I continue to sell more of my personal collection that I've accumulated in 23 years. Really hate to sell but I must. Both games work good, including multiball on centaur speech and so on. Over the years small repairs have been made. All original boards. They are in basicallly ready to restore condition. Playfield on centaur is pretty rough and on fathom it's pretty good. Cabinet is better on centaur and fathom has some checking. The cabinets are solid but will need small repairs, they are not rotten or anything. I've replaced some of the drop targets in them as well over the years. If you are serious please call me. I really prefer to sell these as a package. Pinside average price is 4100 on centaur and 4800 on fathom for just the games They come with top grade cpr playfields, and full plastic sets. I actually had two playfields for each game and kept the best ones and sold the extras. Obviously they are not installed. Sorry for the bad pics but they are beautiful. These games are awesome. I was going to get to them one day, but it looks like that won't happen. Moderators if not allowed please help me correct it. I tried to add a second game to listing but was unable to, I'm pinside dumb. I will gladly pay fees on both games if sold through Pinside. I will gladly answer any questions you have over the phone cell is ###-###-#### [phone number removed] asking $10,000 but I will also consider offers for what you feel comfortable with. I don't get offended easily. Prefer cash and carry but will ship if you handle the details. Feel free to comment, these are some of the best games Bally ever made, games are located in evart mi 49631 thanks Todd scott