It isn't and your pictures are horrible. Good luck.

Lol

For the price you are asking, much higher resolution and quality pictures should be provided. There's no way to see the actual condition of the machine with the pictures you have posted.

For 7 grand at least post 7 pictures.

In order to claim HUO you need to have documentation to back it up. It's quite possible that it is a Home Used Only Game, you just need to prove it. I would use Home Used Condition. That would need to be backed up by nice close up pics of the playfield with the game off glass off. Especially the shooter lane and the mine kick out spot the ball lands on.

In all fairness , he does say he didn't know how to correctly list the game and I'm guessing he has not posted many games for sale.
So as stated in the above replies might give him a better understanding of how to sell this pin ...

GLWS

how did whitewater go from a 4k game to a 7k game in a years time?

White Water was once considered the most underrated Williams/Bally Game. In order for a game to double it's value in a short time like this people have to be buying it at the higher prices. Demand!

Muuuuch better! In the "seasoned" condition thi sis in you might want to take soe more pics of the boards in the backbox if you don't get any nibbles from people.

It didn’t.

Wh20 has been around $5k for quite a while.

Looks nice, just needs a good cleaning and see below suggestions. GLWTS!

Just helping you sell. If you’re serious about selling, lower your asking price. It shows wear on PF. It needs to be torn down and cleaned. This game is a tough one. And if it resets, it would be considered partially working.

If it's HUO is been in a rough home and I wouldn't claim HUO status on this game at all. You're going to struggle to get $4k for this game...cleaning it up will go a long way. Just from a 20 second look at the pictures:

- The lock targets are not the correct ones.
- The boulder under the waterfall ramp, where it attaches to the star post, is broken.
- The boulder under the waterfall ramp at the flasher has a hole in it.
- The boulder garden boulder looks like it's been repaired.
- The right slingshot plastic is broken.
- Worn playfield at the Lost Mine kick-out.

Yep, that mine vuk is killer on this title. Can be fixed though.

Struggle to get $4K? I doubt that... game looks generally good. I'm thinking this will fetch $4.5K easily... probably market value in the high $4s to $5-ish

Probably not.

In this ad, you linked it to WhiteWater. If you click on that WhiteWater logo, it will bring you to the Pinside page for this title, which shows the estimated range as $4,620 - $5,380. That's why people here are going to balk at a $7K price tag for a game in need of cleaning with wear at the kickout and other cosmetic issues. For the top end of the range, people here will expect a clean game, fully working, minimal cosmetic issues.

that's funny because I bought mine, buddy bought his, and another friend sold one last spring/summer for 4k.

It's usually helpful to look at recent sales: https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/archive?s=1&ad_machine_key=536

It's hard to find the amount sold for most of them, although it's a good bet that "Firm" listings sold for close to the listed price. You can compare and contrast your machine with the ones listed and see why expensive ones are expensive. IMO if you're patient you might be able to get low $5K range.

Your cracked boulders aren't all that uncommon... Starship Fantasy will run more repros at some point. Or, you might be able to snag some from eBay.

You might want to pull the backglass and take some photos of the batteries... if I were a buyer, I'd be really interested to see what's going on there, especially since you've had the game for 20 years and you're a novice. Maybe lift the playfield (remove balls first) and photo inside playfield... also photo backside of the cabinet head.

I do believe you're sitting on a game that will sell in the 4.5-5-ish range. Playfield and cabinet looks nice.

Don't let the price police jump on you too much, you did list as OBO. You're just going to have to wait and see what kind of offers your receive.

White Water is a very popular title... but summer time plus the expense of new available titles might make the process a little slow. Be patient.

those are good prices, you don't see $4k around here unless the game needs work. sometimes you get lucky, but mostly they are going for around $5k. The one in this ad is likely an average game, so 4800 for a quicker sale. they are in good demand I think, popular and very fun game, as we all know.

with parts cost, bath it, and get it working, I would pay $4k. It will sit forever at anything over $5k

OP seems like a genuine guy, just new to this. OP I suggest you search the forum for other adds which received many upvotes to understand the type of pictures the community cares about (glass off and document any scratches, dirt, cracks on the play field, backless and cabinet).

Also search for previous whitewater ads to understand the price it fetched and why.

Typically unless you do your own cleaning and maintenance -- and if you are new it will be tough -- it's tough to justify the cost of having a professional do it. Although it IS far less hassle in selling the game as you're experiencing

Last year I had 2 Wh20's, , both VERY nice playable pins. Both original, no mods (except for color DMD) or hacks. Due due space concerns, I put one up for sale. Sold it in 2 days for 5500.00 and it was the lesser condition of the 2.
In in CT so location may play a part here, but cannot be sure. Bottom line is Wh20's are more or less a ~5000.00 pin these days, maybe a bit more with *tasteful* mods. YMMV though...

LOL - Op is told game should be around 5K or less by almost all posts, and adjusted accordingly - dropped price by $100 to $6899

He is not listening....

his wife must be making him list it! "im not sure why it ain't sold yet honey?"

I'd pay maybe $3500 given the condition, if I wanted this game. It's not in great condition. Gonna watch this thread implode, as others are pointing out, the op is being pretty lazy about the spot on feedback. Annnyway.

Hey, Thats an Idea... gonna try that...

Yeah you and EVERY other Pinsider. Maybe $3500, lol.

I guess I'll continue the bidding - $3600 here.

I’d pay $3500 for a Tron LE!

Just say’n

Those ramps look black!!???

3700

I'l offer 50% of your asking price for being local.

We may need to get to a sub zip code level if “local” is a bargaining chip

Hey OP...a lot of offers here...and none have broken the $4k threshold yet.

Im in for 4.1k...and I already have a WH20

LOL! You can never have too many Whitewaters. I have 2 right now and had 3 at one time. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be able to get anymore for the prices I was able to grab all mine for.

Now you guys got me worried ...Lol! We moved (those that have been here . 10 minutes closer to Fort Wayne) We are at 10 pins now and need to move one and it looks like it will be White Water. Wanting a MMR but Kelly is set on keeping DI. I try not to argue since having a significant other in the hobby is a plus I’m told.
Babymouse hold true to what you feel. But understand these PS Vets will never Guide you wrong.
GLWS!