Playboy 35th Anniversary
Data East, 1989Quoted from wantdataeast:Or he has kids. I have a stern Playboy that is going up for sale as soon as i shop it out. .. and my wife would not be thrilled to see my 12 year old playing it.
Dont teach her how to check out internet history, she'd be wishing he played that instead.
Quoted from lordloss:Dont teach her how to check out internet history, she'd be wishing he played that instead.
I agree. With todays technology, can people still be that conservative over something as mild as the playboy name ? I guess if you don't own cable, or a computer or pretty much access to the outside world, you might be able to hide them from nudity. 
I mean if it wasn't a playboy. Put it together and play it. The value won't be that much different.
-J
And what if the new owner who buys it opens it up. And the boards are all messed cuz of the batteries?
It has rust? And the playfield is planked?
Open that thing up and inspect it. Take photos to prove it power it up to make sure it works. And put it back in the box.
A playboy that works and has 0 plays and is NIB with proof. Is worth more than just one in a box.
Quoted from erak:And what if the new owner who buys it opens it up. And the boards are all messed cuz of the batteries?
It has rust? And the playfield is planked?
Open that thing up and inspect it. Take photos to prove it power it up to make sure it works. And put it back in the box.
A playboy that works and has 0 plays and is NIB with proof. Is worth more than just one in a box.
That's the problem. He doesn't want to lower the price if it's jacked. Better to sell in the box and let the buyer take the chance.
Quoted from CrazyLevi:Regardless, seen plenty of photos of 20-30-year old games being unboxed and the batteries are ALWAYS fine. Who know? Maybe they made 'em better back then.
May have something to do with not having a current applied to the boards. The batteries just go dead.
I don't blame the OP for not opening it, so why all the fuss?
It's DE Playboy, not Addams Family, what does he really have to gain by opening it up? He's doing the smart thing by keeping it a mystery/closed, as it's been for 28 years.
If the OP really wanted a DE Playboy, he'd throw a grand or so at a used one, which is what this basically becomes once you pull the staples out.
Chances are the game is fine, very cool to see a nib DE anything, it's too bad it's not a better game.
Quoted from whthrs166:It really depends on the humidity, how the game was handled, and how it was stored. All ?s that baby has been sittin for a long time. Its really common sense: When you open a NIB game it is moved inside a dwelling or business where the temperature is controlled and there is a roof overhead. A game in a box is kept in many different places moist concrete basements, storage facilities ect... The bulbs and holder rust and filaments go bad.
The bulb sockets may get tarnished but how would the tungsten filaments "go bad"??? They're in a vacuum. 
Quoted from ScoreOne:I plan on selling it to someone that wants a NIB Playboy
How much are you selling it for?
Quoted from cosmokramer:Some people dont seem to understand capitalism....he is buying and selling a commodity, nothing more nothing less.
Just because its a pinball doesnt change anything....
Sort of like a bottle of wine that is 200 years old. It is all cool until it is opened.
I am a retailer, but also a collector. This was a seriously fun find! If this were a BTTF or some other Data East I wanted in my collection the post I put up would have been of my unboxing and setup. It's just not a title I want to make room for. I didn't get it cheap. I was getting a POTC and Mustang with it so took the chance on being able to find someone who wants it. Pretty sure most on this board would have grabbed it if available and tried to make a little money to help pay for the others. I think anyone who buys it will understand the risks and I assume batteries have gone bad and may have caused serious problems...but I've also had many machines with original batteries that are fine with just dead batteries.
I have listed it in a for sale ad, have a few offers and will assume this will be sold in the next day or two. I do know it came out of a dry shop where it had been. I assume no rust or issues from that side of it. I also expect buyer to send me many pics of unboxing as I really want to do it, but if they are paying for NIB, then it should be in a sealed box in my mind. Doesn't mean I don't want to see it come out and see if it fires up ok!
You are a bold man to buy an old NIB pin without opening it to check out its condition. I have bought 2 old NIB pins and wouldn't have bought them if I weren't able to open it up and check its condition. If the seller is so sure everything is fine and you leave a few hundred dollar deposite before you open it then all should be well. If it checks bad, you lost your deposit and he still has his NiB pin that's never been played. In the end it doesn't matter if it's been opened up as long as it's all there and carefully removed and put back. It's not everyday an old pin that's never been played comes up for sale. That whole "but it's been opened" really only applies to newer pins.
Don't ship R+L or it *will* be a pile of garbage by the time it gets to where it's going... those morons dumped my Jackbot that was double strapped to a pallet off of it, shattered the glass, and then put it on a skiff upside down ON THE HEAD... bloody morons. That was after it went to the wrong place twice.
Quoted from Bud:You are a bold man to buy an old NIB pin without opening it to check out its condition. I have bought 2 old NIB pins and wouldn't have bought them if I weren't able to open it up and check its condition. If the seller is so sure everything is fine and you leave a few hundred dollar deposite before you open it then all should be well. If it checks bad, you lost your deposit and he still has his NiB pin that's never been played. In the end it doesn't matter if it's been opened up as long as it's all there and carefully removed and put back. It's not everyday an old pin that's never been played comes up for sale. That whole "but it's been opened" really only applies to newer pins.
Could you tell us all what was wrong with either or both of these pins that would have changed your mind if you known about those particular issues.
Quoted from CrazyLevi:The absolute worst case scenarios here - acid on a board or rubber that needs replacing (GASP!) are complete non-issues for a buyer of a novelty like this. Boards are plentiful, reproduced, plentiful, and relatively cheap. Regardless, seen plenty of photos of 20-30-year old games being unboxed and the batteries are ALWAYS fine. Who know? Maybe they made 'em better back then.
maybe but I'd want to know before I made an offer, and if you have to change boards its not original and that for collections is important.
Quoted from Travish:Hope someone here buys it so we see what all the fuss is about.
Not everyone here would open it if they bought it. I wouldn't.
Quoted from Boat:OP makes a post about finding a NIB playboy and takes a photo of the brown box. No details or story. Talk about bait and switch . Come back when you have photos from whoever you sell it to.
I think the details are pretty simple. He bought it and he is selling it. Here is his ad on pinside:
https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/51262
What is bait and switch here? He is unlikely to tell us what he paid for it. All he has is photos of the box, not much else to show here.
Quoted from wayout440:Imagine if a car collector said he had a brand new '63 Corvette in a container but nobody could see it...and the other classic car collectors gathering round to ooh and ah at the boring container.
Hardly the same thing. If 63' Corvettes were shipped in sealed crates then you would have a similar scenario.
My buddy's dad bought 2 nib tv's and vcr's years ago when he got home and opened them the tv's were old ones so you could see the picture tube, the vcr's were old broken ones also. How do you know there's even a pinball machine in there without looking?
Quoted from Bud:You are a bold man to buy an old NIB pin without opening it to check out its condition. I have bought 2 old NIB pins and wouldn't have bought them if I weren't able to open it up and check its condition. If the seller is so sure everything is fine and you leave a few hundred dollar deposite before you open it then all should be well. If it checks bad, you lost your deposit and he still has his NiB pin that's never been played. In the end it doesn't matter if it's been opened up as long as it's all there and carefully removed and put back. It's not everyday an old pin that's never been played comes up for sale. That whole "but it's been opened" really only applies to newer pins.
dude...MIB STTNG...PURE PINBALL PORN THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quoted from wantdataeast:Hardly the same thing. If 63' Corvettes were shipped in sealed crates then you would have a similar scenario.
No, exactly the same thing. Either way, its still a boring box, one can only use imagination to picture the.contents. A collector who appreciates what they collect would actually want to gaze upon it's contents and view its beauty, at minimum. Heavens, they might even want to play/drive it!
Quoted from wayout440:No, exactly the same thing. Either way, its still a boring box, one can only use imagination to picture the.contents. A collector who appreciates what they collect would actually want to gaze upon it's contents and view its beauty, at minimum. Heavens, they might even want to play/drive it!
I read this "said he had a brand new '63 Corvette in a container but nobody could see it"
as the "implication" that there is something other than what he "said" was inside the box.
And CLEARLY the MIB box status adds to the value of the item. A 1959 Barbie doll in a factory box has a greater value than the same 1959 Barbie doll in a generic box.
Again.. An item like this pin sealed in is factory box is not remotely the same thing by any stretch of the imagination, as a new item the was never in packaging to begin with like a corvette in a shipping container.
Quoted from wantdataeast:Or he has kids. I have a stern Playboy that is going up for sale as soon as i shop it out. .. and my wife would not be thrilled to see my 12 year old playing it.
Really?
Your wife would care?
I've got a Sexy Girl plus two different Playboys, and all my little nieces and nephews, aunts and uncles (and my 80 year old mother when she was alive) have played them.
No one has ever been offended, or tried to shield the children's eyes.
I've had many work parties where everyone was invited to bring their kids, and no one was ever like OMG! The kids don't even pay attention to them, they play one ball, and then only want to play Xbox on the 10ft screen.
It's a big nothing.
From what I've seen, kids have all the real porn they need right on their phones.
(do not let them show you the "horse gag" video, you have been warned )
Quoted from wantdataeast:Could you tell us all what was wrong with either or both of these pins that would have changed your mind if you known about those particular issues.
That's the same NIB NGG I subsequently purchased from @Bud!
Sad story behind both games. Older operator who had them in his climate controlled apartment since purchasing who meant to get them out on the streets once his health improved (which it never did).
Amazing find, but even with @Bud's detailed pics I wanted to look everything over before paying. Both games look like someone picked them up fresh off the line. And the threads advertising them were filled with similar skepticism and negativity. The DE Playboy could be pristine or could be a mess. I would not buy without verifying since my pockets are not that deep, but that's part of the thrill for some.
Also I planned on playing the NGG (which was already one of my favorite games) from the get go. Had been looking for a really nice one for a while and decided it would not get better than this one (short of a HEP restoration which would still cost more).
About a year later I saw another NGG almost as nice for $1600 less, but in this case the fun of unboxing and having such a minty example has proven to be worth it for me.
If both had been available at the same time and I'd had the luxury of comparing them I would have gone with the used one just to save on the money for other pins and projects.
Regardless, no regrets!
Quoted from wantdataeast:Could you tell us all what was wrong with either or both of these pins that would have changed your mind if you known about those particular issues.
Nothing was wrong with them or I wouldn't have paid the price that I did for them. What "could" have been wrong with them is improper storage. A pin stored in a damp environment, or a environment like a storage locker off the coast could wreak havoc on all the metal parts. I bought a pin that was stored in a connex shipping container for about 10 years in Georgia. It was a TOTAN, sad thing was it was stored with the right intentions and it was a nice pin, but improper storage killed it. Had this been a pin that was in a box, who knows what it would have looked like unless the box was opened. The hot and cold cycles combined with humidity caused condensation to collect on the pin and it's parts. See pics below
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Quoted from vid1900:Really?
Your wife would care?
I've got a Sexy Girl plus two different Playboys, and all my little nieces and nephews, aunts and uncles (and my 80 year old mother when she was alive) have played them.
No one has ever been offended, or tried to shield the children's eyes.
I've had many work parties where everyone was invited to bring their kids, and no one was ever like OMG! The kids don't even pay attention to them, they play one ball, and then only want to play Xbox on the 10ft screen.
It's a big nothing.
From what I've seen, kids have all the real porn they need right on their phones.
(do not let them show you the "horse gag" video, you have been warned )
and sexy girl is way more revealing than playboy. It's even more revealing than my Miss World.
That
Quoted from wantdataeast:I read this "said he had a brand new '63 Corvette in a container but nobody could see it"
as the "implication" that there is something other than what he "said" was inside the box.
And CLEARLY the MIB box status adds to the value of the item. A 1959 Barbie doll in a factory box has a greater value than the same 1959 Barbie doll in a generic box.
Again.. An item like this pin sealed in is factory box is not remotely the same thing by any stretch of the imagination, as a new item the was never in packaging to begin with like a corvette in a shipping container.
Again, you miss my point, as all you care is the $"value"$. So what if the Corvette WAS shipped from the factory in a sealed container? That still doesn't change the fact that you can't see it...all that changes is what someone is willing to pay for it. It doesn't become anything real for the hobby until it is opened.
The problem is, nobody can truly enjoy the pin and you are paying for imagination. If you open the box and see something like that TOTAN above, that's practically worthless to me - ZIP. In your Barbie example, at least collectors can see the doll, the packaging has a clear window, and even the packaging is beautiful (and though I am no expert, I don't believe Barbie rusts or corrodes like real women)
Quoted from Bud:Nothing was wrong with them or I wouldn't have paid the price that I did for them. What "could" have been wrong with them is improper storage. A pin stored in a damp environment, or a environment like a storage locker off the coast could wreak havoc on all the metal parts. I bought a pin that was stored in a connex shipping container for about 10 years in Georgia. It was a TOTAN, sad thing was it was stored with the right intentions and it was a nice pin, but improper storage killed it. Had this been a pin that was in a box, who knows what it would have looked like unless the box was opened. The hot and cold cycles combined with humidity caused condensation to collect on the pin and it's parts. See pics below
Ho Lee Crap. Did you end up restoring it? Was the playfield any good?
Quoted from wayout440:It doesn't become anything real for the hobby until it is opened.
Actually until the box is opened (and the observer collapses the wave function) his pinball machine is a flawless utterly perfect condition. And I do not mean it might be in flawless condition... I mean it IS actually in flawless condition.
According to the theoretical physicist Erwin Schrodinger
(...of course it also exist simultaneously utterly destroy condition at same time...but that will never help him sell it)
Haha that's funny. I'm sure I am in the minority who don't get excited about a plain brown box. To me its just nothing to get excited about. Now if it comes out later and its showroom zero plays perfect....THEN I will be interested and excited. For now, it's just a cardboard box. It could have gold bricks in it and I would be like...meh, big del.
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