Medieval Madness
Williams, 1997Quoted from 85vett:Now that right there is funny. Made my day and I seriously did laugh out load.
The funniest thing about it was I looked at that picture for ten seconds trying to figure out why one was discolored too...I'd love to blame that on my phone but it was just a total brain fart...
Quoted from TigerLaw:The funniest thing about it was I looked at that picture for ten seconds trying to figure out why one was discolored too...I'd love to blame that on my phone but it was just a total brain fart...
So you thought it had two shooter lanes too?
Wish I could, but my money is tied up in the MMr, and the gap in price is just a bit too much for me to go to the trouble of attempting to get a refund. Anyway, someone will be happy to get it. I'm sure you've enjoyed having it. Best of luck.
Quoted from SuperPinball:Hey guys sorry I opened a can of worms here. I meant to say that this game is so beautifully restored, perfect in every way, worthy of drooling fits that it reminds me of the HEP restored Pinballs.
There no more conflict. BTW pm sent to HEP because I want one.
Good, glad to see you got your lawyer to re-word your original post. That'll teach you to post with out seeking legal advice next time. 
Nice MM BTW. Glws. If it was a little closer it would be mine.....
Quoted from 85vett:Made my day and I seriously did laugh out load.
Wow, I don't think I've ever laughed that "loud".
Quoted from RobT:So you thought it had two shooter lanes too?
Two shooter lanes are needed for multiballs
Quoted from 85vett:I seriously did laugh out load.
Quoted from RonB:Wow, I don't think I've ever laughed that "loud".
Sounds painful!
Quoted from Lord_RyGuy:I'd LOVE this game. I'm willing to trade what I have for it. Are you in need of a kidney?
No kidneys as yet... a little cash would work though. 
Quoted from 85vett:Now that right there is funny. Made my day and I seriously did laugh out load.
Man, your killin me with that avatar, keep thinkin that my page isn't loading all the way.
Quoted from scott_freeman:bump for a nice machine.
too bad the MMr gold won't look this nice.
$8000 + $1000 for brass plating and it looks this nice.
Quoted from TigerLaw:This is not a debate on HEP. Drop the subject of HEP in this thread everyone...unless you are actually going to go into detail about technical differences.
It was a mere comparison to an hep restore, then Chris had to chime in. Hey HEP, relax. 
Touchy much?
Quoted from underlord:It was a mere comparison to an hep restore, then Chris had to chime in. Hey HEP, relax.
Touchy much?
It was off the mark so yes I did need to chime in. No need to bring HEP into the mix on the post
. Praise the game. Jerk the guy off you won't hear from me but say that it looks like I did it yet it is something I would be ashamed of then yes I will comment.
That makes me touchy?
Quoted from underlord:It was a mere comparison to an hep restore, then Chris had to chime in. Hey HEP, relax.
Touchy much?
I don't think so. Someone said - "The machine looks like it was done by HEP" and all he did was chime in and say "No it doesn't. "
It's a nice example of an original game but it's not even close to a HEP game. He could have easily picked apart the things that aren't up to his standard but he just cleared the air that it wasn't done by him.
Inline with the request of not going into it without talking about the differences I'll oblige a few things:
- The black bottom of the cab. HEP keeps them natural.
- The wiring. This one is clean but a HEP is much more organized
- Switch/coil harnesses being labeled. Works but is not something you'd see on a HEP
- Cabinet - Lines are nice but not nearly as sharp as a HEP cab. Same with the decals.
- PF - Looks to be a stock repo. A HEP has several adjustments/fixes made plus a High end clear job.
- Brackets/silver hardware. A HEP is replated/ polished. These are cleaned up and more factory looking.
None of this is saying it's not a nice machine. Just a handful of reasons I have no issues with him piping in and answering to that comment.
***edit - Looks like he responded while I was typing. I'll leave my comments anyways.***
Quoted from underlord:It was a mere comparison to an hep restore, then Chris had to chime in. Hey HEP, relax.
Touchy much?
What an idiotic thing to say.
Quoted from 85vett:I don't think so. Someone said - "The machine looks like it was done by HEP" and all he did was chime in and say "No it doesn't. "
It's a nice example of an original game but it's not even close to a HEP game. He could have easily picked apart the things that aren't up to his standard but he just cleared the air that it wasn't done by him.
Inline with the request of not going into it without talking about the differences I'll oblige a few things:
- The black bottom of the cab. HEP keeps them natural.
- The wiring. This one is clean but a HEP is much more organized
- Switch/coil harnesses being labeled. Works but is not something you'd see on a HEP
- Cabinet - Lines are nice but not nearly as sharp as a HEP cab. Same with the decals.
- PF - Looks to be a stock repo. A HEP has several adjustments/fixes made plus a High end clear job.
- Brackets/silver hardware. A HEP is replated/ polished. These are cleaned up and more factory looking.
None of this is saying it's not a nice machine. Just a handful of reasons I have no issues with him piping in and answering to that comment.
***edit - Looks like he responded while I was typing. I'll leave my comments anyways.***
You are exactly right in my eyes and no one knows more about HEP and HEP games than me.
The seller has a nice game and it is nothing against it. I just didn't like being brought in and quite frankly misrepresented in the mix.That is all.
There are certain people with agendas and axes to grind that take these post as opportunities to try to grind me down but it is just foolishnes .
Quoted from High_End_Pins:Praise the game. Jerk the guy off you won't hear from me but say that it looks like I did it yet it is something I would be ashamed of then yes I will comment.
That makes me touchy?
Considering the language you're using, yea, a bit touchy. Chill out; the guy saying it looked HEP was probably trying to compliment both the game and your work.
Quoted from metallik:Considering the language you're using, yea, a bit touchy. Chill out; the guy saying it looked HEP was probably trying to compliment both the game and your work.
Ok Larry .You are one of the people I was refering to Lol!
The language I am using?
Quoted from TigerLaw:This is not a debate on HEP. Drop the subject of HEP in this thread everyone...unless you are actually going to go into detail about technical differences.
In before the lock!
Quoted from High_End_Pins:Jerk the guy off
Quoted from High_End_Pins:That makes me touchy?
You sort of need to be, don't ya think?
Quoted from High_End_Pins:It was off the mark so yes I did need to chime in. No need to bring HEP into the mix on the post
. Praise the game. Jerk the guy off you won't hear from me but say that it looks like I did it yet it is something I would be ashamed of then yes I will comment.
That makes me touchy?
Yep.
Quoted from centerflank:You sort of need to be, don't ya think?
Yes I guess so
Quoted from High_End_Pins:It was off the mark so yes I did need to chime in. No need to bring HEP into the mix on the post
. Praise the game. Jerk the guy off you won't hear from me but say that it looks like I did it yet it is something I would be ashamed of then yes I will comment.
That makes me touchy?
No but it makes you sound like a dickhole
Post edited by moderator: 2 hour thread ban no personal attacks please.
Well then you put 14 years of your life in this and provide the level of service and documentation I have and see what you think then.
It is easy to think that way when it isn't your efforts that are diminished.
I made a simple comment and it is clear anyone that took issue with it is just looking to grate me.
Quoted from cscmtp:No but it makes you sound like a dickhole
As I said there are people with axes to grind that chime in on these things. You and Metallik should get a room.
Quoted from High_End_Pins:Well then you put 14 years of your life in this and provide the level of service and documentation I have and see what you think then.
It is easy to think that way when it isn't your efforts that are diminished.
I made a simple comment and it is clear anyone that took issue with it is just looking to grate me
Chris-quit playing around with Pinside and get busy with my game! 
Quoted from High_End_Pins:Well then you put 14 years of your life in this and provide the level of service and documentation I have and see what you think then.
It is easy to think that way when it isn't your efforts that are diminished.
I made a simple comment and it is clear anyone that took issue with it is just looking to grate me.
Im with HEP on this one, if I walked into a house and someone said the paint job looked as good as my company yet the wall color was edged up onto the ceiling like a sloppy pig, Id be appalled and nut punch them.
Quoted from High_End_Pins:As I said there are people with axes to grind that chime in on these things. You and Metallik should get a room.
Despite your comments, I truly have no beef with you. You do really good work and I'm sure you're nicer in person than you're acting in this thread. Don't take every comment so personally.
Quoted from metallik:Despite your comments, I truly have no beef with you. You do really good work and I'm sure you're nicer in person than you're acting in this thread. Don't take every comment so personally.
That is fine Larry.To you guys it is just a post here or there or a comment. To me it is much more.Again I didn't ask to be included in the thread.I didn't crush the game for sale. I just simply said it does not look like one of mine and certain people used it as fuel for fire.
It is absurb.
Jeez, he just said don't bring him into it. Maybe you don't realize its hard to build a brand name and recognition to the level of HEP, he has a right to say don't use his name unwarranted.
Quoted from metallik:Considering the language you're using, yea, a bit touchy. Chill out; the guy saying it looked HEP was probably trying to compliment both the game and your work.
Why is it that you have to make snide comments every single time an issue/comparison with HEP comes up?
You are known as the HEP troll.
Quoted from centerflank:Im with HEP on this one, if I walked into a house and someone said the paint job looked as good as my company yet the wall color was edged up onto the ceiling like a sloppy pig, Id be appalled and nut punch them.
Sheesh a junk punch just for a paint job critique 
your a hard ass Flank!
Quoted from Craig:Wish I could, but my money is tied up in the MMr, and the gap in price is just a bit too much for me to go to the trouble of attempting to get a refund. Anyway, someone will be happy to get it. I'm sure you've enjoyed having it. Best of luck.
This one has those special $3,000 coin mechs included though.... might want to think again....
But seriously, this VERY nice condition MM is the exactly the ones whose value take a beating vs MMr IMO.
Tough timing for the sale- but good luck- its a beauty.
Quoted from neverahighscore:Chris-quit playing around with Pinside and get busy with my game!
He is busy, on mine I hope!
Quoted from Concretehardt:Sheesh a junk punch just for a paint job critique your a hard ass Flank!
Im a wall painting freak, it better look like the edging lines to the woodwork/ceiling were cut by a laser or its garbage.
The $50 tip I left with from the job I completed today says it all. 
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best of luck on the sale of this MM…..it is truly nice looking. Id personally rather buy an original MM, that way you can play it right away! 
Quoted from High_End_Pins:That is fine Larry.To you guys it is just a post here or there or a comment. To me it is much more.Again I didn't ask to be included in the thread.I didn't crush the game for sale. I just simply said it does not look like one of mine and certain people used it as fuel for fire.
It is absurb.
Hey, I'm feeling pretty golden that Chris was even part of my FS thread. 
Quoted from Fulltilt:Hey, I'm feeling pretty golden that Chris was even part of my FS thread.
I think it is a nice game for the asking price FWIW.I also wasn't looking to make the guy that made the intial comment feel bad .
Pretty much just didn't want to have my work represented out of context.
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