Great Game

One last question...sorry, I am just so amazed at people on here.

I see X-MEN LE's and AVENGERS LE's advertised with LOW PLAYS (100 or 200) and think to myself "such a great game but the guy only played it 100 games"...that "really adds up".

Don't any of you use "common sense" and "figure it out". That makes NO SENSE. I played my one players condition Taxi about 100-200 plays the last few weeks since it was new and fun.

People either have played them and think "not for me" and that is alright but lets not call it a great game. Also, what were they doing buying them in the first place. Again, it was SPECULATION and NOTHING WRONG WITH IT.....just everyone stop "sugar coating it" and lets all be BIG BOYS and call it what it is in A LOT OF CASES. So when people don't like the LE's and go to sell them and they end up not being as popular take the BIG LOSS (which everyone likes the BIG GAINS...ask the BIBLE and Tron Pro LE owners) and move on. That was the RISK YOU TOOK.....

Everyone on here defends these games as great deals because of what people paid....well then EVERYONE NEEDS TO BASH every perspective TRON LE BUYER and BIBLE BUYER as they are having to pay THOUSANDS over what the person selling the game paid.....so they must be IDIOTS to pay that much over....again, it works both ways what SOMEONE PAYS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MARKET and everyone KNOWS THAT and if this HULK LE was such a great buy at $6,250 it would be GONE....period.

I never see one good deal stay long.....too many smart people on PINSIDE....sorry, but that is the facts.

Totally agree here. Me and another pinside buddy picked up a BSD in Houston for another friend of ours and went and set it up Friday. We (the three of us) put over 250 games on it Friday night (and into the early morning hours on Saturday). How someone could have a game for six months and only play it 100 times or so always makes me chuckle.

@joe...

well, he claims in another thread to have gone from zero to fifteen games since february... obviously, he thinks having a buying frenzy of his own classifies him as an "expert"...

Does anyone remember what this post was all about? Look above and if your a possible buyer contact Joe. If not move on! Joe is a great guy to deal with. I have dealt with him many times. Nice and easy...

Well, you own 61 games, so you are entitled to play each of them a little bit less

That's true, like a pack of vultures waiting to pounce on great deals, pinsiders!

That said, people on here know that a few NIB's went for 5995 on the Hulk LE and thus maybe think that is the new bar.....well, if I wanted this one, and it looks great, I love the green and like Avengers a whole lot better than Xmen (sorry Xmen guys) I wouldn't have any hesitation jumping on this at all or paying a few hundred extra, not worth the time or hassle to wait....

I'm just guessing that like myself, who has a lot of other undelivered pins in the queue , other people have the same issues and unlike Metallica, most everyone that wanted one got one from the beginning....

GLWTS!

Think your thread has officially been hijacked!

Nobody ever gets the point. Forget it.....if it sells this week $6,250 is a GOOD PRICE if not the people have spoken.

I just laugh as most PINSIDERS are VERY INTELLIGENT and know value. If this went up for $5K someone would pick it up in a second...why ??? Because they know it is below fair value.

Why can't people just admit so much SPECULATION is going on and I AM FINE WITH THAT....lets just all admit that these PINS are being treated like STOCKS and people are BETTING ON POPULARITY OF THEM was my point.

X-MEN and AVENGERS were bad stocks....so price paid means nothing. TRON LE and BIBLE were great stocks so price paid means nothing.

My only other point was NOBODY (or should I say few people) sell pins with a few plays if they truly think it is a GREAT PIN or if they think it will be worth A LOT MORE down the road....some will because some just have so much money they don't care (and that is fine) but most that are doing it either didn't like the pin OR they got caught and bought it to make money and see it going down so they want to buy another LE that might go up.....again, NOTHING WRONG WITH IT I just would love the PINSIDERS to admit THIS IS HAPPENING AND STOP FEELING SORRY for the ones selling and LOSING MONEY.....or at least then get Mad at the ones selling TRON LES for $3K more then they paid for them....

Personally, I don't care I am just amazed at the mentality from so many intelligent people who don't want to call the METALLICA LE purchases what they are in MOST CASES....PURE SPECULATION and if I am wrong you will not see half of them up for sale in less then a year after they were bought....so personally, I hope they drop 50% in value so the people that truly want the LE games to KEEP can get them next time. So all bash me for this but YOU ARE ALL SUPPOSE TO BE HOBBYISTS and so many have just used this HOBBY TO MAKE MONEY...which is ALRIGHT but if they LOSE just "suck it up" and everyone needs to stop falling back on "this is what I paid"....we all KNOW THAT MEANS SO LITTLE IN THIS HOBBY !!!

Confused, how is the market determined then? Just curious your take on it

I will add, even games priced well have slowed down some, everyone is blowing their load on new games it seems. I think the expectation that games have to sell in 3-5 days is somewhat unrealistic. It can take a couple weeks, just like selling a car, it's a lot of money, have to sell something to buy.

Any trade titles you are looking for?

Mk

Games in general. LOL @ the 250. We were playing 3 or 4 player games all night. So I count each players as a game. 75 or so games times three players and played for about ten hours. Was a blast. I could barely stand up yesterday. BSD is a pretty brutal game with short ball times.

Dude you know what would be awesome? If you put the Hulk next to the CV. Then, have like 12 beers and try and figure out which is which.

I actually agree with a good portion of what you say here (but not all of it), but more to the point: I think this type of stuff should be posted in another thread, not here in a FS thread.

You aren't even specifically discussing the value of this particular pin in this lengthy post. Time to move along, and take this up in one of the thousands of price threads out there.

Sorry, Joe.....unfortunately, the LE speculation as everyone should see with Metallica is truly getting bad and it is obvious to me (even being new) this is going to hurt the hobby.

Pinball machines have become like the STOCK MARKET and that is alright as long as people start to realize this. Who knows maybe I buy 10 Star Trek LE's and "take a shot" but at least I know it is speculation and I can lose $2K or more if the game stinks.

Good luck to you and it was just some comments that I found to be interesting from others and didn't mean to imply you bought it to make money (but most are was my point so when they lose so be it). The people that say "hey, only 100 plays" (which was not you) also make me laugh was my other point.

I just wish the people on this thread would just see what is going on and truly not condone it as well as I see so many members (will keep them nameless) that flip machines on here and everyone is fine with it and so am I but I see this HOBBY for what it is becoming and so should you and so many others....there are as many people in it to make money as there are that enjoy just playing the games....I didn't think that was what PINSIDE was about and probably not why it was started but now it is so accepted.

Nothing wrong with making money this is the USA.....people just need to understand they can lose it as well....these are now viewed as INVESTMENTS in my opinion more then TOYS....and that is fine as long as we all understand that but so many people are in DENIAL.

Good luck to you and my sincere apologies and the market will determine fair price as it always does....I watch the threads to help me determine value for when I buy just sometimes I can't control myself based on the comments I see. So many people upset they didn't get a Metallica LE just amazes me still....they saw it as "easy money" in my opinion and that is the only reason most of them got upset so we need it to drop 50% and take some of the "air out of the balloon" in my opinion.

I there a question here? Or just projectile vomiting of personal opinion
You are behaving like the guy that says "let me be honest" right before you sport some serial, chronic regurgitation of lies... nice.

IM DONE....again sorry. Just so many intelligent people on here and I have to believe the true HOBBYISTS can't all be happy with what is happening. This HOBBY is being invaded by a lot of the wrong types of people (just concerned with making money and not playing the pins) and that is going to greatly hurt is in my opinion.

NO MORE POSTS.....GOOD LUCK TO JOE !!! I owe him like 10 beers for messing up his post !!!

Hopefully, Metallica LE drops 50% and the true people who bought it to play it aren't going to care nearly as much as the people who just bought it to make money so ALL THE TRUE HOBBYISTS should be rooting for that or otherwise the same thing will happen with Star Trek and all the LE's and that is not good for the hobby !!

The reason my XM LE had only 150 plays was that the code sucked. I lost interest, even with latest code update. Lost over $1000 selling it but no point keeping it if I didn't like it. Didn't buy to speculate. Stern dropped the ball by taking so long with the code. With prices going up and up, doubt if I would pre-order again.

That's the disconnect among loyal X-Men owners. Doesn't matter what the code does, the game isn't great. I finally figured out why. When they put the spinner magnet and huge Wolverine figure within two inches of each other it entirely ruined lining up any shots in multi-ball.

A good player sees that as a challenge. It can be done often, and the new code is bringing this game right up to where it should have been when new. And there is not a premium version being made, so you need an LE to get the spinning disk etc.

Fun game, great price -- best of luck Joe.

Wow man these people are giving away such a great game at this price

I gotta think with 61 games there are at least 5 you could sell to get TAV style cash...and that can't hold a candle to TAV. What's the hurry? You may not even have discovered the game's charms yet. One of which are the shots. A good machine has you thinking about the shots and how good they feel to make. That makes you look forward to making those very shots. I've come across few machines that have that quality as much as Avengers.

There are many of us that have collected all of the " super hero " pins and don't plan selling them. Some I over paid, some under paid. Every one of the pins I paid a price that was fair to both parties.

GO AWAY

PM sent, and feel free to email me at [email protected] so we can finalize the details.

Pete

Great! PMWolf is a great dude who now's gonna add another awesome game to that sexy basement of arcade goodness.

Oh, and as for the fact that someone was calling the OP a "flipper" (reseller) is just ridiculous. He has over 60+ games in his collection, I wouldn't exactly say that's some guy filling his garage with games for "speculation"

I....need to have this put on a sign and hang it up in my basement somewhere.

Congrats to both Joe and pmWolf!

That what i got for mine,Never like that game and do not miss it.Love my XMLE and will never sell

You're gonna have a lot of fun with Avengers! Great pin!

Good job! That is a very nice looking game. I hope to find an avengers to play somewhere some day.

Congrats! Someone got a great GREEN MACHINE!

Way to go DrJoe. Great gesture to make a donation to Pinside as well. Congrats to both the seller and buyer.