!!!ATTENTION!!!!
DISCLAIMER: I am not a STERN TECH, the information posted here is to help assist owners on their STERN pinball machines (more so with GOT LE/PREM models this topic), With that being said I am a owner/operator of a few location arcades. LETS GET TO IT NOW!

This machine truly is amazing out of the box. Over the course of the next few weeks I will be adding a lot of mods to truly make this LE, Lannister worthy. So pay close attention to all the updates and mods that will be added. I have been reading all of the LE threads and noting issues that everyone is having with theirs and have been comparing them with my own. I noticed right from the start that my throne was damaged and have a new one on order. The ticket pin was bent, no biggie as I bent it back. My biggest gripe so far is the shear laziness that went into the wiring of the ramps. I have already started breaking down the mini play field and relocating the wires that run under the ramps so they are not eye sores anymore. Look for next few posts and tutorial on relocating them so they do not stand out so horribly.

The mini play field break down was not all that hard and from what I have seen from under there it is recommended that everyone do it to clean out the mess left behind. I will post pictures later of the mini play field removed. You will see that under the play field there were lots of metal shavings, so all LE owners should check your play fields for that. I am also getting the same 23 tech alerts as others. I will also get under side pics of mini play field for everyone wanting reference pics.

While I am breaking this down make sure to send your requests for any reference pics you all may want, more to follow.

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SLOPPY, yes, but with a little extra work I am betting this will be an all time great, its ashamed it can not be like that right out of the box.

Can you post a pic of where exactly it is hanging up and I will try and mimic the same on mine. I will admit I only put about 10 games on it before I was noticing issues so It may be a more than a few days before I get it put back together completely for final game play, but rest assured I am going to bullet proof this one like my KISS LE.

UNDERSIDE MINI PLAY FIELD

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Was reading about those two screws protruding in the elevator and was having the same ball hang up issue. ALL FIXED NOW! I added two lock washers that made them nearly flush with elevator wall. This is also a must for LE owners even if your ball does not have clearance issues. I would imagine your pin balls getting chewed and nicked up by scraping against those frequently. Replacing 6 balls every 100 plays could get costly over time.

As you can see from outside the elevator and inside the elevator pics those two screws are going to eat up some pinballs if that is not addressed. Pictured from back play field panel I have installed two lock washers for the protruding fix. Make sure you grab hold of the spring and coil at same time or else the coil spring and washers will go flying into bottom of cab.

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I am looking into that but have to remove right and left ramp and then to get a better look. Mine also does not make complete orbits and from what I can tell may not be able to because of the Castle Black gate stopper coil being active, i will investigate further and take lots of pics for the fix I create.

WHATS UNDER THE MINI PLAY FIELD

FYI Not sure if this was forgotten some of the plastic protectors were not removed. i removed this one as it looks like it would work itself off and cause a hang up later on.

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Here is what it looks like after washers have been installed, damn near flush now and no elevator issues. I did the fix on day one but am just now being able to get pics with mini play field off. Bouncy drop targets? Can you take a picture or better yet a video and post so I can see what you mean. Did you check to see of your target retraction springs are connected?

My left ramp was also cracked. My distributor is going to looooove me with all these fixes.

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coming up in a few

MINI PLAY FIELD REMOVAL

Any additional questions? The mini play field can actually be removed without taking dragon off but I figured I would not risk damaging anything or scraping plastics trying to wiggle it out from under dragon. Once you remove dragon and have mini play field out reattach dragon with two screws in back with just your hand so he is not dangling back there.

Disconnect these two connectors under main play field, you may need to snip one zip tie holding themIMG_2725_(resized).JPGThe two connectors from mini play field are fed through the hole next to node boardIMG_2724_(resized).JPGFor ease of mini play field removal, the ramp attached to mini play field will be detached. Remove ramp screw hereIMG_2726_(resized).JPGRemove two ramp entrance screwsIMG_2727_(resized).JPGRemove the four screws holding dragon on backside of play field back wall. There are fourIMG_2722_(resized).JPGtop two screws loosened before removal, do not forget bottom twoIMG_2723_(resized).JPG Remove two ramp entrance screws to mini play field then the four corner screws I also point at in below picturesIMG_2721_(resized).JPGIMG_2720_(resized).JPGIMG_2719_(resized).JPGIMG_2718_(resized).JPGIMG_2717_(resized).JPG

Beelz can you please post a picture here showing me exactly where it is hitting? I won't have the play field back together until my replacement parts come in so keep checking back here for the fix maybe end of this week or so. I will be addressing a lot of fixes once I have put my LE back together, as of now I am doing fixes and mods

For everyone asking about my banners, you can get them at Toys R Us here, they only have Lannister and Stark as of now http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=71324726&cp=&parentPage=search I might incorporate the mini guards on the wall as well like I have done with my TWD

Doing rubber replacement with black polyurethane super band replacements. I noticed on the few games I played that the ball would struggle slightly getting into lane and I noticed that the bumper rubber was quite large so I switched it for a smaller one. I also replaced the bumper rubber for the post by left orbit with a smaller one so now it does not encroach into the left lane and is flush. YES, this also makes the out lane wider, but thats why you have adjustable out lane posts, simply move it one notch down and you will be back to even difficulty.

More updates all day long today, stay tuned!

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I hear ya on fast! I am almost nervous with all the polyurethane replacements I am doing. Take a video with glass off and film the ball entering into mini play field where it gets hung up or bricks. then just take a picture of where it bounces from the video and post here, no need to upload video as it would take too long and we would probably not catch it

Adding plastic protectors along with my rustic metal Hand Of The King Toppers I customized, they give the plastics some depth and they look GREAT on an LE, IMO.

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I dint notice this at all on mine. Have you tried different pitches? My suggestion would be to add washers to top plastic entrance to give it a bit more clearance.

Well crap, I couldn't tell ya the size, but if you take the screw to home depot you could just match it up, I just have a tub of them from a parts bin. Is your coil kickback having frequent issues? Check the level on play field. I know on my TWD level was good on glass but not when I tested it on play field so my left leg is like one extra turn higher than right.

I am running 1.02 from factory and have not noticed this, then again I only had 20 games in before I began break down.

Make sure you LE owners get a some mylar protectors on the armor. You might begin to notice the left armor side getting nicked up from your wives rings, specially if you all sold a few extra pins in your collection to get her that extra BLING.

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PICS OF RAMP TO MINI PLAY FIELD

Does everyones GOT LE look like this? or is there additional hardware on mine?

Can some one tell me what this switch does by the two target switches? Does not seem to be labeled

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While I have the mini play field off I went ahead and put mylar in the metal drop lane, I was not keen on cleaning out those metal shavings and once I reassemble this sucker back its not coming back off for a long while.

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Had to cut it myself and it was a PITA, I saved the cut outs so I might do a bulk order for people if there is interests

Game Of Thrones LE RUBBER LIST:

4 - Flipper bands
2 - 2 1/2 ID
1 - 1 3/4 ID
2 - 1 1/4 ID
3 - 3/4 ID
3 - 7/16 ID
3 - 5/16 ID
3 - 3/16 ID
8 - 7/16 MIDIPOST
RECOMMEND
4 - Flipper bands
2 - 2 1/2 ID
1 - 1 3/4 ID
2 - 1 1/4 ID
3 - 3/4 ID
3 - 7/16 ID
6 - 3/16 ID (FOR TOP INLANE RUBBERS FOR POPS ENTRANCE)
5 - 7/16 MIDIPOST
3 - 3/8 MINIPOST (FOR LEFT ORBIT ENTRANCE AND L & R OUT LANE POSTS)Game Of Thrones LE RUBBER LIST:

I was doing some ball tossing through the orbits and noticed more than a few hang ups on the account that the castle Black entrance lanes to the pops have larger rubbers on the posts. As seen from pictures these rubbers are definitely encroaching in the lanes and I have seen the ball hit them and bounce more than few times back in the pops. I will know for sure in a week or so once I get the smaller rubbers in and installed. Check back on this issue in a week or so.

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You do not have to remove upper play field for that, but you will have to remove the mini play field entrance ramp to get to other ramp. I can honestly say removing the other stuff is going to be a lot holder, my suggestion would be to take pics for reference.

I can see that little plastic film falling off at some point and landing in peoples out lane causing some serious hang ups.

Did you get your throne replaced? If so where do you start by removing it? I haven't taken mine off yet as I am waiting for the replacement. It is really pathetic that the last two pins from Stern have made it through QC. I have nearly removed 80% of the play field to correct issue that QC should have found on both my KISS LE and GOT LE. Let me be clear, I am not bashing STERN as a whole, but I am sure as hell bashing the QC idiot letting these things go out the door. IT IS A FRIGGIN LE! If anything there would be 2 QC staff at the same time on these, there are only 700, heck if QC spent the same amount of time Gary spent singing our LE CERTS, they might find half the problems. Sorry everyone, just venting. I have spent more time fixing a BRAND NEW PIN 10 times longer than I have playing it. I can honestly say that the LE/PREM is not for anyone who is just a fan, meaning you will at least need minimal pinball experience in making repairs and adjustments on pinball machines. God help you if you are not aware of PINSIDE. (atheist humor)

Yes, but I would suggest you go with my recommended list for a more smooth flowing game. You will have to do some major break down of the play field to get to the pops rubbers and entrance lanes from castle black. Plan on spending a day or two breaking it down and getting it back together