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Future of Pinball?


By Trekie

3 years ago



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    #1 3 years ago

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    #2 3 years ago

    UM, maybe for some, but not me.

    #3 3 years ago

    What! No ball shooter?

    #4 3 years ago

    Ugh, no way! The cabinet art is awful!

    #5 3 years ago

    not a chance

    #6 3 years ago

    I saw the video on this.....not the future, but its cool and a lot easier on the wallet

    #7 3 years ago

    I take the pc way or a real game not some VR thing.

    #8 3 years ago

    Not for me

    #9 3 years ago

    Just like xxx VR will replace the thrill of dating/ having sex... Anyone who had his heart racing due one of the two will know that VR will only be a cheap thrill in comparison....

    But just like dating.... VR will be a lot cheaper

    #10 3 years ago

    10k by christmas !

    #11 3 years ago

    Looks goofy, but I've heard from some enthusiasts that VR pinball is a huge leap from regular virtual pinball. I hope to have some time with a Vive and VR Pinball FX shortly - my brother just got the his setup and is raving about it....

    I'm sure it's been on here before, but here is Tested's video on a similar home built cab base for VR:

    #12 3 years ago

    Future of pinball = more of the same. Higher prices.

    Fine with me. It's cool as is.

    #13 3 years ago

    the chinese buy stern,
    then make it more like pachinco
    then we're fucked, we play pokemon go instead

    #14 3 years ago
    Quoted from PinKopf:

    Looks goofy, but I've heard from some enthusiasts that VR pinball is a huge leap from regular virtual pinball.

    I played VR Pinball FX on a Oculus Rift and I did not think it was leaps and bounds better than nicely set up video cabinet. I played the same table in the picture. It was cool to look and see things around the cab, in this instance you have fish swimming around you while you play.

    One thing that is different about VR pinball, the people around you can see what your seeing on a screen, but because you are immersed in a setting that is a video game, you can only talk to them and not really socialize with them. Kind of like you are online gaming instead of actual interaction with the person next to you.

    Instead of being closer to a real pinball experience, I feel it goes the opposite direction and puts it more into the video game experience.

    As for the future of pinball- virtual pinball will not replace mechanical pinball. It might replace video pinball, but never the real thing. Just like VR porn might supplant regular porn, but can never compare to real sex.

    #15 3 years ago

    Plans to build or in current issue of Make magazine.

    #16 3 years ago

    Still better than The Pin

    #17 3 years ago

    I think VR has it's place but is no real replacement for the real thing.

    #18 3 years ago

    Barcades die, collectors own all pinball machines, collectors die, disinterested kids let them rot in garages, give up their physical forms to join the Cloud, roving family of raccoons moves into the last playable Big Bang Bar and eats all the plastic.

    #19 3 years ago

    I think it's a fun idea. Not going to replace the real thing, but it's fun to see how augmented reality can work for virtual pinball.

    #20 3 years ago

    I don't know if THAT is the future of pinball, but shit like motion sensors, IR tech and maybe some RFID action... that's what I see as the future of the silver ball.

    And, God willing, the ability to make every single pinball machine in the world give Crazy Levi an electric shock when he touches the flipper buttons. Not anything fatal, just like, shuffling his feet across a wool carpet and then touching metal.

    Quoted from jorro:

    the chinese buy stern,
    then make it more like pachinco
    then we're fucked, we play pokemon go instead

    Goddamn I was hoping that was a haiku.

    #21 3 years ago

    A significant portion of my interest in pinball stems from a desire for entertainment that has more emphasis on the reality and less on the virtual. I'll pass.

    #22 3 years ago

    What I think the OP meant to post is:

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    #23 3 years ago
    Quoted from Cornelius:

    Goddamn I was hoping that was a haiku.

    it is

    #24 3 years ago
    Quoted from 27dnast:

    What I think the OP meant to post is:

    yeah because real life pinball is such great excercise. i mean just look at all the totally ripped and cut guys who play it ....

    #25 3 years ago
    Quoted from pezpunk:

    yeah because real life pinball is such great excercise. i mean just look at all the totally ripped and cut guys who play it ....

    It's a sport, bro!!!

    Pinball on an iPad is terrible. Oculus pinball would be even worse, with the addition of nasuea.

    The real pinball athletes like myself will continue to sweat it out with the real thing!

    #26 3 years ago

    why are so many against virtual pinball? I don't think anyone hopes it will replace the real thing, but it has it's place.

    Let's say you wanted to own/play every game in the pinball arcade, well that's 73 titles (one of which they only made 10 so I guess some of you are going to have to fight over it). I think most of us wouldn't have the space much less the money to own all those titles. Imagine you have a tournament coming up, and you know some of the titles in the lineup and want to practice. Wouldn't it be nice (albiet a simulation) if you could get familiarized (or re-familiarized) with the layout and rules?

    Suppose you bought a project pinball that you've never played before. Other than watching a PAPA video (if it exists), how do you know if it's even functioning properly the way it should?

    Also sometimes it's nice to play pinball knowing nothing will break down on it, nothing will get worn. It's sort of like if you're into classic cars and you collect them because you like the tinkering, but sometimes it's nice to drive a reliable new car you don't have to do anything with but drive it.

    There's also a lot of great original titles that don't exist in the real world (junkyard cats comes to mind)

    I don't own a virtual pin (yet), but I'd like to at some point.

    #27 3 years ago

    They went all 90's for that photoshoot.

    Awkward stance. - Check
    Lasers in the background. - Check
    Bubble showing what he's seeing. - Check
    Looking in a direction that wouldn't actually see what he's seeing. - Check
    A big huge smile indicating he's having WAY too much fun. - Doh. They missed that one.
    People cheering him on with fists raised in the air. - Another missed point.

    Close I guess.

    #28 3 years ago
    Quoted from toyotaboy:

    why are so many against virtual pinball?

    There's also a lot of great original titles that don't exist in the real world (junkyard cats comes to mind)

    It's just not pinball, and we can pinball, so it's not loved.

    That game looks like the worst thing ever

    #29 3 years ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    Future of pinball = more of the same. Higher prices.

    Almost agree.

    Future of pinball = less of the same. Higher prices.

    Something like $12k Zizzles, made in Vietnam. Chinese labor is getting too expensive.

    #30 3 years ago

    LOL @ Cornelius taking time out of his busy day hunting Pokemon to downvote all my posts.

    Get over it Corny! Nobody like a sore loser.

    #31 3 years ago

    Complaining about being negged while negging me? Are you a bit... touched, Levi?

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    #32 3 years ago
    Quoted from toyotaboy:

    why are so many against virtual pinball? I don't think anyone hopes it will replace the real thing, but it has it's place.

    i agree. i like playing pinball on the iPad. it's not a replacement for the real thing at all, but it's a great way to experience tables you wouldn't otherwise get to experience, and learn the rules of lots of different games.

    i don't think there's ever been a person that bought The Pinball Arcade on iPad and then sold off their real-life collection. in fact, it seems to work in the opposite direction -- it just makes you hungrier for the real thing!

    #33 3 years ago
    Quoted from Cornelius:

    Complaining about being negged while negging me? Are you a bit... touched, Levi?

    You've been following me around for days "negging me."

    And in two days you've called me "a misanthropic dick," said you wanted me tortured via electric shock, and now you are calling me a retard?

    You sure you want to play the "looks like I'm getting to you!" game?

    I'm not complaining. Just pointing out that you are costing yourself valuable Pokemon. And frankly it's sad.

    Who will hatch your eggs?

    #34 3 years ago

    rowr the sexual tension is palpable in here.

    #35 3 years ago
    Quoted from pezpunk:

    rowr the sexual tension is palpable in here.

    I'll try anything once.

    What do you say Corny? Want to get it on?

    #36 3 years ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    I'll try anything once.
    What do you say Corny? Want to get it on?

    As long as you're the Power Bottom, sure!

    #37 3 years ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    And in two days you've called me "a misanthropic dick," said you wanted me tortured via electric shock, and now you are calling me a retard?

    So you CAN comprehend basic English. I'm impressed! +

    #38 3 years ago

    The only thing that differentiates pinball from other games is the physical reality of the ball itself - virtual pinball is just another video game.

    So, I'll pass, thanks.

    #39 3 years ago
    Quoted from jwilson:

    The only thing that differentiates pinball from other games is the physical reality of the ball itself - virtual pinball is just another video game.
    So, I'll pass, thanks.

    I've never played a virtual pinball that was anything like the real thing.

    the best one is still probably the Atari 2600 game. At least it was fun.

    "Virtual" pinball - in any form - will never be anything more than a novelty.

    #40 3 years ago

    I want it. Anyone know what the VR gear runs? Do the goggles hookup to a PC?

    #41 3 years ago

    I'll only buy it if they make an LE version.

    #42 3 years ago

    has virtual pinball gotten better? I haven't played one in awhile but the last time i did there was slight delay every time i hit the flipper button, drove me nuts!

    #43 3 years ago

    The future of pinball is more technological integration with physical playfields. What multimorphic is doing essentially.

    Removing the physical playfield just makes it a video game.

    #44 3 years ago

    Pinball Arcade is great if you're like most people and have zero access to an actual pinball machine.

    #45 3 years ago

    What got me to try real pinball a couple of years ago was an old Super Nintendo game called Super Pinball: Behind the Mask which I had bought for $2.50. I found it quite addictive and played it over and over again for months before it finally occurred to me that "Hey since I like this game so much, maybe I should give real pinball a try sometime." And now I own 10 machines.

    #46 3 years ago

    Not for me. I'll stick with the real thing. Pinball is enjoyable to me because of the tangible nature of it. Too many things have become "fake" with the virtual direction technology has enabled.

    #47 3 years ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    You've been following me around for days "negging me."

    Man that is the worst term i;ve heard

    #48 3 years ago
    Quoted from PoppyCock:

    has virtual pinball gotten better? I haven't played one in awhile but the last time i did there was slight delay every time i hit the flipper button, drove me nuts!

    Were you playing on a TV? If so, it was probably the fact that your TV wasn't in "game mode". Flatscreen TVs nowadays do a bunch of post processing (most of which you can turn off) which introduces lag between what's going on in the console and what's on the screen.

    I believe it was also a problem with early versions of TPA on PC.

    On iOS, lag hasn't been an issue.

    #49 3 years ago
    Quoted from trunchbull:

    Barcades die, collectors own all pinball machines, collectors die, disinterested kids let them rot in garages, give up their physical forms to join the Cloud, roving family of raccoons moves into the last playable Big Bang Bar and eats all the plastic.

    #50 3 years ago

    This is what happens when a person is too cheap to own a real pinball machine.

    A person builds a pinball machine that looks like a obtuse coffee table.
    Even the builder (which I applaud the creativity) said it was "too expensive" to install a real ball shooter.

    Friend: "Hey what is that in the corner?"
    You: "That is my pinball machine."
    Friend: "Seriously?"

    This is why even pure mechanical pinball machines exist to this day from the 1930s.
    Many methods have attempted to replicate the actual and physical gameplay of a pinball machine.
    All have failed.

    Until a full virtual reality pinball simulation with accurate force feedback is offered, people are wasting their money.
    I am not against computer pinball, just the concept that it will replace the "real deal".
    We are WAY off from this happening right now.

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