It was just a Matter of time till people started listing this model for crazy prices bc of the nib one listed a few days ago for 11k+ . However it is a nib with all the original goodies like dp cab,wood apron and other things. However it has all the fixes that were implemented over the years and most importantly the 2.0 lightning system which is a huge upgrade and must for the long haul. Older ecle in mostly stock form sell for 7-8k and depending on upgrades can go up to 8500-9. Glws ..its a beautiful pin.