Moved to Stern sub forum.

I think Stern's IJ was a reasonable layout. The failure with that game was the poor code, which Stern abandoned and still has not completed in my eyes . . . which is surprising since that game sold fairly well according to estimates (not a home run, but not 24 or CSI either).

Borg is the man. At one time i had three Borg games in my line up at the same time: Tron, XMen, and Iron Man. I'm about to again as though Tron is gone TWDLE is on the way (I have stuck with my order mostly due to Borg being the designer and the theme . . . I just hope Stern puts attention to the code).

i jumped on twdle just cause of what john did with metle that i bought nib....i too and hoping the code brings the game to the next level

Borg's actually been a pretty solid designer all along...he did some sweet games for DE and Sega. Maybe they didn't get as much love as the B/W games - mostly due to DE/Sega art/feel - but from a design perspective he's done some cool stuff throughout the years. Everyone has their ups 'n downs.

He has more of that X factor in his tables which I like. Not quite the flow of Ritchie but his games always have that cool element that can't quite be pinpointed to one thing.

I like IJ and yes the code is what let it down.

Sorry besides Tron i don't like his games much. Xmen is one of the worst games i have owned and despite my love of Metallica the band the game left a ton to be desired and felt clunky in spots. Granted take my met synopsis from less then a hundred games on the early code. I swore off buying his games but when I play tron and it is so smooth and fast and who knows maybe i will consider his work again in the future. TWD looks like another step back design wise. Love me some Steve Ritchie and George Gomez and hope Borg has another tron in him minus the nasty hard on occasion gem shot.

IJ has a pretty good layout, it reminds me a bit of DE Star Wars. But the pretty good layout was ruined with bland, repetitive rules. I don't want to shoot the ark 21 times to begin a Multiball where I shoot the ark to light Jackpot at the ark, I want variety. The fact that it has no modes or formula to follow makes it even more confusing.