Ok ok man we get it.

Relax, it's just pinball.

I know they sell weed in Holland.

I wonder if the price police can take away someone's badge if they go rogue.

I give him shit, because he asks for it.

If he says i am selling for the extra cash, then thats something i still wont like. But then thats it.

But he is saying he is tired, which is bull shit. He is not tired at all, he just wants the extra cash.

Just admit so we all can move on. Just admit you are scalping, and then we all have a nice day.

Wait..... I suddenly remember, i can leave this topic......

I have nothing against you personal, why would i? i dont know you.

You did not search good enough tom, so you are wrong. And when your looking and see my messages, you will find out that i am hammering on this subject only in scalping topics. In all other i am not, as you will see.

The only reason this discussion is not ended 40 posts ago is because you used tired as a reason which is bull shit and you know it.

they don`t sell in st.louis?

Finaly we are there. Thanks.

Good luck with scalping.

Well, you are talking out of your ass, I know Tom personally and he is very tired of waiting, he brings it up every time I see him, 3 or 4 times a month, so it's not BS. If you saw his collection and his game room you'd realize he ain't hurtin' for money.

Scalpers buy things with no intention of using them themselves. So you want us to believe he put all that cash down 2+ years ago just so he could make a profit on the game when he somehow knew JJP would take this long. Uh huh. Why wait an extra year, then? He could have sold it for just as much a year ago.

Your objection makes no sense.

Give it a rest dude! The OP had his money tied up for 2.5 years on this machine.
Let him sell the damned thing! the market will decide what it's worth...
Your scalping argument is ridiculous and has no place in this FS thread.

glws....plungemaster what is ailing you?

wow i just made 9000 pkp...woooo!

Yeah....but WHEN??

Only crack

hey we get the cops show up here too i know.

Do you realize that the WOZ pre-orders in the USA are 100% pre-paid? That means we have had between $6500 and $7500 tied up for up to 2.5 years. In the US and many other countries we have free markets such as stock markets. We buy something such as stock in a company with a risk/reward nature. It is part of capitalism. Many young college aged people look at such concepts as brutal to those that have little, but as they become older and more financially successful many come to appreciate how their hard work, planning, and decision making has paid off in terms of a better quality of life for themselves and their families.

Also, scalping of tickets is illegal in Holland, but I seriously doubt that goods are illegal to sell for higher prices, especially if they are goods that are non-essential items.

Hey check it out, its plungemaster's glory hole.

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Hahahaha, now that is a nice joke. I only saw that used on zillion forums.

Good for you.

Tom i really thauht you could handle this by yourself, did not know you needed all those smeagols to help you. How pathetic...

I doubt it. I get the sense that he (Plungemaster) is a young utopian that resides in a commune, and you (Tom) on the other hand appear to be in touch with reality.

I told you a billion times not to exaggerate!

Im pretty sure he meant to say a brazillian.

Come on guys, the stand up comedian quality is to much. You guys are so funny its unbelievable.

You guys should do something with that.

Until you donate to pinside, you are worse then a scalper. Plenty of us have made money on a pinball machine on pinside and don't need to be compared to guy standing outside a sold out concert. Either donate or don't expect any of us to care what you say.

First it's obvious you can't afford this pin or any Woz. If you were told over and over its coming airport then it doesn't you might want your money back to. Plenty people are getting out and you single out Tom. As much as I despise JJP I think you are off your rocker. Why notget mad when a mm sells for 10 grand plus is it any different.

I feel so dumb for even responding to you but my feeling soon as everyone adds you to ignore you will be talking to yourself very soon. Not than none is listening, Tom wants Metallica or his money back and has not done a thing to deserve your immature outburst. Go get laid or get a job so you can afford this pin you highly covet so much. Your a joke and a waste of good bandwidth.

Best of luck Tom shame you can't sell your machine without being harassed for no damn reason. Like you peed in his corn flakes when in fact you did not.

Dang Starbase don't pull punches tell him how you really feel

You are correct! He's shitting up another thread as well. Ignore-Time!

I am currently looking to buy a tangible WOZ. I was not willing to risk $6500 3 years ago for a pin today. Those that did were(hopefully) rewarded for their patience. I would rather pay a premium now for a guaranteed pin than to take such a risk. This is different from a giant stubhub type outfit who buys up all the tickets to a concert or sporting event a month before it takes place with an unfair insider advantage and essentially corners the market. If JJP went belly up a year ago all the pre-orders would be out $6500. But I'm 99.99% sure that the next super bowl will take place and big sports scalpers will have a guaranteed profit. So, yes there may be a few scalpers like automated services that I think was totally uncool, but that is the exception to the rule.

Plungemaster... the OP can ask what ever he wants. I say good luck to him on his sale.

Dude, you need to step aside and shut the front door!

goo luck with your sale, tom

Wait, who took the risk? Jack did? LOL! Just whose money do you think he's been spending?

Risk is like going to war? Guess no one from Holland has taken any risks since the 1800's then

First I just thought you couldn't spell (aka dumb).... Now I think you're just a little crazy

Selling for a profit is not allowed in Holland?

Comical.

The country that essentially invented the stock market and gave us the Dutch India Trading Companies?
The country that practically invented the free market and was built on merchant capitalism?

So, what, Soccer ticket scalping is illegal in holland and that somehow equates to this?

I think your understanding of "scalping" is on par with your understanding of "risk (RISC)"

These guys would be ashamed of you: image.jpg

What the world needs is a good $8000.00 pinball machine.......

Let me publicly submit my offer of $7300 cash. It's better than the $6500-$7000 you will get when these hit the market.

GLWS Tom. You seem like a nice guy and thanks for responding to my emails.

plungemaster apparently does not have the logical comprehension abilities to understand that Tom has owned this game for over 2 years! That is not scalping, figure it out and then piss off.

Tom never bought this game with the intention of selling it for a profit on the contrary Tom is a super nice guy and would more likely hook a friend up then look for profit ever!

It is very simple, many folks are tired of the wait. They have owned a game for over 2 years and still have not had a chance to play it. Makes perfect sense to sell now at current market and possibly buy a WOZ at a later date.

GLWS Tom, hopefully this still means you are having a party, just no longer a WOZ party ;(

Dude, stop talking, seriously.

^really classy move^

Just a thought but don't you think it would be more appropriate to PM the OP with this crap instead of projectile vomiting it onto his FS thread?

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Let me publicly say that if 6500-7000 is the "market price" down the road then the economy has tanked and/or the pin bubble busted and every POS you own with be about 2K (except Lotr of course)

Keepin it classy

Wow! What a complete trainwrecked FS thread.

Congrats on the sale.

Do they ever end up any other way?

Definitely! Congrats on the sale...

Nicely done Tom, you going for a Metallica now? I just got home from playing a Pro version at a local game supply place.

What's it looking like Flanker?........

Hard to say, it was setup in a showroom with lots of overhead lights and lacked cranking audio with no powered subwoofer. I cracked 52million my first time ever playing it, seems a little easy per factory settings. Ill stick with my Marvel/movie themes that I like, artwork is awesome on it though for sure!