Fire! Champagne Edition
Williams, 1987I paid $1700 for it about a year ago and I'm just looking to get the same amount out or trade for another system 11 or any combo of pins worth about the same amount. The game has some cracked plastics and and playfield wear but you can get a brand new Fire! playfield from CPR now. I like the blank wood cab but if anyone would like the original decal art I can get it printed up for a little extra.
Quoted from CrazyLevi:What happened to the artwork on the cab? Did it ship that way or has it worn off?
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Quoted from CrazyLevi:What happened to the artwork on the cab? Did it ship that way or has it worn off?
On the Champagne Editions, they were decals. They probably (I am only guessing here) got peeled off over time.
To the OP -
1) Do you have more detailed playfield photos?
2) Do all of the displays work properly?
3) Are the tubes present in the backbox and working?
With a bit of work, and some plating from Mike Chestnut, I bet this could be gorgeous.
Love the oak cabinet on this version, and the double fire tubes in the backbox.
Chris
These decals were apparently terrible quality and fell off almost right away. Tnt has a video on these and explains the issue with the decals.
Quoted from SilverUnicorn:On the Champagne Editions, they were decals. They probably (I am only guessing here) got peeled off over time.
To the OP -
1) Do you have more detailed playfield photos?
2) Do all of the displays work properly?
3) Are the tubes present in the backbox and working?
With a bit of work, and some plating from Mike Chestnut, I bet this could be gorgeous.
Love the oak cabinet on this version, and the double fire tubes in the backbox.
Chris
Yup. The decals were gone when we got it. I added a photo of what they look like. I can get them made up on CNC cut modern UV cured vinyl.
1) I'll get some more photos up soon.
2) The second player display is out in the pictures but it is an issue with the display itself and I can swap it out with one of our other system 11 displays.
3) The flame drum tubes are present and work great.
fire_champange_pinball.jpgIn my research and if I recall correctly. The decals may have been bad, but there were a certain number of them that never had them. These were either bought or given to Howard Johnson hotels and for some reason they didnt want them. Here is a pic of the cabinet from a regular edition I am restoring into a CEimage.jpg
Quoted from Fixer837:In my research and if I recall correctly. The decals may have been bad, but there were a certain number of them that never had them. These were either bought or given to Howard Johnson hotels and for some reason they didnt want them. Here is a pic of the cabinet from a regular edition I am restoring into a CE
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You are correct
Not a system 11 of I have a decent condition Getaway I'd be interested in trading. I love my game but I am trying to build an 11 collection. Usual cab fad, let me know if you are interested.
Quoted from futurepinhead:Not a system 11 of I have a decent condition Getaway I'd be interested in trading. I love my game but I am trying to build an 11 collection. Usual cab fad, let me know if you are interested.
I debate getting rid of everything and building a system 11 collection pretty much once a week. They're just a ton of fun, abundant (so cheap), and the art is great during the era.
Just did repairs on a CE Fire and they did not feel like decals on the side. Definitely not vinyl decals anyways. The art felt like it was screen printed ink.
AFAIK the art is identical to standard edition, but doesn't have the brown basecoat, so it seems to me like they would have just screen printed these like the regular edition. Has anybody actually seen one of these "decals" come off? I have seen pictures of numerous ones with no artwork at all and it seems unlikely that the decals would have come off all 5 sides on every one of them, so I've been under the assumption that some just got made with no side art from the factory.
There's no way screened ink could bite into that cab. It would come off fairly quickly. I imagine that is a problem with the decals too.
Quoted from gooterman:I see you still have my old dragon
They are right. Some came with decals, some didn't. I'd offer something up for it but most of my trade bait machines sold in the last few days on CL.
Hey Rob,
We actually sold Dragon about a month ago. It was a fun game and I love the art on it. It was one of the few games we hung on to for a long time.
Quoted from sleethering:I'll give you 3,500 for that Addams!
Addams is already sold. Leaves on Feb 8th 
Ok, I was curious. Here's a pic of this one here. It's definitely silk screen screen on this one. You can see the wood grain popping through. I imagine they used whatever they had like other games. This game is a beauty and this one is a good deal considering what other games are selling for.
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Damn that does look screened. Super interesting that there seems to be quite a bit of variation in this already rare machine.
Quoted from BoozeMarlin:The machine looks like it was done by HEP! GLWS!!!
you are either blind or joking...
Actually, we made the screens and silk screened it ourselves. We just screwed up, and touched it, while we were waiting for the paint to dry. I put my thumb print on either side of the fire so I could be identified later. ; )
I have a CE FIRE! The artwork on mine is silkscreened not decals.
From my understanding there were a certain amount of CE that were shipped without the silkscreen artwork so they would fit in to more high end locations and look more like a piece of furniture.
Phoebe
This thread has some information about what was/is known about the cabinets without artwork:
https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rec.games.pinball/IWSiFgK-yio/discussion
Brad
Quoted from Butterflygirl24:I have a CE FIRE! The artwork on mine is silkscreened not decals.
From my understanding there were a certain amount of CE that were shipped without the silkscreen artwork so they would fit in to more high end locations and look more like a piece of furniture.
Phoebe
What Phoebe says is correct. My CE Fire had silk screened artwork on the sides as well but some of the machines did ship without artwork on them.
Quoted from indypinhead:Black Knight had a special edition as well. That was way before Fire and TAF.
Kind of a crappy LE, though I can't think of any LE's earlier than BK. Only difference was micro switches in the ball trough an a foil apron decal.
Can't forget about Eight Ball Deluxe limited edition. The only limited edition that was almost 2500 games and much much uglier than the regular edition.
We worked out a trade today with Chris aka Garman411. Thanks everyone that offered trades or to purchase the game. If anyone is looking for a price check on one of these in the future it looks like $1700 is about the price for a fair condition machine.
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