If anyone else is interested in ordering a set of screens let me know. I'm going to be placing the order with the screen printer Monday and need to get a final number.
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Lakeville, MN
Matt and his buddy James just finished shooting video of me screening the text. (Coming soon to a theater near you.)
Interestingly enough, we compared Grover's screen to Matts and Matt pointed out the difference. It seems there's no font that matches the original. Matt thinks it was maybe hand drawn. While Grover's looks damn nice, all of the points on letters, like on a T, are sharp instead of rounded like they should be. And if you look at the exclamation points in the top section, they were not originally centered in the triangles. They were just put where they were put. Matt also pointed out, not all R's are the same and the same goes for other letters.
Matt still won't tell me how many hours he spent on this project but it involved a ton. Thankfully, there are goofy bastards around like Matt to take on projects like this.
Vancouver
Quoted from merfeldma:With the goal of completing some restorations this summer the one thing that my games have been lacking is a completely redone backbox. After researching stencil kits which are one time use only and time consuming with variable results I decided to go all out and silk screen.
The artwork was scanned in and vectored to match the original exactly in Illustrator. I decided to separate the larger Warning from the small Patent portions for a few reasons. When the two are combined on a larger screen the rails on the back need to be removed and the larger portion would need to be completely blocked off. With the two separate ones cleaning is much easier and no blocking of the screens is necessary.
My two sample test screens were completed this week and with the assistance of Bryan Kelly he was able to give me his critiques and tested them out, with pictures to follow.
Since I know some people have the larger screen I will be offering the small Patent screen available separately for those interested. The silkscreens are stretched over an aluminum frame that will never warp or lose tension, which can happen with a wooden frame. With proper cleaning after each screening these should last indefinitely.
For those interested, you can send payment to my paypal account at [email protected]. Be sure to include what items you want, along with your address, and pinside account name so I can mark you down.
Warning and Patent Screens $250 + $20 shipping/handling US
Warning Screen only $200 + $20 shipping/handling US
Patent Screen only $80 + $10 shipping/handling US
Two squeegees for screens $50
Payment sent!
Moe
Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:goofy bastards around like Matt
See Matt, I'm not the only one who thinks you're a gb.
Quoted from crank:See Matt, I'm not the only one who thinks you're a gb.
My wife agrees. BTW, the screen print turned out really nice on her back today.
Quoted from merfeldma:My wife agrees. BTW, the screen print turned out really nice on her back today.
So...where did you put the patent screen?
Not the best photo, but here is a shot of the screening Bryan did on jathomp22 FH head he donated for us to work with today. Video soon to follow of the complete tutorial. Special thanks to Bryan for taking time out of his morning and my friend James for driving an hour and filming everything.
Sunday bump, I'll be giving the final number to the printer tomorrow so I can get screens out soon to everyone who has paid. This will be the last day to get a screen if you want one from this batch. If I get enough PM messages in the future I may get more made, but this is your best shot if you need one.
Wondering if there are any more people interested in Australia? Seems shipping is insanely high so perhaps a few would want to get together to split the shipping costs.
If you still want to jump in send payment in by 4PM Central time Monday before I head to the printer.
Tutorial video has been posted http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/wpc-backbox-warning-screen-printing-tutorial-with-bryan-kelly#post-916117
I'll be working on a System 11 screen this weekend. PM if you would like more info when I'm finished.
1 week later
Many of the orders for the screens shipped out Monday. I anticipate getting many more out this weekend in the order they were paid for. Once I ship your orders you will receive an email from Paypal with the tracking information. Good luck printing to all those who ordered, if you have any questions please feel free to PM me and I will try to guide you through it.
got mine yesterday and looks good, didn't use it yet but I'm sure it will work fine. The aluminum frame should ensure it lasts a long time, good job!
got mine. Looks good and thanks!
If any of the local Madison guys ever need to use it for a project just LMK.
Quoted from merfeldma:With the goal of completing some restorations this summer the one thing that my games have been lacking is a completely redone backbox. After researching stencil kits which are one time use only and time consuming with variable results I decided to go all out and silk screen.
The artwork was scanned in and vectored to match the original exactly in Illustrator. I decided to separate the larger Warning from the small Patent portions for a few reasons. When the two are combined on a larger screen the rails on the back need to be removed and the larger portion would need to be completely blocked off. With the two separate ones cleaning is much easier and no blocking of the screens is necessary.
My two sample test screens were completed this week and with the assistance of Bryan Kelly he was able to give me his critiques and tested them out, with pictures to follow.
Since I know some people have the larger screen I will be offering the small Patent screen available separately for those interested. The silkscreens are stretched over an aluminum frame that will never warp or lose tension, which can happen with a wooden frame. With proper cleaning after each screening these should last indefinitely.
For those interested, you can send payment to my paypal account at [email protected]. Be sure to include what items you want, along with your address, and pinside account name so I can mark you down.
Warning and Patent Screens $250 + $20 shipping/handling US
Warning Screen only $200 + $20 shipping/handling US
Patent Screen only $80 + $10 shipping/handling US
Two squeegees for screens $50
Got mine Tuesday and much thanks Matt!! Any of the $50.00 pair of squeegees left??
Chad
Where are you guys buying your ink from? Matt said to get it through Artdoggie.com, but I'm not finding the 59234 Medium Yellow that Bryan recommended.
I had looked a while back when I was getting ready to order. I never did end up ordering yet so I'm wondering what other people think.
The 59-234 was 3x the price of the 59-134 so I'm curious to know whether anyone tried the lower cost stuff...
Quoted from Jazman:I had looked a while back when I was getting ready to order. I never did end up ordering yet so I'm wondering what other people think.
The 59-234 was 3x the price of the 59-134 so I'm curious to know whether anyone tried the lower cost stuff...
The medium yellow that artdoggie has is a perfect match. The numbers are just slightly off for the part number, but it's the same color as before. Bryan Kelly and I are both using the newer part number.
Quoted from ABT12:Received the set of screens today. Great job Matt!
Thanks, I'm really pleased with how they turned out. I spent a lot of hours staring at a computer screen to make sure I got the image as perfect as possible. I know how anal some of these pinball guys can get.
Quoted from Skypilot:Just received mine today,They look fantastic. Top notch work Matt.
Glad you're satisfied with the screens
Quoted from merfeldma:If enough people would be interested I could see about getting squeegees included with the set once I find out what it would cost.
PM sent!
Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:For anyone looking for the real deal, this is it. Matt and I compared his screens to the originals, and they are about as close to original as you're going to get. The first pic is the screen itself and the second pic shows how particular Matt was in recreating these. Most people wouldn't know the words "never" and "always" are bold compared to the rest of the text.
Can't wait for the DIY video on this Bryan! Thanks for your help with this! 
One thing that I have found necessary to succeed with these is a bit of space between the cab and screen. I put sticky felt squares in the corners and it keep the screen sharp that way.
Scott
Quoted from WeirPinball:One thing that I have found necessary to succeed with these is a bit of space between the cab and screen. I put sticky felt squares in the corners and it keep the screen sharp that way.
Scott
Taping nickels to the back of the frames will give the perfect spacing.
Quoted from merfeldma:Taping nickels to the back of the frames will give the perfect spacing.
Be careful - you could possibly scratch the surface you just spent all that time prepping.
Two layers of masking tape over the nickels works like a charge. You can, of course, use anything you want as spacers.
Quoted from WeirPinball:Be careful - you could possibly scratch the surface you just spent all that time prepping.
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2 weeks later
Also two sets of System 11 screens still.
http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/fs-williams-system-11-backbox-warning-silk-screen
4 weeks later
Barnstaple
Quoted from RudeDogg1:What thread count silk do you use for these?
For enamel inks, I find that 230 thread count works best.
I'm stopping by my printer later this week. If anyone would like a set of screens (WPC or Sys 11) send me a PM and I get get more ordered.
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