where they are wired. I think it should be pretty straightforward because there are only two wires. One for the light and one that goes to the skirt as I recall (going from memory). Thanks in advance for any help and again.....Glad to be here

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#67 9 months ago

I have a parts machine rip snorter that I'd love to get rid of for free......I'll ship you parts if you pay for postage. I live in South Florida. There is stuff missing from it. You can see pictures at http://www.pinballowners.com/jcg9998. If you can pick it up, you can have it.

#68 9 months ago
Quoted from jcg9998:

I have a parts machine rip snorter that I'd love to get rid of for free......I'll ship you parts if you pay for postage. I live in South Florida. There is stuff missing from it. You can see pictures at http://www.pinballowners.com/jcg9998. If you can pick it up, you can have it.

To jcg9998
Thank you so much for your offer. It's very generous. I am trying to figure out the best way to get it here. There is a big arcade show here in the Chicago area next week and was wondering if you or someone you know would be heading up for it. I could easily pick it up there. Otherwise is there a way for you to get it on a skid for pickup? I could maybe arrange to have it picked up that way.

Thank you again for your offer.

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#69 8 months ago

Got a Screwball since 1 week and looking what is right and what is wrong.
Did found out that the shooter housing assembly is complete wrong, so looking for one ( help ) and the plastic numbers covers 1 to ?? ( see the picture of the cabinet )

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#70 8 months ago

Hi Klokkie,

Nice find with that Screwball. There's a guy on Facebook (Tom Considine...look in the group "Woodrail pinball machines, EM arcade games and little mechanical pins"), who recently restored one. Perhaps he'll be of some help to you.

Good luck with the restore!
-Ryan

#71 8 months ago

Never knew this club existed, but coincidentally I picked-up my first Genco machine last week. It's a 1940 Genco "Metro" and it's in fabulous aesthetic and functional condition. Really proud to have this in my collection:

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The ruleset for this game is quite involved:

http://www.pinballcollectorsresource.com/russ_files/metro.html

...and, boy, is it fun. I think I must have put up a couple dozen games on this last night. And have I mentioned the stunning art package?

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...just gorgeous.
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Needless to say, I'm pretty enamored.

#72 8 months ago
Quoted from RyanClaytor:

Hi Klokkie,
Nice find with that Screwball. There's a guy on Facebook (Tom Considine...look in the group "Woodrail pinball machines, EM arcade games and little mechanical pins"), who recently restored one. Perhaps he'll be of some help to you.
Good luck with the restore!
-Ryan

Thank you Ryan.

I do know Tom from FB and we discussed already a lot about the Genco. He is a real crafstmen and helped me out a lot already.

Very nice EM you have, really looking good.

Hans

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#73 6 months ago

Hi folks. Here’s a 1948 Genco Screwball that a friend & I restored this year. The game was pretty much complete when found. The main exception being the backglass – totally repainted by hand.
The cabinet was in pretty good shape, likewise the playfield. But considerable fading to the playfield ink; all the original orange ink has all gone off-white, and the yellow’s gone a bit orange.
Really innovative game design – no score motor, instead what are usually score motor functions are distributed to small steppers. And no pop bumpers…
We replaced the selenium rectifier with a modern bridge rectifier, which resulted in a lot more pop to the flippers & kickout holes. We had persistent power loss and game lockup problems, which turned out to be mainly caused by bad jones connectors.
Did a repro backglass to replace the hand-painted one: multi-layer direct print to plexiglass using large format digital printer. Slightly re-themed to replace the clown with a ‘screwball blonde’. Also repro’d the apron card, score card and paper credit reel strip.
We’ll be taking the game to show/sell at the York PA White Rose Pinball Show in October.

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#74 6 months ago

Great work (as always!). Can't wait to play it this October - see you there!

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#75 6 months ago

Here’s another Genco in my collection, a 1948 Floating Power. A friend found it, apparently home-kept for many years. It was pretty much complete when found, including all the big playfield lamp/switch covers. The playfield was dirty but in good shape, likewise the cabinet. Inside, we replaced the selenium rectifier with a modern bridge rectifier (leaving the old one intact on the game). Two fuse-holders that were running very, very hot (120F+) were also replaced, which resolved the issue. There were a couple of functional issues to be worked out – which meant a lot of time wire tracing since no schematic available - but it’s up & running well now.

This game was produced only a few months after Screwball, but it’s a lot more advanced. For one thing, it actually has a score motor, as well as the funky steppers seen in Screwball. And some other neat mechanisms, like the double bell and backbox knocker that activate for each step of the bonus. Like Screwball, it’s helpful that Genco screen-printed the underside of the playfield with labels for all mechanisms.

The backglass had considerable flaking, so I replaced it with a repro, printed multi-layer on large format digital printer direct to plexiglass. Since the original glass was silvered, I had to manually do all the silvering with a paint pen. I also repro’d the paper credit reel, apron card and score card.

A very fun-playing game.

The last pic shows the three Genco’s currently in the collection – ’48 Floating Power, ’50 South Pacific (with R-rated re-themed backglass) and ’48 Screwball.

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#76 6 months ago

I love that backglass!!

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#77 4 months ago

Hi,
A friend of mine in France has a 1949 Black Gold Genco he wants to restore. The Backglass and playfield are in a pretty good shape.
Unfortunately, some parts are missing inside the backbox.

The best would be to get good quality pictures of a Black Gold backbox so he can identify the missing parts.
Pictures of a same era Genco pinball could also help.

And as soon as these parts are identified, he will of course be looking for them...
Anyone of the Genco Owners Club can help him ?
Thanks
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#78 4 months ago

Your best bet would probably be talking to Steve Young at Pbresource, there's a few pics on IPDB also.
Good Luck

#79 4 months ago
Quoted from poppapin:

Your best bet would probably be talking to Steve Young at Pbresource, there's a few pics on IPDB also.
Good Luck

Thanks Poppapin for your answer.

Quoted from jcg9998:

I have a parts machine rip snorter that I'd love to get rid of for free......I'll ship you parts if you pay for postage. I live in South Florida. There is stuff missing from it. You can see pictures at http://www.pinballowners.com/jcg9998. If you can pick it up, you can have it.

Hi jcg9998,
Do you still have parts from your Rip Snorter available ?
My friend may be interested...

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#80 86 days ago

I have a 1941 Argentine and I need bumper assemblies and playfield posts. Any help would be great, thanks.

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#81 75 days ago

1940 'Big Chief' that I picked up today. Complete, not hacked. Lots of dry rotted wires (mostly coil wires). Bargain price of $100. Florida heat took its' toll, but I'll bring her back.

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#82 74 days ago
Quoted from Mpellicano:

1940 'Big Chief' that I picked up today. Complete, not hacked. Lots of dry rotted wires (mostly coil wires). Bargain price of $100. Florida heat took its' toll, but I'll bring her back.
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Post some "after" pictures... nice machine!

#83 74 days ago

My second Genco followed home this weekend-- a 1934 Criss-Cross-A-Light. It looked pretty bad at first, but really cleaned up nicely. A few hours of tinkering, and I have it running. Just need to find a shooter assembly.

#84 74 days ago
Quoted from Sheprd:

Post some "after" pictures... nice machine!

Thank you. It's my Thanksgiving week project. I need an elevator rod, lockdown bar, and backbox cover.

#85 74 days ago
Quoted from Sheprd:

Post some "after" pictures... nice machine!

Playfield cleaned up well.

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#86 70 days ago
Quoted from Mpellicano:

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Very nice indeed!

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#87 63 days ago

I am looking for the little gate that stops the ball from reentering the shooter lane. The bracket is there, but nothing else.

#88 58 days ago
Quoted from Mpellicano:

I am looking for the little gate that stops the ball from reentering the shooter lane. The bracket is there, but nothing else.

You are probably going to have to "make" that part. Not hard. See: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/what-kind-of-metal-for-making-a-wire-gate

Mac

#89 57 days ago

I'm going to start restoring a 'Big Chief'. I want to address the coin door, since the coil has broken coil wires. The switch near the long extension on the coin mech looks like it is not open/closed with anything. I need a picture of the set up. Also, can I replace the coil, or does it need to be sent out and rewound?

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#90 53 days ago

Settle this debate; my brother says that exposed coil wires pose no threat of shorting....I disagree. But, with my very limited knowledge of coils in this condition, I pose this question to the forum. Disregard the heat shrink tubing; too many exposed wires to address the issue using them. I feel that new coils are required. Your thoughts?

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#91 51 days ago
Quoted from Mpellicano:

Settle this debate; my brother says that exposed coil wires pose no threat of shorting....I disagree. But, with my very limited knowledge of coils in this condition, I pose this question to the forum. Disregard the heat shrink tubing; too many exposed wires to address the issue using them. I feel that new coils are required. Your thoughts?
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The wires in the coils that look "exposed" are actually coated with a thin insulation. If they were not, they would all short together and not act like a coil. The paper wrapper provides minimal resistance to something scratching the insulation on the fine wires. It is mainly there for identification and cosmetic reasons. That said, I would just make new wrappers and put them over what is there instead of buying new coils. If a coil looks like it has over heated, then that is a sign that it may have developed an internal short, and should probably be replaced.

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#92 12 days ago

Hi Genco guys, I'm looking for an instructions card (or a scan or picture of one) for my 1940 Big League. Or any type of documentation, really.

It's quite a longshot since I haven't seen or heard of another example of this game in almost 10 years of owning it. But it can't hurt to try, right? If you have something, please let me know!
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#93 10 days ago
Quoted from Jappie:

Hi Genco guys, I'm looking for an instructions card (or a scan or picture of one) for my 1940 Big League. Or any type of documentation, really.
It's quite a longshot since I haven't seen or heard of another example of this game in almost 10 years of owning it. But it can't hurt to try, right? If you have something, please let me know!
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That is a very nice machine. Have you looked up the US patent on it? Patent #: US002134185

Mac

#94 9 days ago
Quoted from Sheprd:

That is a very nice machine. Have you looked up the US patent on it? Patent #: US002134185
Mac

I hadn't, but I have now. Thanks! Very cool to see this generation of Genco's features described and drawn out. This is going on the wall next to my Big League!

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#95 5 days ago

I have a Genco Captain Kidd and Need please some detail pictures of the inside of the head to help in the rewiring and restoration of the machine can anyone help????

#96 4 days ago
Quoted from BWHenson:

I have a Genco Captain Kidd and Need please some detail pictures of the inside of the head to help in the rewiring and restoration of the machine can anyone help????

Disclaimer: This is in as received condition. I have never tested. Hope these pictures help. Where are you located?

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#97 4 days ago

Thanks for sending me the text....I'm in Rockford Illinois.... How about you??? Do you have any more pics of your C/K and do you wanna sell it???

#98 2 days ago

I hope that you were able to receive my response to your question I'm not sure if I am using the right way to get back to you

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