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Gameroom remodeling


By f3honda4me

9 months ago



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    #1 9 months ago

    We have decided to remodel half of our basement a bit in order to create a more useful space. The people who owned the home before us finished the basement. But I will use that term "finished" loosely. In previous projects we have found that there was a fair number of things not quite to code, even though the basement has full permits and passed all inspections. Just goes to show that inspections and permits sometimes mean nothing lol. There were very obvious code violations that were signed off on (not done after the fact) so I can only imagine what we may find in doing this remodel.

    Here is a picture of the area we are focusing on. The previous owners made a "crappy" bar to show off the home and make the basement look more finished. This "bar" is nothing but some 2x4 with some quick drywall, some trim, and the countertop is actually just plywood. They painted it all brown. The flooring is laminate cheap junk.

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    #2 9 months ago

    The end goal here is that we will remove the bar entirely, remove the cheap flooring, and put down a nicer solid wood flooring. The "alcove" where the bar was will be where pinball machines go. I can fit 4 in there against the wall. I can fit a 5th in the office area and a 6th if need be on the other side of the alcove, along the wall.

    In addition, we are going to take the wall where our POTC sits and open a hole, and install a bar countertop. The backside of that room will get cabinets installed and that backside room will become storage and holding area for food, alcohol, etc things for entertaining and parties.

    #3 9 months ago

    That doesn’t look too bad - but it certainly looks better from afar than what you’re describing. Good luck! What are you thinking ?

    #4 9 months ago

    Here is the POTC wall I'm referring to, and the backside "room".

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    #5 9 months ago

    I tore off the countertop from the bar and as expected, code violation. They had an outlet completely drywalled inside and hidden, and lights that we thought were hard wired to a switch were actually plugged into the outlet and the outlet was on a switch.

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    #6 9 months ago

    Progress! I plan to tear out the rest of the bar this weekend and start working on the wood flooring.

    Half of the outlets in the bar area alcove don't work, so that will be a fun side project this weekend to find out why as well.

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    #7 9 months ago

    Ok first off wow I wish my basement looked like that lol. But totally understand making it Your own space and what a great space you have to work with so many possibilities. Never fully understood the bar thing but everyone has their own perspective on entertaining. Good luck with your project and consider taking a look at the Game Room thread. So many great ideas in that thread several of which I copied myself.

    #8 9 months ago
    Quoted from Yelobird:

    Never fully understood the bar thing but everyone has their own perspective on entertaining.

    I have to agree, I have a cocktail table set up and people rarely even use that-might have to ditch it soon to make space for another pin. May try just putting a bunch of pin-gulps on machines and have a small fridge?

    #9 9 months ago
    Quoted from f3honda4me:

    I tore off the countertop from the bar and as expected, code violation. They had an outlet completely drywalled inside and hidden, and lights that we thought were hard wired to a switch were actually plugged into the outlet and the outlet was on a switch.[quoted image]

    Seriously? Holy shit. I can't believe people do stuff like that.

    Well, at least they put an outlet cover on it.

    I'm looking forward to this thread. They are my favorite. Unfortunately mine has stalled for awhile due to my bank account being on strike.

    #10 9 months ago

    We want to have the bar area since it serves as a place for people to set drinks or for us to set out snacks/food etc. It also helps tie the one half of the finished basement to the other half by setting it up on the wall I mentioned. This way we can have guests over and do all the entertaining downstairs. We would have food, drinks, etc all there and then the game room area plus the pool table area and the TV/videogame area.

    Here is a pic of the "other half" of our finished basement.

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    #11 9 months ago

    Very nice. Good start. When you are done you will be filling it with pins. . I am now out of room
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    #12 9 months ago

    We finished our basement two years ago and put in a rather large bar. Whenever we have guests it gets a LOT of use. Usually all the men hang out around it and partake in the many bottles of booze on display. I think it all comes down to how you set it up, if it is sterile and not utilitarian (like to one OP is removing) then it will not get much use at all. On the other hand if it is located in a practical space in the room, decorated properly, and set up as an actual bar (booze on display, glasses readily available, bartending equipment) it will get used.

    #13 9 months ago

    Picked out and picked up the flooring. 170sq ft so needed 7 boxes. Might get away with 6 and able to return one but we shall see. Also picked up a "bagster" bag portable "dumpster". It's basically a 3 CU yard dumpster that gets picked up. Should be more than enough for our project.

    Pic below of the new wood flooring sitting on top of the old wood flooring. Went with a light gray color as we liked how it flowed with the carpet.

    We went with engineered hardwood since it is ideal for a floating install over basement concrete to hold up to temp/moisture, but can be refinished. Way nicer than the laminate installed right now.
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    #14 9 months ago
    Quoted from f3honda4me:

    Picked out and picked up the flooring. 170sq ft so needed 7 boxes. Might get away with 6 and able to return one but we shall see. Also picked up a "bagster" bag portable "dumpster". It's basically a 3 CU yard dumpster that gets picked up. Should be more than enough for our project.
    Pic below of the new wood flooring sitting on top of the old wood flooring. Went with a light gray color as we liked how it flowed with the carpet.
    We went with engineered hardwood since it is ideal for a floating install over basement concrete to hold up to temp/moisture, but can be refinished. Way nicer than the laminate installed right now.
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    Great choice. The click & lock stuff is super easy to install too. Bagster is incredible how mucb that thing can hold. I have thrown away entire exterior walls in those things

    #15 9 months ago

    The stupidity continues - the wiring they ran for the outlets was stapled to the framing using metal staples that are too small to use for that width of wire, and many of the metal staples went through the insulation and inner insulation of the wires and was in contact with the metal wires! Scary!

    #16 9 months ago
    Quoted from f3honda4me:

    The stupidity continues - the wiring they ran for the outlets was stapled to the framing using metal staples that are too small to use for that width of wire, and many of the metal staples went through the insulation and inner insulation of the wires and was in contact with the metal wires! Scary!

    At least you found it!

    #17 9 months ago

    Re wires, hopefully remainder of house was done properly

    #18 9 months ago
    Quoted from PinPatch:

    Re wires, hopefully remainder of house was done properly

    The good news is, the rest of the house was not built by the previous owners. Only the finished basement. And in the unfinished areas I can see that the same nonsense with electrical was not done. I'm guessing the bar was their own DIY hack job.

    I spent $300 today on a reciprocating sawzall (well, the dewalt version) with 20v/60v etc. We have always had to borrow one before and this time the wife decided she'd rather we just finally buy one. My wife does a lot of wood working stuff actually, so she's the boss there!

    #19 9 months ago
    Quoted from f3honda4me:

    I tore off the countertop from the bar and as expected, code violation. They had an outlet completely drywalled inside and hidden, and lights that we thought were hard wired to a switch were actually plugged into the outlet and the outlet was on a switch.[quoted image]

    Why are you so concerned about code violations? Sometimes there are safety issues, I get that. Just curious where you're coming from.

    #20 9 months ago
    Quoted from NorCalRealtor:

    Why are you so concerned about code violations? Sometimes there are safety issues, I get that. Just curious where you're coming from.

    I don't care about code violations, I care about safety. I guess I should say "safety issue" instead of code violation as that's really what I'm talking about. There is a lot of nonsense in codes these days that wouldn't matter a bit when it comes to actual safety. Sorry, it's just from years of brainwashing that "code" is "for everyone's safety" when that's really a crock of you know what. haha

    #21 9 months ago

    Demo under way!

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    #22 9 months ago

    Wife doing some work

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    #23 9 months ago

    Off to get paint

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    #24 9 months ago

    Paint done. New underlay done.

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    #25 9 months ago

    That poor bar, was actually nice it was outside of the room bc people could get away from the clanking and banging of the machines if they wanted to talk. You'll need some sort of space for people to congregate.

    #26 9 months ago
    Quoted from Djshakes:

    That poor bar, was actually nice it was outside of the room bc people could get away from the clanking and banging of the machines if they wanted to talk. You'll need some sort of space for people to congregate.

    That bar wasn’t really a bar. It was painted brown plywood on some studs and cracking drywall. It was a hack job to try and sell the house when previous owners had it. It also was in the same area as my pins. So it wasn’t a noise escape. By moving the pins to the alcove we will have them away from the other half of the basement to create that escape.

    #27 9 months ago

    Progress

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    #28 9 months ago
    Quoted from f3honda4me:

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    Nice job having your wife lay flooring while you take pictures....lol

    Looks good, I love tongue and groove in the basement, its like throwing together the worlds easisest puzzle.

    #29 9 months ago
    Quoted from ralphwiggum:

    Nice job having your wife lay flooring while you take pictures....lol
    Looks good, I love tongue and groove in the basement, its like throwing together the worlds easisest puzzle.

    Yea the tongue and groove floating install is definitely the way to go! And my wife is pretty badass like that. Very handy.

    #30 9 months ago

    Getting close

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    #31 9 months ago

    Why not ditch the carpet and have the whole floor match?

    #32 9 months ago

    This is probably a dumb question, but what exactly does the tape do when putting down a tongue and groove floor?

    #33 9 months ago
    Quoted from Jenniebear:

    Why not ditch the carpet and have the whole floor match?

    No desire to do that much flooring right now lol.

    Quoted from shirkle:

    This is probably a dumb question, but what exactly does the tape do when putting down a tongue and groove floor?

    We are using tongue and groove glue so the tape just is an added precaution to help it set.

    #34 9 months ago
    Quoted from f3honda4me:

    Paint done. New underlay done. [quoted image]

    nice project- like the flooring. I guess no concerns with moisture or is that some sort of special underlay?

    #35 9 months ago
    Quoted from zpinman370:

    nice project- like the flooring. I guess no concerns with moisture or is that some sort of special underlay?

    It’s a 3 in 1 underlay. Moisture barrier. Plus engineered hardwood flooring is more resilient to moisture and temp changes on concrete floor.

    #37 9 months ago
    Quoted from Daditude:

    Looks pretty good to me!

    Thanks! On the last pieces now. Then done for the day. Tomorrow we will do the trim and then start planning out the pass through bar part.

    I have a GotG premium coming Tuesday but my escalera isn’t here yet so not sure how I’m getting it downstairs lol. But once it gets here I’ll move all 3 pins to their new home in the alcove.

    #38 9 months ago

    Almost done.

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    #39 9 months ago

    Love it when the wife pitch's in too. That's always a big help, except for when they start saying well we could do this Looking good!
    Sure enough, once we finished the garage with heat and ac, for the work shop, she wanted to change it to the game room! Had to sleep in the dog house for a couple nights. But she eventually got over it!

    #40 9 months ago

    Done! Next up, move pins plus get GOTG pin down here somehow.

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    #41 9 months ago

    Nice start to your collection with the three you have now.

    #42 9 months ago
    Quoted from drummermike:

    Nice start to your collection with the three you have now.

    Picking up Star Trek premium VE at MGC in April. Also plan to buy WOZ once I know when it will be available again.

    #43 9 months ago
    Quoted from f3honda4me:

    Picking up Star Trek premium VE at MGC in April. Also plan to buy WOZ once I know when it will be available again.

    Nice. I have had some intense games on my ST! You will have fun with both of them.

    #44 9 months ago
    Quoted from drummermike:

    Nice. I have had some intense games on my ST! You will have fun with both of them.

    Yea we played both on location quite a bit and really like both.

    #45 9 months ago

    Discussing options for the back room and pass through bar area. The wife wants a sink installed, however, plumbing that would be I think impossible since there is no rough in for drain, and access to hot water pipes is of course on the opposite side of the finished basement from where the sink would be. I'm thinking there is no way to do this without a LOT of work and cost.

    #46 9 months ago

    Is there any way you can tap into the main drain stack for the house?

    #47 9 months ago
    Quoted from Spyderturbo007:

    Is there any way you can tap into the main drain stack for the house?

    Yes, but it's in the 1st floor joists (ceiling of the basement). The house has septic, and all the drains run to the septic tanks. There is a lift pump for some things, but that crock and lift pump are the complete opposite corner of the house. In the unifinished area right next to the room there is a main drain that runs through the joists that could be tapped into, but it would require the drain water to be pumped up and into that pipe. The sump pump is right next to the bar room, so drain wise I actually think we can do grey water into the sump pump. I think the more difficult part is the hot water.

    #48 9 months ago
    Quoted from f3honda4me:

    Yes, but it's in the 1st floor joists (ceiling of the basement). The house has septic, and all the drains run to the septic tanks. There is a lift pump for some things, but that crock and lift pump are the complete opposite corner of the house. In the unifinished area right next to the room there is a main drain that runs through the joists that could be tapped into, but it would require the drain water to be pumped up and into that pipe. The sump pump is right next to the bar room, so drain wise I actually think we can do grey water into the sump pump. I think the more difficult part is the hot water.

    You could always consider a Sanflow system. Light duty for a sink and fairly low cost. I did this system in a previous house and it worked great. Basement is looking great and Wow impressed with the wife DIY. She is definitely a keeper.

    http://go.saniflo.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIj_eP1t7J4AIV8R-tBh1MBQ_-EAAYASAAEgLGXvD_BwE

    #49 9 months ago

    Great progress and I’ll second Saniflow. We use one in our basement with a sink.

    #50 9 months ago
    Quoted from Yelobird:

    You could always consider a Sanflow system. Light duty for a sink and fairly low cost. I did this system in a previous house and it worked great. Basement is looking great and Wow impressed with the wife DIY. She is definitely a keeper.
    http://go.saniflo.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIj_eP1t7J4AIV8R-tBh1MBQ_-EAAYASAAEgLGXvD_BwE

    That looks perfect for the draining! But it doesn't solve my hot water supply problem.

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