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FS: SMALLER LOT Sale 150 games-EM's/Woodrails/Pitch 'n Bats/etc-Bloomington,IL

By PPS

9 years ago


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#1 9 years ago

Update - due to popular demand we've broken the EM lots into smaller lots - also will be available to be viewed (BY APPOINTMENT) on Sat/Sun June 14/15 ... if interested contact [email protected]

Planetary Pinball as acquired a huge collection of over 400 pinball machines in Bloominton, IL (former collection of Gene Cunningham), the much of this collection is now for sale. We have split up the games into 10 lots (sorry, some of them just sold), but much is still available.

http://www.pinball.com/sale/games/index.html

There are pictures of most of them in the link above, and they have been grouped and will be sold in lots of them.

They will be available later this week for looking at as well as picking up, they are all located in Bloomington, IL. Most of them other than the Lot 10 are all setup.

Please contact [email protected] with your interests and any offers, as I (rick) have way too much going on so Matt is working on this portion of things.

thanks,
rick

#2 9 years ago

Wow..

#3 9 years ago

Wow indeed. This is one time where "Wish I were closer" actually means something.

#4 9 years ago

Holy shit I am close.

#5 9 years ago

Wow! Will there be a parts & backglass lot?

#6 9 years ago

Incredible.
And sad at the same time to see so many games sitting on shelves.
I'm glad PPS is curating the sell-off of Gene's collection.
Hopefully most of these games will get a second life from collectors and restorers out there.

#7 9 years ago
Quoted from Pbpins:

Wow! Will there be a parts & backglass lot?

For the initial phase it's the games only ... with the exception of about 20-30 Slot Machines as well as some Scopitones (collectable video jukebox players).

rick

#8 9 years ago
Quoted from PPS:

Gene Cunningham

Quoted from PPS:

Planetary Pinball

Wonder what direction this thread is going to go in...

#9 9 years ago

If anyone knows anyone who collects Scopitones ... let them know that we have some for sale (took me a while to figure out what a scopitone was!).

Also, there are about 10 or so Jukeboxes.

rick

#10 9 years ago

So this is what happens when you hoard things for a lifetime. That's an incredible amount of neat games!

What does it smell like in that warehouse?

#11 9 years ago

I can arrange my divorce real fast buy buying one or two of these lots. There are some machines that I'd love to have. For about a week or two and then I'd wake up saying WTF did I do that for?

#12 9 years ago
Quoted from Barron:

So this is what happens when you hoard things for a lifetime. That's an incredible amount of neat games!
What does it smell like in that warehouse?

And this isn't even HALF of what Gene had. Remember the auction back in 2001 ??

John P. Dayhuff
Battle Creek, Mi.
269-979-3836

#13 9 years ago

Guess we see what happened with the court case...

So, what happened with the molds that everyone was talking about?

#14 9 years ago
Quoted from Dayhuff:

And this isn't even HALF of what Gene had. Remember the auction back in 2001 ??
John P. Dayhuff
Battle Creek, Mi.
269-979-3836

Yea, This is what is left after they pulled a bunch of stuff 3 times.

#15 9 years ago

Glad its all older stuff, I would be in trouble if it was DMD era. Hope it all sells fast and gets in Collectors hands and the games get restored and used rather then just stashed away in a warehouse.

Joe(acejedi)

#16 9 years ago

Whomever bought lot 5, please contact me on HMM. I would like to buy before you ship the lot somewhere further away from me.

Also, fair warning to ANYONE buying these... They are not as advertised.
"Most of the games in lots 1-9 are in excellent
cosmetic shape and appear to be in good condition"

I went through the entire collection when Gene had his big sale and most of the decent stuff was taken at or before that time. Games are in unheated/cooled storage, many bought at previous auctions and never plugged in, many soaked in animal piss and rotting away. Hardly ANYTHING was in excellent cosmetic shape or even good condition.

Think active roof leaks and rotting for years to get a more accurate picture of what you should expect.

Fair condition with missing boards, broken game specific parts and in some cases hacked and falling apart would more accurately describe these lots of games.

BUYER BEWARE. These games are MUCH worse than implied in the ad!!!! Also VERY disappointed to see these describe the way they were!!!!!

#17 9 years ago

also, lot 10 is mainly firewood.

I suppose if you see something you really want then good luck.

Gene was offering the majority of the games in all lots at 1k to 2k per game (some at 3k or 5k for the rare or better condition but that stuff was bought up) and people who looked at them in the prime of the market passed at that time so it should tell you something about overall condition.

#18 9 years ago

Heh, Animal Piss; and many think WD-40 is bad for pins...

#19 9 years ago

Anyone know who bought lots 4, 5, and 6? Was it one buyer? Interested in a couple project machines, would buy as-is.

#20 9 years ago

Also worth mention that I was one of the last to go through the collection about 1.5 years ago (Jan or Feb? 2013) and all of the "good" stuff at that time is not in any of the lots currently pictured. That tells me it was either further picked over after I was there (slim pickings) or more likely the current seller cherry picked a truckload of anything that was worthwhile (some stuff at the room closest to the house was not as exposed to the environmental conditions and fared better but that stuff is not pictured now).

I will also repeat, expect to have MANY boards and game specific parts missing. I looked inside lots of these games and they WERE missing boards (I have no reason to lie about this and just trying to help people out).

I spent a full 14 hour day in the warehouse looking at and packaging games for transport. The games that left that day were the best of what was available and many of those were still very rough.

#21 9 years ago

There's a Baracorra there! Magic Castle!

#22 9 years ago
Quoted from Whysnow:

Also worth mention that I was one of the last to go through the collection about 1.5 years ago (Jan or Feb? 2013) and all of the "good" stuff at that time is not in any of the lots currently pictured. That tells me it was either further picked over after I was there (slim pickings) or more likely the current seller cherry picked a truckload of anything that was worthwhile (some stuff at the room closest to the house was not as exposed to the environmental conditions and fared better but that stuff is not pictured now).
I will also repeat, expect to have MANY boards and game specific parts missing. I looked inside lots of these games and they WERE missing boards (I have no reason to lie about this and just trying to help people out).
I spent a full 14 hour day in the warehouse looking at and packaging games for transport. The games that left that day were the best of what was available and many of those were still very rough.

#23 9 years ago
Quoted from Whysnow:

Also worth mention that I was one of the last to go through the collection about 1.5 years ago (Jan or Feb? 2013) and all of the "good" stuff at that time is not in any of the lots currently pictured. That tells me it was either further picked over after I was there (slim pickings) or more likely the current seller cherry picked a truckload of anything that was worthwhile (some stuff at the room closest to the house was not as exposed to the environmental conditions and fared better but that stuff is not pictured now).
I will also repeat, expect to have MANY boards and game specific parts missing. I looked inside lots of these games and they WERE missing boards (I have no reason to lie about this and just trying to help people out).
I spent a full 14 hour day in the warehouse looking at and packaging games for transport. The games that left that day were the best of what was available and many of those were still very rough.

You spent a full 14 hour day inspecting the lots and left with nothing ?.... Lookie lou! The owner must of been furious! Haha

#24 9 years ago

The good news is that anyone serious if can choose can come by and look at the games, and decide. Yes, it is certainly good that these games are getting out of there and be in the hands of active collectors. Many of the games I saw were in good cosmetic shape, as they have rarely been played and the playfields and cabinets appeared to have generally less wear than 'usual' and given that none of them have not been plugged in for a long time, I would expect they would have to be gone thru. Of course I wish they were stored in a better environment and it's good that we can get them out of there! They are what they are, and we figured out what we thought to be fair guidelines for the lot prices, which may be high or low. There are many stories we could tell about this one ...lol

#25 9 years ago

I also agree that all if the really rare stuff is not in those lots and I know it had some really good stuff!

#26 9 years ago

Having said that, all those items could have been long gone before all of this .

#27 9 years ago
Quoted from LouisXV:

You spent a full 14 hour day inspecting the lots and left with nothing ?.... Lookie lou! The owner must of been furious! Haha

I'm sure Gene thought he had gold stored away and priced them accordingly.

#29 9 years ago
Quoted from LouisXV:

You spent a full 14 hour day inspecting the lots and left with nothing ?.... Lookie lou! The owner must of been furious! Haha

Plenty of games left that day, but none i was willing to buy at the prices gene was asking. I helped load the big size box truck with some rare stuff.

#30 9 years ago
Quoted from PPS:

The good news is that anyone serious if can choose can come by and look at the games, and decide. Yes, it is certainly good that these games are getting out of there and be in the hands of active collectors. Many of the games I saw were in good cosmetic shape, as they have rarely been played and the playfields and cabinets appeared to have generally less wear than 'usual' and given that none of them have not been plugged in for a long time, I would expect they would have to be gone thru. Of course I wish they were stored in a better environment and it's good that we can get them out of there! They are what they are, and we figured out what we thought to be fair guidelines for the lot prices, which may be high or low. There are many stories we could tell about this one ...lol

Based on what any rational collector would see, all your prices are VERY high. You strategically were vague in your wording and put together packages for a reason. 1 or 2 salvageable games in each lot, 1 or 2 rare ones in a lot, and a bunch of crap hoping someone would optimistically jump. It appears some did since many packages were sold in minutes. I have numerous videos and pictures of the games as they stood when i was there and they were mostly junk then. Many of the better titles were worn to wood. It would have taken all 3 centaurs there at the time to make working game.

#31 9 years ago

Apparently all 3 centaurs sold before this because we don't have any

The great news is that we have pictures of every game, we have a way for interested parties to come and see the games before they buy, and we have a reference price for each lot.

And ... we will get these games into much healthier places where they can be enjoyed again.

rick

#32 9 years ago

I've seen a warehouse like this before. Probably many of them are destined to just sit there in storage never to be restored/parted out/shopped & played. Destined to sit in a warehouse for eternity instead of being in an owner's rec room, or an arcade.

#34 9 years ago

I was at Gene's place back ~2008 during one of his sales. While I don't remember any games with animal piss, they were stored in an environment that lacked climate control. My recollection is that most of the games had a heavy mildew smell and I saw a lot of surface rust on metal playfield parts. In talking with Gene, I was under the impression most games were untested and probably needed work. I passed on a $400 Medusa due to the smell.

#35 9 years ago

In 2013 animals were actively living in the warehouse.

I just hope people that have bought these lots are not paying before seeing and also not wasting large amounts of money to arrange travel and transport.

I am all for these games getting into the hands of happy buyers that want to bring them back to life, but don't think it was correct to advertise them anywhere close to how they are. These are picked over beat turds with a few possibly restorable games that are worth it.

Were any BBBs or the last remaining WizardBlocks kit still around? I figured they all sold before the court got involved.

#36 9 years ago
Quoted from herbertbsharp:

Wonder what direction this thread is going to go in...

Yeah, most of the "wows" so far have been about the pins for sale, without any reference to what else this actually means.

BBBr anyone?

Or better yet, King Pin?

#37 9 years ago
Quoted from RobT:

Yeah, most of the "wows" so far have been about the pins for sale, without any reference to what else this actually means.
BBBr anyone?
Or better yet, King Pin?

good job captain obvious

BTW, I told everyone this would happen a while back...

#38 9 years ago

Thanks for Rick offering this up.....You guys would bitch if you were hung with a golden rope!!!.

Its old pinball machines, sold at old pinball machines prices. Considering alot of area's I got some of my collection; this looks pretty good.

#39 9 years ago

Wow, inside a hoarder's paradise! Very interesting.

So, I looked at all the pictures and looks like most of the cherry titles went early? I was looking for classic Gottlieb single player wedgeheads - hardly any there so either he didn't have any or someone got lucky early.

And who bought the Kingpin and BBB rights????

#40 9 years ago
Quoted from Whysnow:

In 2013 animals were actively living in the warehouse.
I just hope people that have bought these lots are not paying before seeing and also not wasting large amounts of money to arrange travel and transport.
I am all for these games getting into the hands of happy buyers that want to bring them back to life, but don't think it was correct to advertise them anywhere close to how they are. These are picked over beat turds with a few possibly restorable games that are worth it.
Were any BBBs or the last remaining WizardBlocks kit still around? I figured they all sold before the court got involved.

I think u got your point across no need to say it over and over. Good luck to all involved

#41 9 years ago

Man Gene was a hoarder... it's a shame to see games go like that.

Very cool Rick was able to jump in and salvage them for collectors to re-store / enjoy. Hopefully "more" will come to those of us waiting.

#42 9 years ago

So Rick, you gonna let Kingpin buyers have first dibs on their matching BBB numbers?

#43 9 years ago
Quoted from Classic_Stern:

Thanks for Rick offering this up.....You guys would bitch if you were hung with a golden rope!!!.
Its old pinball machines, sold at old pinball machines prices. Considering alot of area's I got some of my collection; this looks pretty good.

You do realize that Rick is doing nothing more than flipping these lots of games?

If he had not bought up everything it was going to public auction where everyone would have had the ability to buy the few games they were interested in with less risk and greater reward.

People also would have been able to inspect all the games in person before jumping in with an offer.

Banks like dealling with one lump sum buyer and logic would say that rick bought the games as parts of the bigger package to get the capcom rights and some of the other B/W parts he wanted. He likely cherry picked what few ones were left of the already picked over collection and now needs to get rid of the rest to help decrease the upfront lump sum payment to the bank. The bank also likely wants this crap gone ASAP.

Rick is a very smart businessman and he bought these and packaged them into lots and timed out the announcement of the sale very strategically. Most lots are now sold and buyer have not even seen the games.

I am repeating myself as I saw these games in person and would feel bad for buyers that possibly don't really realize what they are getting into. The ad is less than truthful of condition and worded very methodically to get your hopes up on a game so you will take a risk. It is like the perfect example of how to maximize sale price on ebay of a popular or rare game that is in bad condition >> few pictures, and optimistically nice condition wording, but build in caveats that you really don't know and games are "as-is". It is all about the psychology of the sale.

If any buyers need me to look through my videos and pictures of specific games to see if I have better shots of what actual condition is then I am happy to do so. It may help some to get a better idea of what they are puchasing and if it is really worth the travel and shipping costs.

#44 9 years ago
Quoted from Whysnow:

In 2013 animals were actively living in the warehouse.

Animals can have active lives, too, man.

#45 9 years ago

Good luck with the sale, I think its good they are getting back out there regardless of condition and if nothing else more parts available. Keep the business going Rick and keep reproducing the games people want even if I can't afford them it helps the hobby in my mind.

#46 9 years ago

I'm really surprised that this thread hasn't exploded. The implications here are huge.

#47 9 years ago
Quoted from Whysnow:

good job captain obvious
BTW, I told everyone this would happen a while back...

You and a few hundred other Pinsiders.

#48 9 years ago

your sarcasm meter is off Rob...

#49 9 years ago

so the only question is KP or BBB???

#50 9 years ago
Quoted from Whysnow:

so the only question is KP or BBB???

PPS packed up a BBB at TPF.

I'd prefer KP though.

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