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Future Spa Club - Come on in the water is warm!

By Xenon75

10 years ago


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#5 10 years ago

I have been working on one. This is a learning experience because I haven't worked on a pin with this particular set of boards. I am used to System 11 and WPC. So far, I have rebuilt the transformer board and the voltage regulators on the driver board. Also replaced a few bad transistors on the driver board. I have the proper voltages at all of the test points. The CPU powers up and the GI and most inserts are working (probably a few bad components on the board that runs the inserts).

Now that I have voltage, the problem is that all of the coils (except the flippers... they work fine) seem to fire all together as soon as the machine is powered on, and the 1amp fuse under the playfield immediately blows. Trying to figure out what that might be... I am guessing that something is shorted under the playfield, but why would ALL of the coils fire? Weird stuff.

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#7 10 years ago
Quoted from Frax:

Most logical explanation is that something that would connect ground to all of those solenoids is shorted... I don't entirely know this boardset either... is there a pre-driver IC that controls all the smaller transistors before the bigger ones that directly fire the other solenoids?

I was actually thinking about replacing the IC on the driver board U1, U2, U3, and U4 next.

http://bigdaddy-enterprises.com/pdf/bally-solenoid.pdf

•1 ea. 74154 4-to-16 Decoder
•3 ea. 3081 Transistor Array IC

#10 10 years ago
Quoted from Frax:

Sounds like a good place to start to me.. I would start with the 74LS154 (U2), as that seems to be the first link in the chain that would have the potential to ground all of the solenoids if I'm not mistaken. Prior to that would be the PIA that signals that chip.....but that chip is what's directly signaling the pre-drivers.
http://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:B_solenoid1.jpg
*edit* Technically, and keep in mind my diagnosis skills are still pretty lacking, I THINK you could test the output pins of the U2 and see if they're constantly high on all output pins...that would tell you if it's fried. I think. :p

10-4 that. I will test and see..

Thanks for your help!

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