Got is still fun though, but it does look very ugly and cheap next to a hobbit

Hobbit does need to be set up steep (mines at 7.2) and open the outlanes wide

Hobbit all day long. GOT would be a major downgrade in every respect. How could you look at that horrible art and video clips in red monochrome after having a Hobbit?

Eventhough I dont care for the upper PF on GOT, I'd still take it over the Hobbit. JJP games are great to look at, but dont have staying power in my experience. I've left multiple credits on location games because a couple games is all I can take on them.

I have a got le... It's one great game... So many strategies to pick from. I actually like the upper playfield and this art package the best. I've played hobbit a few times... It's okay... It looks great but not a huge fan of widebodies. As a buyer, you should always play for yourself.

GOT premium over Hobbit in my opinion. If you really don't like long games though, GOT might not be for you either. As mentioned by another poster, yes you can cruise through modes, but if you're trying to maximize score, you can spend a lot more time in modes. It can run long. There are plenty of shorter-playing games out there. But if the question is strictly which of the two is better, GOT has my vote.

Take the center post out of The Hobbit, set the angle at like 7°, turn off ball saves and extra balls and finally wax the PF and you'll have quick games for sure!

Game of Thrones: fun pinball game

The Hobbit: next level pinball experience

Good thing I'm playing it and not hanging it on my wall.

Same here. Hobbit's gameplay and code is a masterpiece to go along with its good looks. Complete package.

GOT is the one you toss a few coins at on the street. Hobbit is the one you take home.

...then divorce as soon as you realize it stopped putting out as soon as you got it home.

(On an unrelated note, if you can tell me how to get that stupid Shipoopi song out of my head, I'd really appreciate it. I hold you personally responsible...)

Mine puts out for hours at a time! (Yes the games are long lol)

Why? I had nothing to do with it.

Interesting to see GOT winning this poll yet it's about 20 ranks below Hobbit in the Top 100. Just an observation, obviously the Top 100 is not without faults.

They are two totally different style games. The only advice on here that has made any sense is to go play each yourself and then decide. Different strokes for different folks. Hobbit hasn't gotten old to me yet, but when I play a got pro, I lose interest after a while. Again, only you can decide which one were your appetite.

You work for those people. SOMEbody's gotta take some responsibility. Friggin' song pops into my head at the stupidest times...and all these years later. They should make an anti-Shipoopi pill or something. I even hear it in Peter's voice...

He said he didn't like long games. Hobbit is a long playing game. I voted GOT for him even though GOT doesn't deserve to smell Hobbit's shit. GOT isn't even in the same league.

Well let's judge them when they are both on the final code. By the looks of it there are many more updates coming out for the hobbit. Can't say as much about GOT.

Look at the credits and plot your vengeance accordingly. I had nothing to do with it.

Hobbit got my vote...but got is great pin too...

See...now I'm depressed. I just realized that the only way that GOT gets any respect around here is when it's compared to The Hobbit.

Haha that's funny. You really don't like the hobbit do you? Thats ok I still like you

The SE (special edition) is the black arrow. The standard doesn't have powder coated legs and railing.

The Hobbit is, hands down, the most beautiful machine ever made, IMO. But I find it boring, no matter where I play it. However, that being said, my statement was more about the fact that GOT could top ANYTHING in a poll, which surprised me with the beating it took here on Pinside. I still think it's a great game. Ugly playfield, but a great game. If it was a game like that and looked like Hobbit, you'd have a masterpiece.

My GOTLE gets a ton more plays than my RRWOZ which is a ton better than the Hobbit. GOT is by far the best of the three.

So basically if the hobbit and GOT made a baby it would be beautiful and fun!

This poll has nothing to do with the top 100 as I'm sure many that submitted a review for either game did not vote in this thread. Also, a vote in this thread is just that, a vote, versus a review which takes into account a number of items (rules, artwork, sound, playfield design, etc).

I have both GoT LE and Hobbit. I agree with the opinion that GoT is more fun to play. I like the risk reward that comes with building up big jackpots and deciding when to cash them then. Hobbit is much better looking with better build quality. Kids and non pinheads prefer the Hobbit hands down. There is room for both in a collection, but if I were to choose one it would be GoT.

So...you're bitter?

Nope, Hobbit is the higher ranked game in the top 100 for multiple reasons. As I said before I would like to get some more time in on GOT. I had a hard time getting into the pro due to the artwork and the plastic vibe of the game. Only played 1 game on a premium but I thought it played and looked better then the pro.

I'm a fan of the GOT show but when I look at the pin it doesn't make me think of GOT at all due to the artwork. Stern was likely limited to what HBO would allow which is unfortunate. If Stern had more freedom with the artwork I'm sure that the game would be ranked higher.

OP should go with whatever game he likes the best.

Based on this thread, the majority of people who own both have picked GOT.

I really hope Dwight can get some good code in to finish this game and even help out the upper pf.

If you don't like the long ball times I would sell it. If you like the hobbit potential then wait till the new code comes out. Sounds like you would enjoy got better by the looks of it.

The problem is releasing games without finalizing code. Makes games look empty.

If you don't care for the Hobbit, sell it You don't need the pinside peanut gallery to rationalize your personal opinion!

Top dollar games are usually slower to sell. Either stay patient or try lowering the price. Low $7k or even $6900 would probably liquidate it a lot faster.

Lol it's done, dude. Sterny style. Hobbit's still got Keith jamming away for sure.

Sadly, this is a harsh truth and reason why im so hesitant on Aerosmith or Star Wars (future). My next pin(s) may just be some SS games, AFMR, a vault edition (if its good), Spooky (if they make something i like), or even a P3 multimorphic; all because of sterns consistant lack of commitment to code

Have you tried setting it up tougher and faster? That might help a little so decrease ball times. Also keep it up on pinside and see what happens

I think the problem here is that you can get it NIB for about $8300, and for most people, mods are a personal choice. Generally there needs to be a little room between the new and used price until new ones are no longer available.

you have to remember being a pro - GOT is much more accessible, so many more people have played it and seen its fun. Hobbit will be much more scarce, and many people if they have played it will only have a game or two on it. I had a poor initial impression of it as well, however after playing it and learning some of the rules and setting it up how I like it, I then realized how great of a game it is.

I had the Hobbit LE and I have the GOT LE. Enough said

That's your problem. Play it more. Maybe you don't understand the rules yet? I didn't at first and was unsure...once they clicked...holy moly, it suddenly becomes gaddamn magic.

As mentioned above, the price is part of the issue. A nib shipped can be found for $8500. Your asking price plus shipping isn't far enough off. A trade may work better in this case​ plus minus cash.

Yeah, you can't really flip a game for big bucks when it's still in production. Also, most Hobbits seem to be selling for $7500 in the used market at the moment. That's what I got mine for, anyway. I got a Smaug, but could have picked up an LE for less!

Well, it's not flipping, per se....but like others have said, potential buyers don't value mods as much as we think they do. If you were to sell it for $7500, it's not a huge loss...that's still quite a chunk of change. Think of some of the games that didn't hold their value... "back in the day" new Sterns like T3, South Park, Austin Powers, Elvis were selling for $1500 not too long after they were new. You're doing OK if you can still get $7500 back on a Hobbit.

Do you "get" the rules yet? Do you know about the multiple skill shot choices? Do you understand how to collect the Arkenstone shards to start those crazy ass "mini" wizard modes? Did you figure out spelling LOCK twice to light locks at the orbits, giving you multiballs for modes which then lead to treasure hunts?

Also, set your beast settings a bit harder - they won't pop up as much which IMO lets you learn the other stuff better and balances the gameplay.

And - try my audio settings. Makes the game sound so much better:

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Game of Thrones Prem/LE, hands down. Hobbit is still pretty dull. Lots going on but nothing to say.

I own both le games and it would be a very tough but I believe the hobbit by a nose