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For sale: White Water

By Shane75

5 years ago

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#1 5 years ago

SGS

Shane75

Pinside member

Fresno, CA

8y 45,650 44 22 9

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For sale: White Water

Added: 2019-04-09 04:08:51 UTC • Ended: April 15th, 2019
Condition: Fully restored (full original status)

Price

$ 9,000 (OBO)

Open for offers

One of a kind custom whitewater. Sad to see it go but making room for the next. Has about every mod you can imagine. This game is a stunner.
3D translite
Color dmd
Illuminated Targets
Mirror blades
Custom shooter rod
Speaker lights
Custom illuminated apron
White powder coating
Hand painted snow capped mountains
Custom Yeti instead of Bigfoot
Repro PFs and more...
Please call me with any question or wanting more pictures ###-###-#### [phone number removed]. Willing to ship at buyers expense.

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#2 5 years ago

JAM

NPO

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12y 133K 7,655 3 17

This is going to get good. I can already hear the sirens.

#3 5 years ago

EDE

Ericpinballfan

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8y 166K 10,435 7 1

Bumbo is adorable...he's so cute.
Not a fan of the white powder coat. Ive seen light blue with the Winter white water, i liked that.
Maybe more pics for 9k. I did over 50 for a 3k machine. Just me, trying to transparent.
Glws, this could take awhile.

#4 5 years ago

???

ccbiggsoo7

Pinside+ Frequent

10y 91,050 6,065 37 10 2

ok, this has just gotten stupid now!

#5 5 years ago

ABE

PinDeLaPin

Pinside member

6y 84,300 3,600

Seriously he has LED's in the topper light boards!! How many times have we been over this about led's cancelling out the waterfall effect? Good news is the seller is willing to trade straight up for a 600 play Baywatch.

#6 5 years ago

???

jkashani

Pinside+ Frequent

Greystone Park, NJ

9y 119K 3,592 6

What’s up with that snow moncheechee?

#7 5 years ago

MJM

mjm697

Pinside member

Buffalo, NY

10y 60,300 1,162

Good luck with that

#8 5 years ago

MJA

Mitch

Pinside member

Wellesley, ON

10y 131K 5,030 18 38

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/making-a-wh2o-normal-again

#9 5 years ago

MJA

Mitch

Pinside member

Wellesley, ON

10y 131K 5,030 18 38

Now I see why it's so expensive. Has the super rare double apron mod. Nearly twice as good as 1 custom apron.

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#10 5 years ago

RST

rs812

Inactive member

11y 72,550 1,072

There is no way an X970000 prototype is worth... oops, wrong thread.

#11 5 years ago

CDL

crlush

Pinside member

Ray Twp., MI

11y 86,300 2,760 8

#12 5 years ago

Blackbeard

Pinside member

12y 106K 12,108 6 20

PM sent.

You guys are fools. I know a good deal when I see one.

#13 5 years ago

RUS

russdx

Pinside member

8y 60,800 2,087 5

good response time from price police! pinside must of upped there funding with the severe amount of crazy overpriced games recently

#14 5 years ago

SDS

whthrs166

Pinside member

Arvada, CO

10y 93,050 4,526 12

OK I am a bit confused here. Is this the same WW that was just listed recently for $7200? Same armor from CA. Did the $7200 one flip and relist for 9k? or different game just similar?

#15 5 years ago

KRH

thirdedition

What The Flip

9y 62,300 950 25

Quoted from whthrs166:
OK I am a bit confused here. Is this the same WW that was just listed recently for $7200? Same armor from CA. Did the $7200 one flip and relist for 9k? or different game just similar?

It can't be a different similar game, this is a one of a kind custom....

#16 5 years ago

ABE

PinDeLaPin

Pinside member

6y 84,300 3,600

Quoted from thirdedition:
It can't be a different similar game, this is a one of a kind custom....

Sure am glad theres only 1 of these!

#17 5 years ago

JIG

jwilson

Pinball Art Prints

Toronto, ON

9y 106K 5,052 6 7

Remember when Whitewater was a $500 game that nobody liked?

#18 5 years ago

JEV

yaksplat

Pinside member

Lancaster, NY

8y 85,300 2,104 8 6

Quoted from jwilson:
Remember when Whitewater was a $500 game that nobody liked?

When was that?

#19 5 years ago

???

Mike_J

Pinside member

13y 99,550 5,400 58

Quoted from yaksplat:
When was that?

Yesterday.

#20 5 years ago

RUS

russdx

Pinside member

8y 60,800 2,087 5

Quoted from jwilson:
Remember when Whitewater was a $500 game that nobody liked?

i want to live in this world you speak of

#21 5 years ago

ALX

Pahuffman

Pinside member

Hoover, AL

9y 88,800 1,967 6

Quoted from yaksplat:
When was that?

Mid-late 90s.

#22 5 years ago

MJS

schudel5

Pinside member

20y 166K 6,398 27

I bought a working one in 2003 for $500.

#23 5 years ago

LUV

RandomGuyOffCL

Pinside member

9y 83,800 2,075

Trying to turn a WW into a WW?

#24 5 years ago

Darkwing

Pinside+ Frequent

10y 81,550 1,260 1

Awesome condition, too bad it’s got that white trim. Might want to fix that before selling to make it easier.

#25 5 years ago

BRG

IdahoRealtor

Pinside member

Eagle, ID

13y 137K 6,778 11 10

I feel like this guy belongs in there somewhere.

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#26 5 years ago

F W

AUKraut

WilliPinball

7y 113K 2,788

I can say this about the $9000: It would cost more than $9000 for someone to recreate this WH20.

That being said, just because it cost that much to create this pin does not mean it is worth that much on the market. Just as in the classic car hobby or many other collectibles, there are MANY restorations that cost WAY more than the final value. Pinball is no different, and in this case, that does not make this WH2O a $9000 pin......but I bet the market will bear that out.

#27 5 years ago

Blackbeard

Pinside member

12y 106K 12,108 6 20

Quoted from AUKraut:
I can say this about the $9000: It would cost more than $9000 for someone to recreate this wh2o

No it wouldn’t.

#28 5 years ago

F W

AUKraut

WilliPinball

7y 113K 2,788

Quoted from AUKraut:
I can say this about the $9000: It would cost more than $9000 for someone to recreate this WH20.

Quoted from Blackbeard:
No it wouldn’t.

Price out all those things that someone did to it (tasteful or not), both the ones listed in the description and the ones that show up in the pics. It adds up. Then add that to the cost of a stock WH2O pin. It will be over $9K, and that's not counting labor & time.

#29 5 years ago

Blackbeard

Pinside member

12y 106K 12,108 6 20

Quoted from AUKraut:
Price out all those things that someone did to it (tasteful or not), both the ones listed in the description and the ones that show up in the pics. It adds up. Then add that to the cost of a stock WH2O pin. It will be over $9K, and that's not counting labor & time.

Keep
Dreaming.

#30 5 years ago

KBG

Reznnate

Pinside+ Frequent

6y 89,800 801 61

Quoted from Blackbeard:
Keep
Dreaming.

No need to dream, it's math. Confirmed.

#31 5 years ago

SDS

whthrs166

Pinside member

Arvada, CO

10y 93,050 4,526 12

Quoted from Darkwing:
Awesome condition, too bad it’s got that white trim. Might want to fix that before selling to make it easier.

It might be cool to put some Blue Waves in on top of the white armor. You could make it look like water is pouring out of the leg bolts. This wouldn't be that hard to do with an air brush.

#32 5 years ago

DAV

adol75

Pinside member

San Francisco, CA

5y 57,300 2,078 2

I thin there should be a 4th choice in the marketplace price options : X970000

#33 5 years ago

COZ

coz6

Pinside member

Louisville, KY

11y 68,050 2,173 6 10

Quoted from adol75:
I thin there should be a 4th choice in the marketplace price options : X970000

How about the TZ for 12K that has 3K in mods but none are shown.... this is starting to get silly I agree.

#34 5 years ago

DAD

PtownPin

Pinside member

6y 97,400 7,411 67 3

Its a great looking game. If it was more reasonably priced I would jump all over it. Someone asking so much over market is alarming....

#35 5 years ago

COZ

coz6

Pinside member

Louisville, KY

11y 68,050 2,173 6 10

Quoted from PtownPin:
Its a great looking game. If it was more reasonably priced I would jump all over it. Someone asking so much over market is alarming....

I do agree I think its a clean game going for that high end look but its still a white water.

#36 5 years ago

ABE

PinDeLaPin

Pinside member

6y 84,300 3,600

Quoted from coz6:
I do agree I think its a clean game going for that high end look but its still a white water.

You say that dismissively like its a #300 ranked game. Fact is this game is in high demand now. However this ugly ass $9000 mess is a joke

#37 5 years ago

SDS

whthrs166

Pinside member

Arvada, CO

10y 93,050 4,526 12

Bump for a really nice High Water uh I mean White Water.

#38 5 years ago

YOK

Yokimato

Pinside member

5y 58,050 201 11

Eye of the beholder... I like the white, personally.

Good game, wish it was closer and cheaper.

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#39 5 years ago

DVE

Blitzburgh99

Pinside member

10y 111K 4,955

Pull over! Pull over!!! Woooooo!!!!

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#40 5 years ago

WRM

Classic_Stern

Pinside member

Dallas, TX

11y 53,800 1,603 42

Did he mention it actually snows in the game. I don't normally price police but this has gotten dumb. I bought many a WW for $1500 dollars and used to sell them back in the early 2000's for $2500 to $3k. Super nice were $3.5k. Shopped and working well. Not with all of these so called "Upgrades". MM's were $6k at that time and was considered expensive.

#41 5 years ago

DLS

bigd1979

Pinside member

Hagerstown, MD

10y 137K 14,191 8 78

Quoted from Classic_Stern:
Did he mention it actually snows in the game. I don't normally price police but this has gotten dumb. I bought many a WW for $1500 dollars and used to sell them back in the early 2000's for $2500 to $3k. Super nice were $3.5k. Shopped and working well. Not with all of these so called "Upgrades". MM's were $6k at that time and was considered expensive.

Nice restored wh20 with color dmd , nice original topper and other mods sell for 6-8k now . This one is nice but the white makes it a very specific market.

#42 5 years ago

TBK

xTheBlackKnightx

Pinside member

8y 128K 4,097 137

Looks like the same Whitewater that was sold out of Spokane, WA a couple of years back. The price went up again by another $2K. The features are unmistakable.

#43 5 years ago

SYD

Onwallst

Pinside member

Denver, CO

8y 82,550 655 95

Quoted from whthrs166:
Bump for a really nice High Water uh I mean White Water.

Yes High Water. I agree.

#44 5 years ago

SYD

Onwallst

Pinside member

Denver, CO

8y 82,550 655 95

Quoted from xTheBlackKnightx:
Looks like the same Whitewater that was sold out of Spokane, WA a couple of years back. The price went up again by another $2K. The features are unmistakable.

Completely fair....it grew $1k per year. Easily.

#45 5 years ago

SYD

Onwallst

Pinside member

Denver, CO

8y 82,550 655 95

Quoted from coz6:
How about the TZ for 12K that has 3K in mods but none are shown.... this is starting to get silly I agree.

You that game is special. It has a direct link to “the twilight zone” as this High Water has the real snow module.

#46 5 years ago

???

Utesichiban

Pinside member

Sandy, UT

7y 78,550 2,056 10 24

Quoted from AUKraut:
Price out all those things that someone did to it (tasteful or not), both the ones listed in the description and the ones that show up in the pics. It adds up. Then add that to the cost of a stock WH2O pin. It will be over $9K, and that's not counting labor & time.

He might get 9k with a new playfield, ramps, etc with all those mods. With the mods alone? I'm not seeing it

#47 5 years ago

SDC

Archytas

Pinside member

Kettering

10y 76,150 285 1 152

Why do sellers expect buyers to eat the price of their mods to a game when they come to sell it?

I bought a ST Pro for £4250, added £250 worth of mods but sold it for £4250. Those mods were my choice and the buyer might not have cared for them, ripping them out straight away once they got the game home. You shouldn't be expecting the buyer to cover your costs for these.

#48 5 years ago

F W

AUKraut

WilliPinball

7y 113K 2,788

Quoted from Utesichiban:
He might get 9k with a new playfield, ramps, etc with all those mods. With the mods alone? I'm not seeing it

Oh I agree, it's not a $9K pin. Based on present going rates for WH2O I can see low 7s if the mods are to your taste, as it seems to be well done from the pics. My point was that the cost of recreating this pin using a standard run of the mill WH2O with all the new parts and mods used for this one would be over $9K. Classic case of spending more on the restoration/modifications than the item is actually worth.

#49 5 years ago

???

JoeGrenuk

In Memoriam

Melbourne Beach, FL

11y 47,900 771 41

Whitewater has long been recognized as the most expensive game to restore...a set of ramps, a dome, and a set of mountains is a grand, right off the bat. No other game can compete with that.

And then you have to deal with replacing all that white powder....

#50 5 years ago

???

snaroff

Pinside member

Jupiter, FL

11y 93,800 5,836 15

9k might be a bit on the high side, but not outrageous. The obstacle with selling this game isn't the quality, it's the highly stylized appearance (I'm not a fan of the white trim and coin door).

If I were to sell mine, I'd price it @ 7k. Doesn't have as much "bling", but is a stunning example. For me, it's a unique game that will never leave my collection. Considering the crap being produced today, WH20 is a standout for any ramp loving pinball collector. Great ruleset and wizard mode.

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