Exactly.

These guys, now I know they never made a guy version of 'The View' it's brutal, guess they're trying too hard to be witty or entertaining but seriously these guys are givin us pinball geeks a bad name.

I could have predicted it would flow great with 70% of the shots being ramps or loops. Reminds me of Predator pin in some stripped down bizarro world.

PF art on GOT looks not good.

STLE you forgot about half the features:

-Laser star field projection: if you haven't seen it (especially with black-out mod) you don't know how cool it is. Not the best feature in the world, but worth a mention in the features.

-Etched lighted side rails (this is the best lighted side rails to date) (this alone makes STLE stand out).

-Side head emblems (lighted) also nice feature (not the best in the world but nicer than the side head on GOT).

-Interactive Vengeance toy that both reacts to the hits as well as crashing effect (not sure about the Dragon on GOTLE probably a wash).

-Shaker (most will add this as a $150 addition on GOT LE)

-lighted speakers

-color changing lighted apron

-third ramp (with chase lights)

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I know the PF features on STLE do not equal that on GOT LE, but the extra bling on STLE (shaker, head emblems, LIGHTED side rails, Friken Laser) all seem to be head and shoulders above the bling you get on GOT LE. This is why I think the GOT premium would be the one to get. The only thing noteworthy on GOT LE is the etched side rails.

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I don't know what if anything is etched, I mean if it was a laser or what who cares. I said Laser Star Field and Lighted side cabinets (inside and out as well as lighted head emblems. On the GOT Premium the only thing you are missing is the art (no big loss) and the side armor (on GOT it does look kind of cool, but no where near as cool as the side armor on STLE

Does GOT have lighted side rails that are projected both inside and outside of the game? I don't even think GOT side rails are lighted. This is a big difference, it costs not a lot to etch the side rails but they put a good bit of lights in STLE the best attract mode in pinball.

no lights (zero) they are painted red. Still cool don't get me wrong, but I'm just contrasting, STLE is the bling king.

Heck, I agree. I have not really got into STLE (I'm not a heavy duty player), you might even call me a collector first and player second. So, I can not say ST is the best player. It's fun, but I'm not sure of the rules really.

But when people come over it's the sharpest looking game. Full color inserts, color changing lights in the apron and the lights on the side emblems as well as the laser and the lights on the side rails both inside and out. Really nice looking package to me.

I can't say much about the rules, they're probably fine. But to me having the stupid sword fighting game is bad. I guess some will like it, bit I've played games IJ, STTNG, T2 BSD and others with video modes and while they are a novelty they're not something I like or care about. I'd probably skip it, but I can see how some people especially new players might find it ok.

Also slot machine or spinner reward (I know it's a pinball machine so it's hokey or dumb, not as if you are actually in the movie). I'll go to Liar's dice in Potc, or Medals in ST. But both those examples are valid. I mean pirates do play that game and it's fine, and in ST you can see how people get medals based on how they fight or do in actual combat or a simulation.

But I fail to see how hitting pop bumpers in GOT and spinning a wheel of slot machine reels (I can't recall how it works) but that just doesn't fit the game for me.

While I'm sure the video mode and the spinning reward will be looked as a positive by a lot. For this one pinside for if I get a vote they're both not great.

Doesn't mean I won't buy one, but it's less likely (to me) based on those few quibbles.

I'll take this guy (plus magnets and three spinners) over a static dragon, IMO

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That's so funny as IM was downplayed at the time because it was cheap stripped down game, I think maybe it was also due to peg legs and plastic apron and new latch lock and other things, but it has to have about the same BOM as AcDc or Tron or TWD or ST pro.

Heck Tron comes with a $10 (looking) arcade placeholder and AcDc has a plastic covered cannon (which looks like it would cost $4 for the plastic cover). I don't see any of those type of cheap-o things on IM and while Met pro seems to be the poster boy for a full value pro in this day and age it has zero spinners compared to 3 spinners on IM. Not saying that spinners are expensive but you have to wonder why Stern removed them from the pro and didn't even put them in the Met LED pro (where they upgraded the bell on AcDc led pro)