I know, cargument... But I like this concept.

"If you were one of the lucky few selected to own a new Aston Martin Valkyrie hypercar, don’t even think about trying to flip your build spot for some extra cash. Aston Martin CEO Andy Palmer made it clear this week on Twitter that those trying to profit from selling reservation spots will be out of a car entirely."

https://www.motor1.com/news/152899/aston-martin-prohibits-valkyrie-flipping/

To the OP. I get the C++ reference in the thread title, if intentional, good job. Not variable assignment but a comparison assured statement.

Some people absolutely cannot see another point of view. They simply must proclaim it inferior, uninformed, or somehow misguided.

There’s a Bud Light commercial out there for you somewhere

Sounds like a case of "hoist on their own petard" if you ask me.

Perfect analogy.

All I can say is I’m glad I can’t afford an LE because it is a total shit show. Totally brings this hobby to a different level and it really is sad.

I'm with you brother.

I 100% agree this really brings my p*ss to a boil especially when it's a theme I absolutely love - and for some people that's really the selling point of them right? Not so much that you have "the shiniest thing", but if you are a rabid, raving Mandalorian or Star Wars fan for example wouldn't it bring you a little more joy to have an awesome LE machine - particularly if you love the way it looks?

However, I would also say that although this has happened to me - like several people mentioned - I ended up buying a premium, then effectively modding them so that they resemble or in some cases even surpass the LE model (and yep, sometimes premium artwork is actually better). You still get to play the same game as intended. My Iron Maiden and Ghostbusters premiums for example - are set up so nice now, I wouldn't swap them for LE's if you gave me cash on top.

No matter what though I still hate the practise - if anything, on principal it's just mean spirited?

Another level? How? There is more to pinball than LE pins. LE pins are designed to be hot collector's items and people that buy LE pins demand exactly this. If anything, it shows pinball is doing pretty well when there are that many people fighting over $10000+ pins. If Stern increased the LE number to a high number to match demand fans would be upset. If Stern increased the price or did a lottery system to try to cut out scalpers, fans would be upset. LE buyers want this game because they stand to benefit and it makes it exciting. If you don't want to play the game then buy something else. Simple as that.

This doesn’t seem any different than what happens with any limited collectible. There are people out there who are going to make a buck off of it. The Premium has the same features and just different art, right? Seems to me the answer is buy a Premium.

I’m not a fan of flippers either but with a hot limited collectible this stuff is going to happen.

My answer is simple, I don’t buy LEs. I haven’t even bought a NIB pin yet. My sweet spot is a few years after release when someone is selling their HUO machine to buy the new hotness.

I bought a pinball with mine.

I agree. Limited availability has always been a sales tactic to increase drive for a product,.. But anyone buying them to flip within a day or two for $1,000’s more is still a dick in my book.

Not to mention now you could even have distributors possibly working with friends etc to flip them. I’ve been in the business of flipping stuff in the past and its all in who you know.

I know sneakers got to a level with collectors that people were begging the manufacturers to come up with ways that regular fans wouldn’t get screwed on new releases. There was a few things they did like an app with a timed lottery deal etc.

For me I won’t get into LE’s as I plan on playing my pinballs and then handing them off to my kids when I die one day. If I had a room full of LE’s I don’t think I would be playing that often since they’re so collectible.

It’s like the guy that has a beat up but working trans-am he’s driving the shit out of monthly while the guy that has a mint 12,000original miles, limited edition trans m-am takes it out maybe 3-4 times a year.

dont buy from flippers... let them eat it!!

I'm not so sure about this cargument. Some are valid in my opinion. Not all LE's are trailer queens. The only ones I have played were on location.

True that. Most of the LE’s I’ve played were routed as well.

Just saying if I were a big collector I would definitely baby some of the LE’s over other pins

The only LE I ever played so far was on location, Star Trek LE.

Right?! Nothing wrong with older games. Plus, this will be on location near me as soon as it starts shipping so no need to own one.

LE Seller Bingo - Who will win first?

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