There is also a node board update in this code update.

The ORBITS test is in diagnostics/GoT Specific/Orbit and lifts up the gates to allow the ball to be manually tossed up the left and right orbits.

The node board problem seems to not be a node board problem after all. I installed the new code update, which addresses the flippers shutting down, and I haven't had any problems (which is probably why Stern tech support ignored my email about getting a new node board).

Beelzeboob - does your GI flicker when you hit the flipper buttons?

And the flippers are inactive during this test. I'm thinking it would be nice to have the flippers active in this test for a true orbit experience.

No. But install the latest code. There was something causing node board problems. I just put in the new code and my flipper problems are totally fixed. Weak flippers, dead flippers, everything.

That's exactly like my game. Right to left is like butter. Left or right is impossible.

So I'm just about at 400 games played, and I've been getting some left orbit now. There was absolutely zero left orbits going through (when it's supposed to) for the first 350 games, then by 375 games it happened again. Now in the last 10 games the left orbit went through three more times.

Maybe the game just needs to be worked it a bit before it begins to flow properly. I keep loving this game more all the time and was shocked the first time I had that orbit go through, I can't wait until there's a permanent fix for it.

Same. Past couple days I've been averaging about one complete left orbit per game. Never more than two. Usually happens during winter is coming or when I complete house Stark... did it with both right flipper and a relatively weak backhand. Part of me wants to believe Stern stealthily did something to the way that diverter behaves in the last code update. Still totally unacceptable, but beats the nothing I was getting before!

Got my premium yesterday. Left orbit either returns back or right into the pops. I haven't had one make it around with the glass on or off. Right makes it around regularly. I'll start at the beginning of the thread.

Hey, Cap...did you or anybody else figure out a fix for the ball getting hung up under that gate by the throne/castle black lanes?

Maybe I am the lucky one, or Stern is addressing these issues on the production line. I have had to bricks at all going up right ramp, my battering ram is not rubbing on the screw, my battering ram registers a shot almost every good hit, I have had no right orbit issues, and when diverter is open I have been able to hit left orbits.

I do plan still on taking the upper play field off to have a look-see as there have been time it went into pops but not sure if thats because it was not a clean shot from flippers.

I do have one question though, my drop down gate in front of right ramp seems to be always down in gameplay. It does work because i tested it in diagnostics. Is this gate not fully utilized yet in the code, and when should I expect that the gate should be up? Only certain modes?

It goes up when you finish a castle mode, so it blocks the ramp when you start the second level.

capgun,

Not sure if you have already mentioned - I found that mounting your bracket too far to the right (right edge near the ball guide stud - within ~1/4") - does not provide as effective result as with the bracket positioned more like ~1/2-3/4" to the left of the ball guide stud. Re-watching your video, I mimicked your positioning. I does make a difference.

- by the way, did I mention I am now very proficient removing and replacing the upper playfield and ramps!

Thanks for providing a very workable and effective solution.

To fix the orbit do u need to remove the throne as well or just the upper platfield?

You do not need to remove the throne on order to install the fix

With the throne attached you can also get at the first rollover bumper, if you want to swap that out. The other two bumpers do require removing the throne to reach.

I first tried JUST the bracket and first rollover bumper. Results were not great. Ball seemed to get hung-up on the 2nd bumper. Once I swapped out all 3 bumpers with the coil sleeve approach - left orbits are awesome.

I find that hard to believe. The design of that left orbit would never allow a clean shot all the way through.

Hmm. No rotation here. I simply swapped out the rubbers for a 1in piece of coil sleeve, w/heatshrink applied.

I am blown away with all the issues people are having with a nib. I'm sure stern will figure it out and have fixes but they should have delayed production and fixed this stuff before they shipped.

The game is working at about 98% right now as is. There's not a lot of issues. Just one really. Some games work 100% outta the box, others need some additional tweaking. But all in all the game is fantastic. The code is further along than other games. It's not like the game is unplayable.

Should make the ops happy

And people were complaining about 5.0v light board WOZ issues

I think there might have been some strategic moves by Stern to make the WWE a Guinea pig spike game, imagine if it was a high profile title.

Adding my name to the list of Prem's with the issue. Game arrived today with 1.21, updated code to 1.23, no dice. What is the wait time looking like for you fix at this point, capguntrooper?

I put the capn's bracket fix in as well as the roll over bumpers. This project sucked. I was impressed with how easy it was to remove the mini playfield but the ramps and throne are another thing entirely. Glad to say that it is all back together and I think working.

Here are my observations: Left orbit working better but most of the time the ball hits the metal flap (anyone know what this is called?) to the right of the rollover lanes and then drops down to the pop bumpers. Seems to me that the magnet on this flap that will hold it up is only activated sometimes. Anybody else notice this or know when the magnet should be activated?

Before inserting the mod almost all deep plunges would put me up on the miniplayfield, some landed in the rollover lanes. But I never had a plunge that made the complete orbit. Now after adding the mod it is about 50/50 miniplayfield v full orbit on a plunge. Is this normal? Did I mess something up during reinstall (Maybe the left side metal flap thing ?)

Installed washers on elevator, also added 4 washers each to the two screws on the left orbit plastic to pull the threads out of the lane. I added the throne cushion and now sometimes my ball will stay in the throne and not just bounce out.
Thanks CGT for providing support with this game.

Good to know thanks. I have been afraid to update my code from 1.21 after reading that 1.22 made some games unplayable. Any idea if 1.23 is safe?

1.23 here. Just a few games in. I have noticed 2 instances where balls got "stuck" behind the sword on the ramp. A coils is firing, but the sword does not actuate and the balls do not move forward. The machine initiates a ball search without result. Last several plays I noticed no issues. Chalked-up as a glitch for the moment...

About to go back to play a few more. Will be keeping an eye on this.

Found the issue. The sword is ever so slightly misaligned, getting hung-up on the front edge of the receiving slot at the bottom of its stroke. The sword is showing a bit of scoring where it rubs in the slot, which I have noticed before.

Fix: A slight bend of the sword permits free motion in the slot. Good to go.

It is amazing, that as slow as Stern is rolling them out, they are still just slapping the parts in and not testing them well, the people doing the testing don't really know much about pinball gameplay in general.

Is it just me, or is this whole orbit thing much ado over nothing? My left orbit shots go into the pops, same with the one at Phoenix Games, and no one cares. It doesn't feel like a problem. It feels like the orbit diverter on IM and Met that sends the right orbit shots into the pops. What's so bad about that? The pin plays great and everyone loves it.

Hopefully all this fuss isn't scaring people away from buying this amazing pin. It's the best pin Ritchie has made in 20 years and it's the best pin Stern has made since Metallica, by far.

No disrespect to the guys who want to fiddle around with the orbit and jerryrig it to make full orbit shots in both directions. I see no need.

If a game was designed to do something & it isn't then yes i'd say there is a problem.

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Equating my stance with this image only reinforces my point. Many of you are taking this this too seriously and allowing it ruin your fun. Not me. We're not talking about stuck balls and Hulk arms breaking off. Unless you've pre-conditioned your brain to expect/want/need a full orbit shot in both directions, there is no issue. I've watched dozens of people (not on Pinside) play this game and zero have perceived a problem. Everyone loves it. I get that it may (or may not) have been designed to work differently, but it works how it works.

I say get back to enjoying your GOTs.

After playing a bunch, I agree with NorCalRealtor AND everyone else. It's not a huge problem, it's not completely breaking gameplay for me at this point, but, it's not working the way it is intended to, and it DOES require a fix.

I do enjoy my GOT--even with all its flaws--and I was just busting your balls. The fact that Centerflank, a notorious ball-buster himself, was annoyed enough to downvote me just means that my work here is done.

This is the most important thing you said right there. The game is amazing with the left orbit not working properly.

Game of thrones pre/le is the most fun that I have had on a pin. A CLASSIC IN THE MAKING. Although I haven't fixed my orbit yet, I know the game will be noticeably better after this is fixed.

My biggest problem is minuscule by comparison to other games. I don't like when I start a WIC shot up the left orbit and the ball rolls back down the orbit and scores a shot I didn't make. There are times when the game is designed to have the ball roll through and it should.