What number ACDC Back in Black is in the box?Thanks Dave

Mine was 280...

#163 here in the UK!

Lets not derail the OPs for sale thread, please.

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I'm kind of suprised this is still available as it's a hot title. Is the flood of Premium ACDC's causing the market on the LE's to soften?

I'm guessing there aren't a lot of people willing to pay a $3,000 premium for a game that plays the exact same and yet has a fu**ed up lower playfield window.

Yea, it's been a whole week! Crazy long time!
Have you seen one lower? If so, where?

What's the price record on BIB NIB as far as what is known? I always like to see people succeed in trying to sell their wares, but one of the posters here makes a lot of sense. A $3000 premium for a game with no additional features except a shaker motor, but with a cloudy lower PF window. It would certainly be a reason for pause for me. Then again, any game at this price level would be. Like many others here, while I could technically afford it, the ramifications would be too much to take, namely explaining it to my wife.

Maybe, just maybe, some sanity is returning to the market!! AC/DC is a good game, but I'm sorry, just not worth $9K IMO in any version.

Oooooh and that's a mod sayin' that sh*t ...not even ME this time!

I'd buy it for that price if I didn't already have one. My mini window isn't very blurry compared to my buddies premium that looks horrible! If people pay $12K for a MM,than $9K for a BIBLE NIB is a good deal!

Hey before this thread gets all F'd up, I just wanna say that Jim's a good dude! Buy with confidence!

Knowing what I know now, I'd buy at the pre - order price. Or trade + cash more like.

But with all the great games out there now, paying such a premium for the art package and collectibility is too much for me. No doubt someone will pay eventually. BIBs are gorgeous. Good Luck!

LOL! I was watching this thread, just waiting for the guys who own one to chime in and say it's a good deal etc. Good luck with the sale though. I believe these will start to become a tough sell with that lower play field though. That's one of the main reasons I got rid of my premium. It had the "cloudy" lower play field window. When the market is saturated with clear ones... who is going to buy a cloudy one? But if it's a BIB or LTBTR, at least it may have some sort of collectibility to a select few die hards.

Jim, looks like your best bet is to close this post and start it over and hope that some of these guys go away and find something better to do with their lives...

I wasn't trying to crap on Jim's thread. Actually I've spoken with him about other things and he's a really nice guy, I was just making an observation...

Have you tried selling through other outlets? RGP? MrPinball classifieds? Even E bay?

How much would a newer style lower pf go for? I've been watching these pins try to price out higher but that was before the newer lower pf re-design.

If it's been said once, it's been said a thousand times-- If you don't want your sale discussed, don't put it in a discussion thread. Just post it at the "Market" and be done with it. It looks like I've posted here about as much as you, so if it seems like I need to find something better to do with my life, you had better do the same.

People seem to come here for one of five reasons: 1. To post things for sale, 2. To discuss things for sale, 3. To brag, 4. To ask for help, 5. To bitch.

Please refrain from personal attacks.

Man, why is everyone so sensitive around here? If whatever you're selling can't withstand a couple of random internet people commenting on it then your expectations were probably pretty unrealistic to begin with.

Is Pinside here to help spread the joy of pinball, or help sellers make as much money as possible?

Pinside is here to get away from some of the crap that was going on over at rgp that many were complaining about. Now we are finding out (no surprise) its over here as well...

Let people post their stuff for sale without invading the post and giving reasons why a buyer shouldn't buy it, its just wrong!

It just looks like by some of these comments that its jealousy that is eating at some of you...

Great seller. I have 2 purchases from him. Buy with confidence.

I understand both sides of this issue. But, let's face it, this isn't some machine which the seller meticulously restored, or some extremely rare gem which was found.... it's a machine the guy paid $7k for a few months ago and is now asking $9k.

I think discussion of price is more relevant here, and negative posts are more tolerated, simply because of that. He can ask whatever price he wants, and people can posts relevant comments. But at the end of the day, it's a speculative flip. For full disclosure, teekee, aren't you trying to sell a BIBLE also?

I agree about sh$%ing on FS posts, BUT I think there's a different threshold for immediate NIB flips. Collectors have a right to discuss whether these price premiums for NIB flips is warranted. If the price is warranted, believe me it's been proven, no amount of negative discussion will deter a sale. If it did, Tron LEs would be $5k right now!

ACDC is a great machine, and he will sell the BIBLE for somewhere near his asking price and make a nice profit, no doubt about it.

The guy paid $7k??? And you know this how? And what does that even have to do with anything??? That's just another lame comment...

I'm beginning to see how Obama got re-elected...

True, he might have paid $6.7k. Or less or more? I don't know.

But yes, I think there is a difference in discussion of NIB speculative flips versus high-end restores or very rare games or your average machine being sold from a collection. That's just my opinion.

Yeah, Jim's a good dude, got my Tron from him

By all accounts, the seller is a great guy. However, to suggest that discussing the price is out of bounds is ridiculous.

With your irrational comments throughout this thread, your Obama comment kind of figures. I thought that this board was supposed to be apolitical.

Is this the f^(ked up window you guys are talking about ? This is my
Bib .

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I have #292. And my lower playfield looks good. Not cloudy.

The Dude bought a NIB to flip, plain & simple.

That is the ONLY reason a person buys a game & never opens it since players play their games.

No hard feelings to the seller, best of luck, but its clear what's happening here. If someone wants it bad enough they will gladly pay it. The rest of us... Well, we certainly won't.

Sounds like at least he's a trustworthy seller, a speculative pinball investor but not a person who will fail to deliver.

Free speech. Free market. If this guy is able to make $2,000.00 for nothing then we are able to discuss it. Otherwise put it on CL, eBay, MrPinball & the Pinside marketplace.

America!

What someone paid for a NIB Stern LE depends on:

Pre-Pre sale price where you pay 100% up front 3 months before delivery (look out, you may be getting an Avatar)
Pre sale price where you pay 100% up front 1 month before delivery (hype is building, price now higher)
Sale price where seller has one left and if you pay 100% you can come pick up in a week (price higher again)
Sale price where someone baled but Stern has now raised THEIR price so new price is higher still

I think the BIB LE's ranged from $6,600-$8,000 from the good distributors.

I agree with the cloudy window issue and I have a LTBR. I think it sucks to have paid that much for a game and for Stern to not be doing anything to rectify the issue. I was just at the Pinball Hall of Fame in Vegas and the window on theirs looks horrible from 1. Not being cleared right in the first place 2. Heavy use. I should have taken a picture, that thing looked bad.

http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/new-acdc-windows

MY LTBR is #177. With the lower playfield removed and looking through it from the bottom I cannot read the backglass. Thats how cloudy mine is. Having said that you can still see well enough to play, however a lot of people have commented on it not looking right. How much are replacement playfields?

Holy shit, that *is* f^(ked up! I'd dump that thing asap. Worthless piece of crap!

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Bump for Jim, in case anyone forgets what this post was really all about... wish these bone heads would start their own post... or go play in the street... or jump in a lake... or a swan dive off a 10 story building...

As others mentioned before, if something is posted in the marketplace sub-forum it is open for discussion. If it is posted in the marketplace http://pinside.com/pinball/market it is not open for discussion.

It's the same broken record when a Tron-LE, Black Spiderman, or BIBLE come up.. people just need to get over the fact that these pins draw a higher price. If you don't want one, please just move on!

Wait a sec.. he did nothing? You mean he DIDNT put his heard earned cash on the line to purchase a game that could have lost money? He DIDNT hold it until now? I just want to understand what he didnt do. If he is getting for $2,000 for nothing maybe you can get in on this somehow?

I know this guy down the block from me.. he has lots of cars and a huge house he got from doing nothing in the stock market.

haaha, well played

I have bought stocks in the past, then done nothing for a while, and sold the shares for a profit. I took a risk, timed things right, had good fortune, and made some profit. Similar to speculating in NIB pinball purchases I suppose.

Wish I had a BIB but I'm out of space and money for now.

Posting something to a forum and hoping people don't discuss it is like having an AA meeting at an open bar.

Another bump for Jim! Just another innocent Pinside bystander minding his own business offering up a great product at a great price and WHAM! mugged by the Pinside thugs...

Where's the moderator who moderates muggings?

Um thats what I said right? Free speech & **free market** followed by a well deserved "America!" Did that part get overlooked?

Did the seller put up his hard earned cash or a just a 0% credit card?

Did your neighbor put up his hard earned cash to invest or did he creatively leverage himself? Does he own those big ticket items or does he just have an equitable interest in a rapidly depreciating asset which he financed?

Did Smurfette wait until she was married?

Best of luck to the seller, seriously.

A moderator commented on the pricing, waaaah how dare he.

LOL, Seriously? I think you've already helped smash all hopes of this... but it a least you feel better I'm sure.