IM isn't a straight deal for an ACDC Pro that is still being made, but at the same time *if you are willing to wait* you can get them for a decent price. There was the auction one that was noted recently, and yeah - people weren't there to get it, but then why didn't some flipper bid it up higher and buy it to flip it immediately? If I'm at an auction, and there is a TZ - a game that I have no intention of owning again - and it is selling for $3400, I'll snap it up and sell it for $4500 that same day.

I know of an HUO IM around here that wasn't offered on Pinside, and sold for well south of that $5,000 number recently. There just aren't that many of these out there right now. Give it a year or two and see if they come off route more. There are a decent number of these that went on route, and very few went into homes - the game was *hated* when it was released by home collectors. Times have changed, but it ain't worth those route ops pulling the games that are still making good coin... yet.

I don't ever remember POTC being that cheap. It earned / earns really well, so ops don't want to give them up. You could get them at $3400, but it was few and far between. $3600-3700 is more of an "all day" price, I think.

Regardless, it's a point...

If you want *any* machine right now, you have to pay a premium. The people who have games ready to go at that moment are generally people with high prices or vendors with the games waiting to be sold, where you're going to have a higher price than those waiting.

If you are willing to wait, I think you could find an IM within a year for $4300 without it having tons of mods, you just have to be ready to go and get it. I know of at least five of them that sold for that price or less within the last 6 months.

Funny. I have one. I have some mods. I don't think it's worth $5k.

I'm also not selling it. Unless the stuff really hits the fan.

There are none for sale at this exact moment for $4k. The last time one of these threads was going on, someone offered one here that had a few mods at $4800, and it went for a week or two.

As for selling stuff, I basically don't sell. I've been offered stupid money for my JP for instance, but once it is a game that I like and it has my story attached to it, I tend to not think money. I think if I was doing it, I could get another IM for under $5k easy. But I wouldn't sell you mine for $10k right now. It's *exactly* what I want it to be, and to me that is always the most important thing.

For the record though, I sold a BSD a year or two ago for $500 though. I thought I overcharged.

I was offered $3500 for it in 2007 or 2008 (I forget which) when you could easily score nice ones for $1200-$1400ish. Even in "today's market", $3500 for a JP is ridiculous. The guy that wanted it said he wanted an immaculate one and didn't care the cost. He started at $2500 and actually showed me the $3500, and I still turned him down.

I got that game for an absolute song, it's near perfect, and I wanted it so badly that my brother and law in I literally carried it up the stairs and out of the basement of the guy's house without a dolly. It was the game that I first decided that one day I would own when I was young and getting into pinball. I spent a long time with it working out the kinks, and making it play perfectly.

I knew that for $3500, I could get another JP, and probably one or two more great games. But, I knew that I couldn't get a JP that had all those stories behind it, and I'd always kind of miss this one.

I don't regret it one bit.