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For those that have played TWD...Grade it!

By 27dnast

9 years ago


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“For those that have played TWD...Grade it!”

  • (A) Plays great, long term appeal for a collection 46 votes
    17%
  • (B) Fun game, will want to own for a while 55 votes
    20%
  • (B) Fun Game, wouldn't want to own it 49 votes
    18%
  • (C) Meh, it was ok 90 votes
    33%
  • (D) Total Dud 17 votes
    6%
  • (F) Bad Stuff 6 votes
    2%
  • (X) Other, explain 12 votes
    4%

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#14 9 years ago
Quoted from pins4life33:

I would blame Stern for not negotiating this into the original licensing agreement, but in the end, it doesn't surprise me that cast members wanted a major cut on this too. There is only so much to go around and Stern should have turned this licensing agreement down if they were not going to get cooporation for the use of the property.

So sell no pins? Stern has already sold 600LEs to distributors and probably several hundred Pros. So they just should've tossed all that revenue down the toilet because people on Pinside think Stern should've taken their ball and gone home?

My guess with both The Hobbit and their Smaug issues and TWD, you get to a point where you have too much skin in the game to call it. Instead, you have to adapt. Realities of staying in business.

#34 9 years ago
Quoted from pins4life33:

No, what I am saying is do your homework before you decide you to manufacturer a pin. I am a huge Stern supporter however, there is lessons learned here. DP made sure they had full control over their licensing and made sure others like Brunswick, were in the mix. They knew other's like Kaluha were not interested but at least they did all the homework before actually commited to creating the pin.
Maybe Stern did do this and made the decision that having no actors voices or doing voice overs a suitable risk. Either way the question is who is to blame if you do not like this direction, it is Stern as they made those decision to go ahead with this title knowing this. Sometime you are better to go to the next idea, if you are not unable to agree to a reasonable licensing agreement at a fair price. Move on to the next idea, it is not like there ain't a billion licensing theme's out there that would have been just as good.

For all we know they did their homework and had the actors' voices in there, then the actors found out about it and started to scream, so AMC said "take it or leave it". Nobody knows exactly the circumstances of what went down except for Stern. Granted however, Stern could've chosen to just say screw it and not do a TWD pin.

They didn't. And they have still sold 600 LE pins to distributors. Let's say distributor pricing is only 6k (have no idea how accurate that is). Stern just made 3.6 million in revenue. This is not counting Pros or any money they stand to make selling mods. So tell me again, how as this a bad decision as business? Yes, it is sad that some people didn't get the TWD pin that they wanted. However Stern doesn't care which 600 people buy their LE, just that 600 actually do.

If the majority of those 600 LEs end up being stuck at distributors for the next 10 years and distributors cannot move them so don't buy future Stern pins, then yes it could be a decision that hurts them in the long run.

Stern isn't always going to make the best decisions as far as our vocal community is concerned, sometimes they are going to make decisions that are best for their bottom line just like any responsible company.

#43 9 years ago
Quoted from pins4life33:

The question was who is to blame for actors voices not being on the machine, it is Stern...

Sometimes things come down to a handful of bad choices though. TBL was pretty far along when they were told they couldn't use Kahlua's brand on the machine. Luckily for them it was a minor hiccup but they weren't happy about it. TH was pretty far along when they had the door shut on the Smaug design they wanted. Easy to point fingers and say it should've been done differently, but unless you are in the room I don't think blame can be assigned that easily/cleanly especially if you have a licensor who needs final approval on things that might've been in progress for awhile.

1 week later
#179 9 years ago

He also might have to get permission from AMC if he even did want to do it. AMC owns Rick Grimes, not Andrew Lincoln.

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