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Gameseum Gaming Gala - Sept. 15

By emkay

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    #464 4 years ago

    Wow...not sure how I missed this thread all this time! Just found it today.

    So my buddy and I went to Gameseum on Saturday. Boy was it depressing! There were games all over the place that had "restoration in process" signs on them, a lot of the arcade games didn't have credits on them with signs stating "ask to have credits added", and the quality of the majority of the games was poor (as others have mentioned, trash games). I didn't know there was such a history with the owner and honestly had not been paying too much attention to any of the news articles or videos. Just wanted to check out the new local arcade.

    My buddy is obsessed with Donkey Kong, and was looking forward to playing it based on a photo he had seen. The game was not there. When my buddy asked the owner where it was, he said it was down and made some comment about how finicky the game is (or something like that). My buddy owns a Donkey Kong and I could tell he thought that was odd.

    The owner was pretty much just sitting around doing nothing, and I thought "shouldn't he be using his time restoring all of these machines?!".

    We spent close to one hour there, and it was such a LONG hour! I was so bored. We were so disappointed we hopped in the car and drove to Pinball Gallery (which I embarrassingly had never been too) and had an AWESOME time! I will definitely be going back there again!

    Sorry, didn't take any pictures, and I doubt I will ever go back

    #471 4 years ago

    I wish for him to succeed, but after following it up with Pinball Gallery (which is cheaper and in a whole other league) I don't think he has much of a chance as-is. At least most of the arcade games that were turned on were working (with only one or two that I tried to play having issues) - but I honestly didn't play a bunch of the games because I didn't feel like asking for credits. Since I am not a real big EM guy, I only played a handful of the EM pins. The one had a flipper that had no strength. Of the only two working non-EM games: F14 TomCat played well, and Comet was meh. Most of the games were cosmetically not good.

    The layout was decent, but could be better. Again, there is a lot of unused space, and space being taken up by games "currently being restored".

    #598 4 years ago

    Apparently he hasn't heard 32 inch screens aren't that big anymore...

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    #800 4 years ago

    Pinball gallery has better arcades and tons more pinball (of course), and it's only 60 minutes from gameseum.

    #971 4 years ago

    My buddy and I were two of the $10 customers. One hour there was more than enough time for me. We won't be going back anytime soon either - I imagine that will be the case for many of the 1,866.

    #1036 4 years ago
    Quoted from ZNET:

    The Silverball Museum on the Asbury Park, NJ boardwalk is phenomenal. They've got an incredibly diverse selection of pinball, arcade and video games, including uber rare vintage titles like Gottlieb TKO, Gottlieb EM Joker Poker, Gottlieb Challenger (head-to-head 2 player), United Deluxe Star Super Slugger pitch & bat, Kasco Ninja Gun arcade, and rare modern titles such as Stern Beatles (Diamond edition, only 100 made, $20K - $25K game).
    Classics in the line-up include everthing from Midway Flying Turns to Bally Medusa to Williams Banzai Run to Bally Twilight Zone. There's probably an Earthshaker there, as well. . .not sure.
    They have classic EM rifle games, bubble hockey and a photo booth. Prefer newer games? Then, play Dialed In, Wizard of Oz or a modern Stern, which are all there (although the owner rotates games with his Florida location).
    Silverball has several skeeball, shuffle alley and other more prototypical games as well. There's a good snack bar, an Elvis statue and a crazy lovebird arcade seat with a steering wheel.
    From what I gather, it appears that Marcade is also fashioning itself as a diverse, professional business operation, also in NJ. It would behoove any arcade operator, especially Gameseum, to take cues from the Silverball Museum about how to successfully create and operate an arcade, in my view.
    Now that I've posted these photos, I can't wait to return to Silverball!

    Nice photoshopped images. These have to be fake since there is nowhere in the world that is better than Gameseum.

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    #1282 4 years ago
    Quoted from emkay:

    Hahaha It was a little dicey in the 90's but nowadays is pretty tame. Gunter is a helluva cook and his son in law Brandon was one of my boys back in the day, aka DJ Sensei.
    The Shamrock is far more dangerous with the hookers & crack dealers, and somebody got shot dead on the front stoop of O'Halloran's last year.

    I was just in the Shamrock a week ago! It was actually pretty fun and a good crowd... But ya never know there. Love my Lancaster dives!

    #1286 4 years ago
    Quoted from emkay:

    Yeah, I love 'em too. Even the ones from days gone by like Manor Tavern, the Wonder Bar, Jamie's Place, Caribbean Breeze... Miguel's! I was never a big fan of the Blue Star but they had their moments.
    Used to drink in the Sundown Lounge underage. They had a Tommy pin back then.

    Sundown usually has a Stern machine there these days... Last time I was there it was Metallica.

    #1289 4 years ago
    Quoted from JodyG:

    What pin do they have in there these days? Last I heard, it was SW.

    Sorry - somehow missed seeing this post. There was no pin there...

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    #1703 3 years ago

    Guess the fundraiser the local business did for him wasn't enough to supplement the tons of money he made and saved to prepare for the pandemic.

    https://www.gofundme.com/f/ephrata-gameseum

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    #1776 3 years ago

    WTF. Why not just sell the stuff from the bulk buy, and be self sustaining for a year. What a freeloading mooch.

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    #1878 3 years ago

    F'ing A, did he need to write a novel to his clientele about his decision regarding masks? I barely made it through the first paragraph.

    Posted today on Facebook:

    "Hey guys! Just wanted to get this out of the way... it sure is a way trickier one than anybody could have imagined... more tricky than it needs to be, but alas...

    Following most other small businesses in the area who either have an optional policy set in stone, or a requirement policy that is silently not being enforced, we will be RECOMMENDING masks, but we will not be requiring them. We stand behind fellow businesses requiring masks, and those just recommending them like us, alike. Our staff will be wearing masks, and our best sanitation efforts will be in place of course. (That's a different post)

    Unfortunately we are in a tough spot with this, and we never thought masks would be such a controversial topic. We're human, and like you, we're probably wondering if these masks
    are really worth it like everybody else... but we also have no problem just wearing one because it's easy and may help somebody else besides us. We're in the middle.
    Apparently many people do not feel so non-chalant about it one way or another, and we also recognize this. Our staff and close friends here stray over all political parties, and needless to say we're overwhelmingly ALL upset and somewhat disgusted with certain people in our OWN political parties... while most people are being wonderful as always, certain people are seemingly becoming very rash and unhumanlike about this in both directions, even in our local area.

    A fellow Ephrata business owner who has been open for the last few weeks reached out to me, very upset and anxious, as a warning. Needless to say her warning and experience made me feel much disdain to BOTH political parties and was a grim reminder of how awful SOME people can be, regardless of affilitation or beliefs. She has been insulted, screamed at, and even threatened... by people of of all views... right here in our local Ephrata area. She is also doing a "recommend but not require" policy. Even with this neutral, light, and forgiving policy compared to others, she has people yelling in her face for "daring questioning their constitutional rights by recommending they wear a mask" by even just recommending they wear one (which isn't a violation of your rights), and the other side of "how dare you not somehow force all these people to not wear masks, you are a terrible person and a terrible business owner". (We can't really force people to do anything) Some people on both sides of the issue are going off the rails and becoming unhumanlike to this poor business owner who is trying her best. Somebody even tried to pick a physical fight... right here in Ephrata. And then there's those people that are just doing what they feel is best and keeping their cool about it, and understand people are going to do what they're going to do regardless of what us business owners say (thank you to those people for understanding).

    In our shoes, us small business owners have 3 options:

    We have option A, which is require masks 100%, which will make about 50% of people very upset and cause a lot of confrontations especially with the majority opinion in our Central PA area seeming to have some sort of disdain towards masks.

    We have option B, which is to let it be a free for all with no safety precautions, which will make the other 50% of people upset, and isn't something we want to do.

    We have have option C, which is leave it up to you and recommend mask use, wear masks ourselves, and do our best to be safe. Additionally, we also can't be certain wearing a mask for hours at a time is good for you either, so we want customers to be able to take breaks if need be on their own regard for themselves. Option C will be fine for 90% of people,
    but still seemingly drastically upset the top 5% "most vocal" of each opposing group mentioned above for drastically different reasons. "How dare you recommend I wear a mask" vs. "How dare you not require masks"

    As you can see, there is no perfect option. Nor is there any inkling of an option D, or E, or F, so on and so forth. So we're going with Option C.

    Heck, even with politics, personal views, and comfort aside, we also realize wearing a mask for several hours during a Gameseum visit, health-wise, is like apples to oranges of visiting the grocery store for 15 minutes, and cannot in good faith recommend wearing a mask for hours at a time during your visit either... we feel left in the dark about this issue by the health authorities, and have no knowledge on if wearing a mask with an all-day pass is actually better or worse for your health with all the oxygen concerns, so it is up to you and your discretion. We're not doctors. There's so many variables here to consider, to the point of where Option C is the only realistic option in any form, even with social opinion concerns aside. "Do you", at your own risk. You know what is best for you.

    Needless to say, we also certainly welcome those who do not feel it is safe, to stay home until you feel it is safe and comfortable to visit. Our heart goes out to those who are vulnerable to COVID-19 more than others, and certainly don't recommend you stop by until it is safe for you to start heading out of the house - I don't imagine you would right now anyways, masks all around or not. Your health is more important to us than anything, and certainly want to make that clear... if you're vulnerable, whether we 100% required masks or not, I can't imagine you will be visiting quite yet... and that's fine, and we love ya!

    At the same time in the other direction, if you somehow get vocally upset about a sign on the door just RECOMMENDING a mask - not even requiring one - you're welcome to your opinion too, and can come back later all the same. We're not forcing anybody to do anything, whatsoever.

    Again, we are in awe of how some people of either political parties and views surrounding this issue have become. Unhumanlike. Having an opinion is fine, but we will say if your beliefs over masks or lack thereof, one way or another, cause you to become confrontational, rude, unhumanlike, threatening, and condescending towards staff members of businesses including ours, just don't come here. We do respect anybody's right to disagree, or even quietly exit, and we sadly expect to see some of that until this all passes us by - despite wishing there was a perfect option. At the same time, we don't have time to deal with grown adults causing a scene or insulting our staff members or other customers. We will not tolerate anybody insulting or berating another customer for wearing a mask nor not wearing one. We are between a rock and a hard place, in addition to being shutdown for months... we are doing our best to please everybody. We have had staff members out of work for months looking forward to getting back to work and everybody having a fun, safe time here, and helping others do the same. There is having an opinion quietly and choosing when you wish to visit, and then there is being a jerk and causing problems - a thing that seems to span all political parties and beliefs. It is disappointing that even when our fellow business owner friend is just RECOMMENDING masks, that she is still being yelled at and literally physically confronted by people of both sides - even when not forcing anybody to choose one way or another. Where did the humanity go?

    None of this can be pinned on business owners... We are not the ones requiring masks in businesses (but are being threatened with large penalties for not doing so, but people don't seem to remember that part), nor are we the ones recommending people not to wear masks... point those comments to their appropriate directions... we are
    just here to run an arcade. We are not people police one way or another, and refuse to be put in that position... it's just not our place, it's not our job, nor what we want to do. We will be leaving what each person wants to wear up to that person. Safety is our #1 priority, but considering people are becoming violent towards other local business owners, and long-term use of masks is questionable itself at best, we feel it is best to just do what we can to encourage, but not require, mask use. Being neutral is really the only way for us to go on this, for both social and health reasons. We also recognize regardless of our stance on masks, those at risk will thankfully not be visiting the arcade until the world is 100% safe, which helps make this decision easier for us. If we were an essential business that people of these concerns were visiting, we would take a stronger stance, but we're sure those vulnerable will already stay away from me for now regardless if we required masks or not.

    I personally have been at least questioning certain areas of mask use like I'm sure we all have, but I also respect any business that asks me to wear one by just doing so without feeling offended... I guess I'm a rare political mish-mosh or just apolitical on the whole thing. Even if I think masks are questionable (which may or may not be true), I also don't have a problem one just wearing one if asked... works great at best, couldn't hurt at worst... that's just me... I'm super neutral... but I know some people feel differently... and apparently the issue is not so cut-and-dry to some, so you are welcome to do as you please. We do ask if you are medically able to, please wear a mask, or at the very least, just be a kind human being to our staff and fellow customers regardless if you are wearing one or not. Kindness is not political. It is universal. The majority are being decent people as usual, but the horror stories I'm hearing are deeply saddening... and again, span all political views. This has ALWAYS been a fun place free of arguments or trouble as soon as you walk in these doors... an escape from the world's problems for many, long before these particular issues... please help us keep it that way. We hope to see you July 3rd, and if not, we hope to see you as soon as you're ready.

    Keep the comments civil towards each other.

    Thank you."

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    #1951 3 years ago

    Break even in minutes?!?

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    #1952 3 years ago

    Let's say an average game lasts two minutes. At 25 cents a game, it would take 3.33 hours to break even.

    #2056 3 years ago
    Quoted from Otaku:

    Unfortunately I just did a giant bulk buy the week before that or I would've been (overkill) good for a whole year with no money coming in if needed

    I still don't understand - you bragged about how you had enough money saved to make it through a year without being opened (if it came to that)...but you recently made a large bulk buy. So rather than mooch off of people, why not sell stuff you bought and make it on your own?

    #2144 3 years ago

    I'd still like my question answered. You had enough money to last you a year (at least). Then you made a bulk purchase. Usually when you make a bulk purchase, you are getting stuff at a discount. Why not sell some stuff off from the bulk purchase and stand on your own, versus mooching off of others via another GoFundMe?

    #2146 3 years ago
    Quoted from JodyG:

    You know...I dont think anyone, myself included, really want to see you fail. If that was the case, this thread would have died a long time ago. When people bust your balls about being obnoxious and addicted to exaggerating everything you say, its because we are trying to help you understand that you could be so much better if you just cut it out and stopped trying to be such a bullshit merchant. You could build a lot of local pinside pinhead goodwill if you stopped trying to word everything like used car salesman. Show some genuine humility and willingness to learn. Realize you may not know everything, and asking for help or clarification isn't a sign of weakness.
    Be honest with people. Stop exaggerating everything you say. Stop the constant hyperbole. You might find that kind of thing goes a long way toward reaching you goals faster and building your dream.
    Or just ignore this and keep being a dickhead.

    This is a near perfect encapsulation of this entire thread. I want to see him succeed as well, but he makes it so hard to like him or root for him.

    #2169 3 years ago

    There should be enough mooch money to buy Randy a new Escalera.

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    #2785 3 years ago
    Quoted from Otaku:

    People are slowly coming back out though. Every day seems to be earning more than the last, and things are slowly going back to normal (at least in the minds of Pennsylvanians) so hopefully soon I'll be able to increase my payments, or just buy him one. It'll take a while, but I have no problem with starting.

    Quoted from Otaku:

    Honestly, I'd love to just buy you a new one of the same model, and you can trade me the old one if you like and skip all the other stuff... but it's going to be a while before I see that kind of money all at once. But that's what I was hoping to do.
    Steven

    Yeah - last I knew Steven was going to either buy a whole new one, or pay in increments until he repaid the debt for a new one. Nice "upgrade" to parts that have to be installed on a used one.

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    #3572 3 years ago

    There was a new post on Facebook today about new games/pins that were just added or in the pipeline. I find it interesting that he didn't have the money available to buy Randy a new Escalera, but seems to have money to keep buying games. What a shyster.

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