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New Braunfels, TX
Quoted from jimjim66:I haven't seen those yet. Has anybody got a picture on what that looks like? Are these like the wing nut screws inside a Williams head? I liked the hex wrench style coffin lock, and I'm sure this works just as well, but just don't know what it looks like.
Can it be easily converted like the lockdown bar and playfield support brackets that have been removed lately?
Here is a good luck with the trade bump. Iron Man is a fun game.
They are not good. I had a new Star Trek and had to Waller out the hole to get the screws to line up. Cross threaded the Allen head bolt. Pretty cheesy if ya ask me. Decent idea but poorly built by stern. Screws didn't line up worth a shit.
Chris Kruger
Quoted from Grinder901:How do you only have 125 plays? That's the craziest thing
No kidding. I put 125 on mine this week!
Quoted from teekee:I DEFINITELY relish that!!!!!!!!!!! Got anymore dorky polls?
Yeah, the next poll will be, how much did you lose on the resale of a game you bought from Teekee?
Funny how things change ...... I offered 5k to a guy here locally for a ironman stock and he was asking 6700 dls or best offer ..."lowball offers won't even get a reply" .....I didnt get a reply back for my 5k offer ..... Now I'm getting a nib ironman for 4750 delivered .... 
Quoted from ChadNC:I hope corners aren't cut but you know your not gonna have Churchill making the playfields.(Huge Difference)For those of you that don't know it shows up most prevelant in the shooter lane pics. Also the newer playfields are dimpling a lot more. Also hopefully they use a better plastics than what was on pins like Avengers. I had one, very cheaply made...
Popcorn popping.
WTF are you talking about??
Quoted from joemamma:They are not good. I had a new Star Trek and had to Waller out the hole to get the screws to line up.
What is the proper tool for hole wallering?
Just another fine example of why there needs to be a rule in place of people clogging up the For Sale threads with stuff. Pinside for some reason just thinks that this "discussion" is always ok.
The op needs to just put it on the Marketplace and not do one of these threads because it's just going to be some more complaining about pricing for the next 5 pages.
Quoted from eggbert52:WTF are you talking about??
My bad.... Bad info on playfied... As far as plastics, I didn't buy ST or Mustang but Avengers plastics were cheaply made. I thought they were thinner more flimsy. There was several issues with the pin out of the box. Just simply saying I hope the build quality increases.. Sorry to the op.
Tron was rerun, and pricing went back up after they sold out. I guess I wouldn't worry too much stretch, just play the game for a while and see what shakes out.
Quoted from ChadNC:My bad.... Bad info on playfied... As far as plastics, I didn't buy ST or Mustang but Avengers plastics were cheaply made. I thought they were thinner more flimsy. There was several issues with the pin out of the box. Just simply saying I hope the build quality increases.. Sorry to the op.
You may not like how the ramps are made but the plastic is no different than the plastic on any of their other pins. The plastics for the none ramp items are identical as well. If the plastics are cheap on AV then they are cheap on all Sterns.
Riddle this. How many Avengers or Transformers ramps have you seen that are broken? I've seen zero and heard of zero. Now how many one piece clear ramps have you seen broken? I've seen/ heard of dozens. Yes, the clear is better looking but for longevity I bet my AV and TF ramps last much LONGER than my AC/DC and ST ramps.
I got wind of the IM rerun before the announcement, was tempted to dump mine...but then I was reminded of the lame decals on Sterns now and how I'd rather have a screened original cabinet. If they made something special like an LE with special cut side armor or a mirrored back glass, I'd be pissed, but they didn't so all is good.
Ottawa, ON
Quoted from QuarterGrabber:Did this game ever sell/trade stretch?
Who's stretch, and what was he selling?
Quoted from jeffspinballpalace:Who's stretch, and what was he selling?
Quoted from Monarca1091:Funny how things change ...... I offered 5k to a guy here locally for a ironman stock and he was asking 6700 dls or best offer ..."lowball offers won't even get a reply" .....I didnt get a reply back for my 5k offer ..... Now I'm getting a nib ironman for 4750 delivered ....
Again I say, it's a great time for pinball!
Quoted from 85vett:You may not like how the ramps are made but the plastic is no different than the plastic on any of their other pins. The plastics for the none ramp items are identical as well. If the plastics are cheap on AV then they are cheap on all Sterns.
Riddle this. How many Avengers or Transformers ramps have you seen that are broken? I've seen zero and heard of zero. Now how many one piece clear ramps have you seen broken? I've seen/ heard of dozens. Yes, the clear is better looking but for longevity I bet my AV and TF ramps last much LONGER than my AC/DC and ST ramps.
YES! More Avengers disinformation exposed and shot down. Well done. Where are these "cheap" avengers plastics? They specifically made the plastics for AV to be cheaper than all their other games? Freaking preposterous.
The original IM ramps DO break, if you don't buy a protector. Many ramps do...but not Avengers or Transformers ramps. And they have printed art on them too! The flat earth society just doesn't get Avengers.
Tell Stern to INCLUDE the cliffy ramp protector on the IM remake....or make the ramps metal and three piece plastic like Avengers and they won't need to.
Quoted from TheFamilyArcade:YES! More Avengers disinformation exposed and shot down. Well done. Where are these "cheap" Avengers plastics? They specifically made the plastics for AV to be cheaper than all their other games? Freaking preposterous.
The assumption on Avengers and Transformers ramps being cheaper is based on the manufacturing process, and limiting the process to laser cutting of flat plastics. My understanding (I have programmed CNC laser machines in the past, and now work in injection molding) is that every game gets CNC cut flat plastics, if they are able to eliminate the process of traditional ramps and use flat plastics for the ramps, it will be a cost benefit to the manufacturer. That does not necessarily equate to a cheaper product, but the intent was likely to reduce the cost.
Quoted from PEN:The assumption on Avengers and Transformers ramps being cheaper is based on the manufacturing process, and limiting the process to laser cutting of flat plastics. My understanding (I have programmed CNC laser machines in the past, and now work in injection molding) is that every game gets CNC cut flat plastics, if they are able to eliminate the process of traditional ramps and use flat plastics for the ramps, it will be a cost benefit to the manufacturer. That does not necessarily equate to a cheaper product, but the intent was likely to reduce the cost.
It believe it was a design decision because Gomez wanted something different, that included artwork on the length of the ramp. Other designers haven't done it because it's not their design sensibility. Cutting and fabricating multiple pieces of plastic and screen printing them might be cheaper than vacuum forming thin plastic, but that's not obvious to me.
Some people really get their panties in a bunch about this specific thing, whereas I look at it as a non issue. It has no impact on the gameplay.
Quoted from eggbert52:Man, I wish they were.
If they really were, I'd have one sitting right next to my Judge Dredd. Just call me "cheap".
Quoted from TheFamilyArcade:It believe it was a design decision because Gomez wanted something different, that included artwork on the length of the ramp.
Yes, this is also true and it is close to what he has said publicly about the flat plastic ramps. You will likely never here anyone at Stern admit to the other reason for the design change. Manufacturing cost savings. I'm not knocking it. Those ramps are brilliantly engineered, they are like the ikea of pinball ramps.
Quoted from Erik:What is the proper tool for hole wallering?
Big drill bit!
Hammerdrill works best!
ha ha ha ha
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