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GameRoom Ceiling Options


By Gritty

5 years ago



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    #1 5 years ago

    My basement Gameroom has a 7ft ceiling. I just removed a drop ceiling to gain about 6 inches. I was thinking about going with a snap in drop ceiling but can't decide if I want to go white or black. I heard that a black ceiling will give you the illusion of a taller space. Has anyone gone with a black ceiling? Any regrets?

    #2 5 years ago
    Quoted from Gritty:

    I was thinking about going with a snap in drop ceiling but can't decide if I want to go white or black.

    If you have standard wood joist system I would go NO drop cieling and paint ceiling black...done it twice and it's great.

    #3 5 years ago
    Quoted from TheLaw:

    If you have standard wood joist system I would go NO drop cieling and paint ceiling black...done it twice and it's great

    +1 on that. I will be doing the same thing myself. I've got 7' ceiling and thought about doing drop but I did not want to lose the height.

    #4 5 years ago

    Plus with the exposed rafters, it makes it easier to staple the bras to. (new female visitor initiation)?

    #5 5 years ago
    Quoted from z28dan:

    Plus with the exposed rafters, it makes it easier to staple the bras to. (new female visitor initiation)?

    Or run cables/wires, neon, more can lights, pull up bar?, speakers etc etc...

    Take a look OP...man I need to update that thread

    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/gameroom-coming-upongoing

    #6 5 years ago

    I agree. Paint it flat black, it will raise the ceiling.

    #7 5 years ago

    My gameroom is dropped and flat black. I was able to install at a 3in minimum clearance. I wanted to hide all the house wiring.

    I also used old playfields as ceiling tiles.
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    #8 5 years ago

    I thought about just painting the rafters but I need the sound barrier. I like the recessed blacklights.

    #9 5 years ago
    Quoted from Gritty:

    I thought about just painting the rafters but I need the sound barrier..

    What aboot rigid foam in the joists? Don't know how much sound dampening that has...but don;t know how much a drop does either.

    #10 5 years ago

    here is some pics of my ceiling as well ...the basement is still a work in progress but you get the idea of a black suspended ceiling surrounded by bulkheads with led lighting....there are 4 different sections but have 2 shown

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    #11 5 years ago

    I just stuffed soundproofing insulation (fiberglass batting) between the ceiling joists. It made a huge difference, you can only hear the pin noise coming from the furnace vents and stairwell. My 4yr old sleeps right above the machines.

    #12 5 years ago

    Paint it flat back.

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    #13 5 years ago

    WE just finished our 1700 sq foot basement, sprayed the ceiling flat black. $300 total, including the $99 sprayer rental. Everyone comments on it. It looks great. Wiring/ductwork etc just disappIMG_20140810_201619_328.jpgears. IMG_20140810_201810_239.jpg

    #14 5 years ago

    I'd fully recommend a dark and non-reflective ceiling with the pins below.
    ~Steveo

    #15 5 years ago

    Kinda before and after......the white crown molding really sets it off.

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    #16 5 years ago

    Don's arcade is real nice. I wish I would've talked to him about his ceiling before I did mine with a roller!

    #17 5 years ago

    I went a different route.... I went metal flashing with random orbital....PDR_0195.JPGPDR_0338.JPG

    #18 5 years ago
    Quoted from huo:

    Don's arcade is real nice. I wish I would've talked to him about his ceiling before I did mine with a roller!

    You're young, my back couldn't have handled it, i HAD to think outside the box....lol.....

    #19 5 years ago
    Quoted from ralphwiggum:

    I went a different route.... I went metal flashing with random orbital....

    Thats sharp, I bet it looks cool with the game lights reflecting off it....

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    #20 5 years ago
    Quoted from pinzrfun:

    Thats sharp, I bet it looks cool with the game lights reflecting off it.

    Thanks, I have red led rope light and blacklights all the way around and the metal ceiling does a good job of spreading that light.

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    #21 5 years ago
    Quoted from ralphwiggum:

    I went a different route.... I went metal flashing with random orbital....

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    I really like the orbital sanding look on metal panels you did... nicely done!

    #22 5 years ago
    Quoted from pinzrfun:

    Kinda before and after......the white crown molding really sets it off.

    Crown molding is a great idea to offset the black and make the ceiling look even bigger! Going to have to do the same to my space once I get to finishing it.

    #23 5 years ago
    Quoted from supercombo:

    Crown molding is a great idea to offset the black and make the ceiling look even bigger! Going to have to do the same to my space once I get to finishing it.

    Paint the molding before you put it up. You dont want to be painting white against flat black, you will be touchingmit up forever.

    And no, I didnt do that.

    #24 5 years ago

    pinzrfun is that brick paneling or something, looks good.

    #25 5 years ago

    My gameroom ceiling option is... remove all toppers

    #26 5 years ago
    Quoted from TheLaw:

    Or run cables/wires, neon, more can lights, pull up bar?, speakers etc etc...
    Take a look OP...man I need to update that thread
    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/gameroom-coming-upongoing

    Last update 5 months....yes you do.

    #27 5 years ago

    Flat black

    #28 5 years ago

    My ceiling is exposed beams and walls are painted flat black with uv carpet on the floor. I also have lit and unlit playfields on the walls and the ceiling and a few game cab and backbox decals mounted on MetalMax on the walls and ceiling also. It looks like there is no wall behind the games when it's painted black and with a flouresent uv bulb under each game they look like they are floating on the uv carpet.

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    #29 5 years ago
    Quoted from Gritty:

    can't decide if I want to go white or black

    Careful...I hear if you pick one of those you can never go back

    #30 5 years ago
    Quoted from ktrain315:

    pinzrfun is that brick paneling or something, looks good.

    Yep, thats all it is, and thanks. There's actually finished/primed drywall behind it so when we sell we can remove the paneling and just paint it. Probably not everyone would want the brick. Works great for Pinball Alley though!
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    #31 5 years ago
    Quoted from pinzrfun:

    Kinda before and after......the white crown molding really sets it off.

    Did you paint the high-hats as well or did you mask them off? I was going to put a drop ceiling in but after seeing everyone's flat-black pics I really liking that look instead. I would also have to build a bunch of soffits for the drop ceiling so painting if black would save of bunch of time (and $$) as well.

    #32 5 years ago
    Quoted from MustangPaul:

    My ceiling is exposed beams and walls are painted flat black with uv carpet on the floor. I also have lit and unlit playfields on the walls and the ceiling and a few game cab and backbox decals mounted on MetalMax on the walls and ceiling also. It looks like there is no wall behind the games when it's painted black and with a flouresent uv bulb under each game they look like they are floating on the uv carpet.

    Who did you buy your carpet from and is it a roll or carpet tiles? I know Astro and Caldwell sell the Joy line of UV carpet tiles but looking for other possible options. Thanks

    #33 5 years ago
    Quoted from z28dan:

    Plus with the exposed rafters, it makes it easier to staple the bras to. (new female visitor initiation)?

    I was going to say something about insulation, but with enough Bras that could suffice.

    I have a problem at our house with noise transfering to sleeping family members, so i plan on insulating and covering the ceiling up soon.

    -c

    #34 5 years ago
    Quoted from mac622:

    Did you paint the high-hats as well or did you mask them off? I was going to put a drop ceiling in but after seeing everyone's flat-black pics I really liking that look instead. I would also have to build a bunch of soffits for the drop ceiling so painting if black would save of bunch of time (and $$) as well.

    By High-Hats do you mean the light fixtures? If so unless you're going with an even more industrial look with some matching colors elswhere, you should paint them with the ceiling...I've done it twice that way.

    Dude it's just so much easier and cheaper it's unreal. I bought a cheap paint sprayer, and went to the store and said "Give me the cheapest goddamn black paint you have." Takes a few days to paint it depending on size but whatever you do is going to take some time.
    Of course you also have to factor in if you're just doing the ceiling, you're going to have to cover up everything and be careful with the paint getting on things.

    #35 5 years ago

    Yes - high-hats are the fixtures. It makes sense to paint them too but wanted to hear what you guys have done.

    I'm assuming you guys are also using latex and not enamel or some other oil based paint - correct? I have both an HVLP gun and Graco True Coat sprayer and can spray either so it doesn't matter to me (although the cleanup and mess spraying enamel with the HVLP and would be much greater.)

    Thanks

    #36 5 years ago
    Quoted from mac622:

    Yes - high-hats are the fixtures. It makes sense to pain them too but wanted to hear what you guys have done.
    I'm assuming you guys are also using latex and not enamel or some other oil based paint - correct? I

    Yep flat black cheap latex. Had to dilute with water but it sounds like you know more than I with paint guns so that's probably obvious.

    #37 5 years ago
    Quoted from mac622:

    Yes - high-hats are the fixtures. It makes sense to paint them too but wanted to hear what you guys have done.
    I'm assuming you guys are also using latex and not enamel or some other oil based paint - correct? I have both an HVLP gun and Graco True Coat sprayer and can spray either so it doesn't matter to me (although the cleanup and mess spraying enamel with the HVLP and would be much greater.)
    Thanks

    Yes, I painted the fixtures also. I used Dryfall by Pittsburg Paints, its specifically made for commercial ceilings (restaurants, bars etc) and doesnt require thinning, its made to be sprayed. I didnt want to screw up thinning anything. This stuff turns to dust when it falls 9 feet or more and you just sweep it up, hence the name. My ceiling wasnt that tall so it did mist the floor but we were sealing and carpeting it anyways. $99 for 5 gal bucket, I used 1 3/4 buckets. Took 2 hours to spray 1700 sq ft. It covered great. Cant say enough good things about it. Best $300 I spent on the project.

    #38 5 years ago
    Quoted from pinzrfun:

    Yes, I painted the fixtures also. I used Dryfall by Pittsburg Paints, its specifically made for commercial ceilings (restaurants, bars etc) and doesnt require thinning, its made to be sprayed. I didnt want to screw up thinning anything. This stuff turns to dust when it falls 9 feet or more and you just sweep it up, hence the name. My ceiling wasnt that tall so it did mist the floor but we were sealing and carpeting it anyways. $99 for 5 gal bucket, I used 1 3/4 buckets. Took 2 hours to spray 1700 sq ft. It covered great. Cant say enough good things about it. Best $300 I spent on the project.

    $99 sprayer rental (Home Depot) and 2 5 gal buckets at $99 ea = $300.....to clarify....

    #39 5 years ago
    Quoted from mac622:

    Who did you buy your carpet from and is it a roll or carpet tiles? I know Astro and Caldwell sell the Joy line of UV carpet tiles but looking for other possible options. Thanks

    I got it from Capri Discount Flooring in Calhoun, GA. The pattern is "Under the Sea Flourescent" and the price was $19.99 sq yd. The colors are very bright and looks great under uv. If you can pick up at the freight company you'll save $100 for delivering to your house which is what I did. If the roll has ANY damage on it do not accept it. For padding I bought 3/8 inch memory foam padding, it's antimicrobal and acts as a vapor barrier and because it's memory foam not that cheap chip foam the pinball feet divit's raise right back up in a matter of minutes. I bought it at Menards when they had their 11% rebate sale. It's a firm padding but feels nice on bare feet and well worth the extra money.

    #40 5 years ago
    Quoted from mac622:

    I'm assuming you guys are also using latex

    Yes latex but you have to use a special primer first on your galvenized duct work or the latex will fall off after a couple years. Latex just will not stick to that stuff.

    #41 5 years ago
    Quoted from Fast-Ed:

    Paint it flat back.

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    Omg.....that is beyond cool....congrats to you sir. Blacklight carpet is fantastic

    #42 5 years ago

    Spray foam between joists, then paint black. This way you sound proof it a bit and keep maximum height. You can run cables etc below the foam before painting it all black. Foam will reduce echo in basement as well.

    #43 5 years ago

    I bought some customs suspended ceiling.

    Here's the link : http://www.ceilingsandwalls.com/?gclid=CKHMipmclsQCFQ6MaQodEqgAuA

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    This one as metallic finish

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    Also bought transparent tiles for fluorescent light

    #44 5 years ago
    Quoted from matt_assassin:

    I bought some customs suspended ceiling.
    Here's the link : http://www.ceilingsandwalls.com/?gclid=CKHMipmclsQCFQ6MaQodEqgAuA
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    Also bought transparent tiles for fluorescent light

    Those after pictures really look classy.

    #45 5 years ago
    Quoted from pinzrfun:

    Yes, I painted the fixtures also. I used Dryfall by Pittsburg Paints, its specifically made for commercial ceilings (restaurants, bars etc) and doesnt require thinning, its made to be sprayed. I didnt want to screw up thinning anything. This stuff turns to dust when it falls 9 feet or more and you just sweep it up, hence the name. My ceiling wasnt that tall so it did mist the floor but we were sealing and carpeting it anyways. $99 for 5 gal bucket, I used 1 3/4 buckets. Took 2 hours to spray 1700 sq ft. It covered great. Cant say enough good things about it. Best $300 I spent on the project.

    Very cool - thanks for info. I'll look into the Dryfall. I have 8' ceilings but will be sealing and carpeting as well no not overly concerned about it getting on the floor.

    #46 5 years ago
    Quoted from MustangPaul:

    Yes latex but you have to use a special primer first on your galvenized duct work or the latex will fall off after a couple years. Latex just will not stick to that stuff.

    Good tip - thanks

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    #47 5 years ago

    Progress I picked up the Dryfall paint, installed the recessed lighting and finished clearing the ceiling and basement area in general. Another night or two of odds and ends and wiring and I’ll be ready to spray the ceiling and move this project along! UV carpet tiles arrived yesterday as well – woot woot!!

    I'm trying to figure out is how many and what type of black lights to install. Do you guys have any suggestions for a 13’ x 21’ room? The games are going along the 13’ wall where the workbench currently is and I have three 24" UV fixtures that I plan on mounting under the games similarly to MustangPaul’s setup. For the ceiling I'm deciding between 48" slimline UV fixtures or UV CFL bulbs in either recessed cans or clamp-on work light fixtures/reflectors. I originally planned on using slimline fixtures but I just installed 10 recessed cans for the regular lighting and was thinking about installing another 8 cans alongside them to use with CFL’s. The cans are ~$7 each and Amazon has a good deal 20W CFL bulbs for ~$9 each that got great reviews so for ~$130 I could have all the fixtures neatly installed and wired up between the rafters (installing and wiring myself so no labor costs) as opposed to mounting slimlines fixtures underneath the rafters. However, one of my concerns with CFL's mounted in cans or clamp-on reflectors is they might not project/emit enough UV to completely flood the walls and floors of the room. My daughter painted a UV mural on one wall and is going to continue it on the wall behind games where the workbench is now and I plan on having a few UV posters on so getting UV to light up the walls is important. Love to hear your suggestions and/or see pics of your set-ups.

    Here are some pics of the progress before the recessed lights were installed. I have a hard deadline of being done by April 10th for my other daughters b-day party so I've got to get moving!
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    #48 5 years ago
    Quoted from zippydapinhead:

    Careful...I hear if you pick one of those you can never go back

    But you have to admit going back from black to white is a pain in the a...

    I'm just starting my own "gameroom ceiling" project and have come to the conclusion that i will install a slightly (2inches) dropped ceiling which will be "glowing" out of the edges.
    Plan is to mount a 2" wooden frame to the ceiling, staying away approx. 10 inches from the edges (= the rooms side walls). A RGB LED strip will be mounted facing the walls along the complete outer rim of the wooden frame. Then drywall will be mounted to the wooden frame, but the edges will be left "open", means the drop ceiling will stay away from the rooms walls by 6". This will produce a "gap" in which a small part of the original ceiling is visible. The light from the LED strips will light up this "gap" and the upper rim of the rooms walls. Recessed LED spots will be mounted in the drop ceiling above the walking area of the gameroom. Think of the whole thing as a "reversed" and RGB LED version of Stretch7's ceiling.

    The gameroom walls and outer rim of the ceiling itself will be painted in a very dark grey, the drop ceiling (drywall material) will be painted pitch black.

    My ceiling isn't to high by default and i felt this was the best solution that only costs little hight while still getting a cool indirect lighting effect and having a clean, professional look (as opposed to visible LED strips just glued to the walls around the room or likewise).

    Hope it will turn out as cool as I imagine it...

    #49 5 years ago
    Quoted from someoneelse:

    Hope it will turn out as cool as I imagine it...

    It's going to be a fun year finding out

    #50 5 years ago
    Quoted from TheLaw:

    It's going to be a fun year finding out

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