Isn't this a reimport you got from the guy in Warsaw In. That got a container of pins which had issues. Correct me if I'm wrong Luke I too bought one of his pins and sold it for a loss because I was honest and fixed the pin I bought then sold it for its worth. You then transported this to my home uncovered in a truck and tried to screw us on your MET for our Shadow...your MET was not 100% so we sent you on your way after we saw rain was coming. We shrink wrapped your MET and TZ with our shrink wrap to help you from the storm that came. The next day I tried to work things out with the hack you tried to sell us and even offered to come down to Indy but you said you already had it back in your basement. Good luck with your sale.

That escalated quickly.

Ooooo buuuurn glwts

Now, now, boys.

If you have additional information about the seller, that's cool. I believe for sale threads should have as much info as possible. But to just say, "he tried to screw me," is kinda BS. How, specifically? Make your comments constructive not disruptive.

That's a pretty sweet looking line up, even with the low rider lights!

I actually like that green glow, it's not to dark in that room with the lights off. Very nice touch!

Rulfah seems like a big pain in the ass. i wouldn't want to continue to deal with him either.

There are two sides to every story. If you are thinking about purchasing this pin, just got an see it for yourself. Make your own opinion and decision. If the games plays well, everything is working, and is to your liking, then buy it. If it does not meet your standards or live up to the description, don't buy it. Pretty simple.

Now if people are buying from out of state and paying for shipping, you have to realize that you're going off someone's word and their pictures. Historically there have been some bad eggs out there who aren't always completely honest (not calling you out OP, but there's a track record of that happening.) That's why I always deal locally and see the game in person before purchasing.

Man, between this thread and the other TZ thread, the Pinside FS forums are becoming downright toxic.

On one hand I see the value of asking legit questions that others may want to know the answer to and have it in a centralized placed so that the same question isnt asked over and over again. On the other hand negative posts CAN certainly deter buyers. I have been working on a deal with Agent_Hero and I have to say I had a feeling of concern after reading the above post this morning... although after thinking about it I couldnt really get much out of the post about this machine other than it was an import (which I knew by the coin door) and that it was transported potentially through the rain. All I know is everything had been laid out (full disclosure), Agent provided additional pictures as well as a video of the machine.

i'd be tempted to trade my shadow for MET.

Nothing in this thread beyond the original post makes any fucking sense.

if it's a pro, I don't even know if i'd except an even up trade.

good, I thought I was the only one that couldn't read the first couple of posts. They are almost incomprehensible.

It would take a CSI team and and expert in dead languages to make any fucking sense of the following gibberish:

"Isn't this a reimport you got from the guy in Warsaw In. That got a container of pins which had issues. Correct me if I'm wrong Luke I too bought one of his pins and sold it for a loss because I was honest and fixed the pin I bought then sold it for its worth. You then transported this to my home uncovered in a truck and tried to screw us on your MET for our Shadow."

all I saw was.....

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Not to derail here but what is a solid example of The Shadow valued at? I've been looking for one as well as a Metallica Premium (I also have a TZ so this thread is keeping me interested).

In any event I wish the OP good luck with his sale. Twilight Zone shouldn't be a hard sell as it seems most people that I know that have been in the scene for a few years or more either currently own or had owned a TZ previously.

i've been offered $4500 for my shadow before. Almost took it.

actually you are looking for a shadow for MET, so it's actually on topic.

The OP is correct. Please keep all posts in this thread on topic and about his game, which is for sale.

If you want to discuss the value of Shadow, or any other game that is not Twilight Zone, please start a new thread.

Thanks.

Marcus

This was not an even trade. It was our Shadow + $1000. I don't look to tant any waters but everything AH said is true with the exception that the TZ he got was not wrapped..and in the back of a pick up with the BB up. As far as flippers needing replaced, no. Shadow was clean and nice. AH never mentioned any issues..he played it then said all was good..then when I mentioned I wanted to see Met up and running ...which ment putting a standard DMD in Met.. The mounting brackets in Met were gone. The DMD could not be installed. We did not know how we could do this and asked AH what we could do. He suggested buying some long screws ....uh no. So we helped AH on his way after helping reload and wrap his pins. The next morning I said we were still interested if he could put in the missing mounting hardware and would also drive the 3 Hr. round to finish the deal. He said he would put his IJ mounting hardware in Met then call me. He did but said it would not work. We offered $250 more if he would include the color DMD. He declined. The only reason I was promoted to post was because after I sent him a PM about his TZ being from the same crate and knew it's condition and what he was asking I was pretty much blown off.

AH is a nice kid. Look at his JP in his collection. He got that from us last June , Kelly and I did all the mods...he mentions how it is the hit hit with his family. "Fantastic!"
Smh!

As far as Shadow it was sold the next day to another Pinsider...for $3150 with the Baldwin translite and the Alrich translight. I'm sure it is in our history. No ill will to AH but don't try and make a few dollars from inflating a price of a pin that has known negative history because you paid to much.

This.

This TZ looks great, Price is right on-point for a re-import IMO... ALL 20 year-old pins have issues of some sort...I'd be interested if I didn't just buy one!! GLWS!!

You should have

that's exactly what you're looking to do.

edit: Just saw a thread eject for you. makes sense.

Exactly why I stopped posting in them.

Last time I had some weirdo harassing me to take pictures of the "headboard" and "drop holes" on my Tron LE (thought I had detailed pictures of the scoop, ramp return inlanes, shooter lane, and trough in the library link provided).

And then he said the LE apron looked weird because it "didn't have the pictures" and accused me of trying to sell a Pro that was converted to an LE.

What a glorious waste of time.

Sorry you had to deal with such a headache OP. GLWTS