Nice pics TVP. You may need to enlarge the assembly's mounting holes

I also tried to move the ball rail that is right of the diverter back/aft more when tightening the ball rail nut underneath the playfield. There is not a lot of room for movement.

So in summary, I tried moving the diverter assembly and bushing fore/forward and the ball rail back/aft. There is not a lot of room for movement.

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great job

I put my game back together to see how the left orbit works and it still will not ever make it to the right orbit.

I tried moving the diverter bushing and diverter coil assembly as far forward as I could and also tried moving the ball rail, right of the diverter, as far back as I could.

I emailed stern yesterday and am awaiting a response.

I am not sure what else to try.

If others are having similar problems, please email stern to let them know.

Here is a link to a 7 second video showing the left orbit shot being made. I video'd the shot being made during the start of BTFW multiball. You can see the left orbit ball coming in the mirror blades and it falls down the right orbit with a newly launched ball. I have made this shot backhanded from the left flipper, but it is not as consistent as the shot from the right flipper. You do realize that the complete left orbit shot is not available all the time. There is a diverter at the top right that is closed most of the time to feed the pop bumpers.

I have never seen these 2 lights lit up in gameplay but they do light up as the game sits. I thought this was the skill shot? or at least in the pro. Any other L.E owners with this or may not have noticed given so much crowding there?

Thanks for the video. I am aware the gates are only open on certain modes like on the martel mode. Is their any way you could shoot another video with that mode running with one ball. On your video the other ball stops the motion of the orbit shot. Does the ball go all the way around smoothly or does it just barely dribble out. Thanks again.

Yes I am aware of the other diverters. Unfortunately, the ball gets knocked off its orbit and lands in the lanes before even making it to the diverter just right of the lanes.

Does anyone know when the complete left orbit shot is supposed to be available? Mine definitely works in Martell Mode. The full orbit kicks my ass sometimes by the surprise of having it. So ... unless you're in a few certain modes (Martell, Baratheon (I think), multiball, etc), the complete left orbit is not available?

Just updated to 1.21 WTF Now I have flipper issues! During gameplay just not responding for a split second up to a second or 2 on both playfields !!!!! Argh
Not happy Stern.

My Martell has always been upper playfield. Still testing new code and not happy so far.

Flipper issues since update to 1.21 anyone?

Hopefully somebody at Stern is watching this and they can make this themselves. Pretty inexcusable this passed quality control. Really fantastic work thanks again!

Yes, the ball goes all the way around smoothly. I have done the left orbit with a backhand shot off the left flipper multiple times, but it is much easier with from the right flipper. You can imagine the speed coming from the orbit shot if the ball that was launched didn't get in the way. It's very quick. I have even had the left orbit shot come around and made the left kicker, as a matter of self defense.

That's good news maybe not all GOTLE's games are affected then.

Thanks for the update. I am waiting to hear back from stern. Looks like good fix since the diverter or ball rail can't move.

This is starting to piss me off with my last two Steve Richie games. GOT-LE with this problem and his fix on ST-LE of drilling a screw into the playfield by the pops for ball hangups.

Come on Richie, design better!

I think you nailed it. I'm not sure about the custom post rubbers but I believe the ball is hitting the V on the rail. I can make the shot pretty consistently from the right flipper but not the left. Speed of the shot being more an issue.

I think Steve Ritchie was referring to the problem. Was having where the ball was not making the elevator. This had to do with the diverter arm at it's base was sticking out on mine. I believe I may have been the only person to have this issue.

Hey Cap you test the left orbit with just stock post rubbers and your shield?

Capgun, any chance you could post some more detailed images of your "custom shield transition piece"? Maybe the dimensions of it too as well as how exactly you installed it?

My LE is also having this issue with the left orbit. I tested while battling Martell since the ball should make full completions from either orbit. When shooting the left orbit, I see the ball gate raise to let the ball pass through, but the ball never actually makes it to the gate & falls into the pops every time. The right loop shot makes the complete orbit every time though.

+1

For everyone having the orbit problem, please contact stern to have your problem documented.

I'd rather see stern make a fix instead of us having to do it.

Thanks

My WD has this screw by pops also

Already done. I called Stern to notify them & also sent them an e-mail linking this thread as well as videos of the problem occurring across multiple machines from YouTube videos of the LE.

When I called, Shawn said that Steve Ritchie had already taken Pat & Chas out of the office to look at something, so they could already be onto it. Either way, they're definitely aware of it now.

I talked to chas and emailed him a link to this thread and the videos as well.

Thanks!

I am also having a issue as my ball keeps getting stuck here (look at pic) What are you guys suggesting? Cap my throne was also broken I called Stern to send me a new one lol

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Just an update from my experience with Stern tech support: They initially told me to try Steve Ritchie's proposed solution (loosening the diverter assembly screws, then pushing it forward while retightening the screws). Unfortunately, that didn't solve the issue for my game. Upon hearing this, Stern told me that they are aware of the issue happening across multiple machines. They said that they are actively researching a solution for the issue & that they would get back to me.

Are you guys with your fix a orbit issue or is your ball getting stuck like mine?

Yea I posted a pic in my earlier post of ball stuck... I need to start taking it apart to fully look at whats going on.

Anyone ever have a left orbit shot actually rebound and come back out of the left orbit? I'm getting that too.

happens to me. Usually from backhanding from left flipper.

I hear you that was the only shot I could really get without removing parts of PF.. I will start working on it and try to get a better shot when I start getting access to the area and I will post some new pics. Thanks Cap for all this great info for GOT owners!

Yes. This actually started happening a lot more on my game since I tried Steve Ritchie's proposed fix. Before that, the ball would usually fall into the pops instead of making the full orbit. Now I get a mix of either rebounds or pops.

All the time

I figured out whats going on with mine yet I still need to fix it... On the left orbit shot when a ball does not have allot of speed its getting hung up between the rubber and the gate. You would think this wouldn't happen much yet its every freaking game! Cap how should I access the area take off the upper playfield? I think smaller rubber on that post and getting in there to see WTF is going on would be a good start. Any suggestions?

Just for the record, my game is untouched, I've not tried any fixes. Waiting for a final "fix" (hopefully from Stern). So the ball bouncing back is from the factory build.

I'm having the same issue, very frustrating

SHEESH! With all these issues I may just wait for a second run of the premiums and code bugs get worked out, at least they haven't abandoned GOT code like they have with KISS.