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Fuse F104 keeps blowing. Need help please.

By Johnnys

5 years ago


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#2 5 years ago
Quoted from Johnnys:

I did find the violet-orange wire melted to one of the ground brown wires in the circuit so I cut and repaired those but fuse still blows.

Do you have any photos of the issue prior to and after repair? It might be good to see what was there and what is there now.

If the fuse blows without any of the solenoids actually firing then you most likely have a short to ground in the playfield wiring.

Quoted from Johnnys:

PS. If I remove j107 and J127 I can power on and everything but coils 9-16 seem to work ok.

This doesn't seem to make sense to me. J107 is solenoid power (for ALL solenoids) and J127 is low current drive (solenoids 9-16). If you remove those plugs then no solenoids should work. Can you clarify?

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Also, I noticed on power on that the 3 LED D19, D20, D21 seems wrong. I read that 1st D19 should come on for a quick second with d21 and then D19 should go off and D20 should blink. Well D19 never comes on but D20 does blink constantly and D21 remains on ok. Just wanted to mention that as well.

This sounds like D19 on the CPU board is not working.

#6 5 years ago
Quoted from Johnnys:

When I plug in j107 and leave j127 off then only 9-16 do not work.
Im running out of fuses so I only tried powering on without j107/j127 hooked up and thats when I do not blow a fuse at F104 which is a 250v 3A SB fuse that pops during the first 5 or 6 seconds I'd say when the machine is going through its testing at start up while both j107 and j127 plugged in...

Try connecting J107 but leave J127 DISconnected. If the fuse still blows then you have a direct short somewhere in the VIO-ORG daisy chain of wires in the playfield. If it doesn't blow then you've got a short somewhere on the other side (J127). I don't think it's the second case because a solenoid would actually fire when you power on that would cause the fuse to blow. It's more likely you have a short in the VIO-ORG wires.

If that is the case then you'll need to trace the wire in the bundle of wires to see if there's any obvious place where the insulation is missing or there's an errant connection to ground. Another thing you can try is to lift the playfield up and power on. Sometimes a wire touches a part that is connected to the ground braid throughout the cabinet and that's your short. If it blows with the playfield down but NOT with the playfield up then it's positional depending on the playfield and that should help you locate the problem.

That's where I'd start.

Finally ... if you want to rule out your driver board you can swap the board from your Party Zone.

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