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For sale: White Water


By yzfguy

1 year ago



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#1 1 year ago

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$ 5,000 (Firm)

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For sale: White Water

Added: February 12th, 2018 Ended: March 5th, 2018
Condition: Used - shows wear but 100% working and clean

Item description

The good:

All new ramps approx 2 yrs ago
All new boulders set
Metal target protectors and boulders protectors
New topper dome
Boulder shooter rod
Raft mods
No longer available missing mountain mod
pingraffix side blades
Missing plastic mod for left inlane
New playfield glass
LEDs in all inserts and flashers

Game plays perfectly and had full flipper mech replacements from pinball life installed approx 2 years ago and strong and fast as they should be.
No lost mine wear.


The not so good;
Drilled for lockdown bar
Plays perfectly, but does have insert wear on rafts and one arrow insert. Close up pics make them look worse than the game shows.
Cabinet has little or no fade, but a couple bumps and bruises.
Pictures show a color display that has since been replaced with original.
No stairs, easy pickup.


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Jefferson, NJ, US


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#2 1 year ago

I love Wh20 - great game. GLWTS

#4 1 year ago

Nice example. If I didn't already own one, you'd be getting a call. And if I had your number. Anyway...

"Hey, you've found the secret passage!" bump!

#5 1 year ago
Quoted from Lermods:

Nice game, would love to own one.

I’m sure he would trade for LOTR.

#7 1 year ago

I'm primarily looking to get an Addams or a lotr, but I would entertain local trade offers.

Added 19 months ago: Found a new game... Can't fit a trade anymore

#8 1 year ago

A game came up locally that I want, so I'd like this outta here Come get this for 5400 with colordmd. Cash and Carry, no steps to deal with, easy load.

#9 1 year ago

Brent’s pins are all in excellent condition and he does a great job with his mods.

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#10 1 year ago

Smoking deal

#11 1 year ago

Beautiful pin. GLWS

#13 1 year ago

Couple of nibbles but no commitment. Someone come take this.

#14 1 year ago
Quoted from yzfguy:

Couple of nibbles but no commitment. Someone come take this.

may want to take a look around at what other condition/cost wh2o are advertised for/sold in the more recent past and adjust.

There have been quite a few out in all the usual places lately to compare to and adjust if you are so inclined.

GLWS

#15 1 year ago

Looking for a White Water -- wish you were closer. I prefer to pickup in person and Jersey is just a bit too far. . .

#16 1 year ago
Quoted from Whysnow:

may want to take a look around at what other condition/cost wh2o are advertised for/sold in the more recent past and adjust.
There have been quite a few out in all the usual places lately to compare to and adjust if you are so inclined.
GLWS

I appreciate you being polite about the price
Here's how I see it: even if you aren't into the mods like missing mountain, shooter rod....
The ramps and colordmd are a grand right there. So a base price of 4400 seems right on par to me. It plays perfectly and shows great in person.

#17 1 year ago
Quoted from yzfguy:

I appreciate you being polite about the price
Here's how I see it: even if you aren't into the mods like missing mountain, shooter rod....
The ramps and colordmd are a grand right there. So a base price of 4400 seems right on par to me. It plays perfectly and shows great in person.

I think most people are scared off by this >>>

Quoted from yzfguy:

but does have insert wear on rafts and one arrow insert

sadly, chipped inserts are something that tends to really impact value for most. I know for me personally, the pf is always my biggest thing.

If you value the mods at a grand then I honestly would pull them and sell them separate to reduce the price. Mods rarely get out what they cost to put in.
Cheers

#18 1 year ago
Quoted from Whysnow:

If you value the mods at a grand then I honestly would pull them and sell them separate to reduce the price. Mods rarely get out what they cost to put in.
Cheers

I don’t know if new ramps count as a “mod” and are expensive on a wh2o.

#19 1 year ago
Quoted from Whysnow:

I think most people are scared off by this >>>

sadly, chipped inserts are something that tends to really impact value for most. I know for me personally, the pf is always my biggest thing.
If you value the mods at a grand then I honestly would pull them and sell them separate to reduce the price. Mods rarely get out what they cost to put in.
Cheers

Like I stated in the ad, I pointed out the insert wear and zoomed in to be completely honest about the condition. It is some slight wear at the edge of the rafts and not an unsightly thing. The game shows nice and plays like butta.....
Whysnow, you're pushing your luck.... I may not buy you a beer at Allentown now !

#20 1 year ago

Most people dont like paying for new ramps already installed....I think the chipped inserts really hurts. most things can be replaced easily except the pf....My last 2 pins I had to keep dropping price until they both sold.....You drop the price some and this game will sell. People are still digesting 5k Whitewater's

#21 1 year ago
Quoted from yzfguy:

Whysnow, you're pushing your luck.... I may not buy you a beer at Allentown now !

i will shut up

#22 1 year ago

I think it's a fair price. I'd value a bone stock game in this condition at max $4,500. The ColorDMD, new ramps, new boulders, target protector and new dome I would consider that value added...but only at about 75% of original value. The rest of the stuff that's listed I wouldn't pay extra for. So, $5,400 for this game in this condition seems reasonable. He is giving a $300 discount without the ColorDMD.

#23 1 year ago

Free delivery to an Allentown Hotel of your choice?

#24 1 year ago
Quoted from Butch2099:

Free delivery to an Allentown Hotel of your choice?

Dont think he wants to hold it 2 1/2 months

#25 1 year ago
Quoted from billsfanmd:

Dont think he wants to hold it 2 1/2 months

It's an Allentown Hotel joke from the other thread..

#26 1 year ago

I would take the wh20 at 5k and a nice TZ with mods at 6.....But I'm about 6 months late to the party

#27 1 year ago
Quoted from schudel5:

I think it's a fair price. I'd value a bone stock game in this condition at max $4,500. The ColorDMD, new ramps, new boulders, target protector and new dome I would consider that value added..
He is giving a $300 discount without the ColorDMD.

Few thoughts on this since no one did or would ask. I find this the toughest part of pricing; how much can you charge for parts of a game that are "new," that are part of the original purchase you'd be making anyway?
How much does a new ramp add over an old ramp? I mean "I'm buying" a Wh20, so I assume it has ramps on it, if it didn't I'd be deducting price to replace them. But a straight 75% for 2 year old ramps...2 or 3 of them you don't even see? Always been an interesting subject for me.

bump - I thought it would have sold by now.

#28 1 year ago
Quoted from TheLaw:

Few thoughts on this since no one did or would ask. I find this the toughest part of pricing; how much can you charge for parts of a game that are "new," that are part of the original purchase you'd be making anyway?
How much does a new ramp add over an old ramp? I mean "I'm buying" a Wh20, so I assume it has ramps on it, if it didn't I'd be deducting price to replace them. But a straight 75% for 2 year old ramps...2 or 3 of them you don't even see? Always been an interesting subject for me.
bump - I thought it would have sold by now.

I have always thought the same thing, great point.

#29 1 year ago

So, by that logic....
Let's go to the cargument.
If I buy a 23 year old car, am I paying the same for one with bald tires, 23 yr old brake pads and a cracked windshield as the one on the lot across the street with a new windshield, , fresh brakes and new shoes?

#30 1 year ago
Quoted from yzfguy:

So, by that logic....
Let's go to the cargument.
If I buy a 23 year old car, am I paying the same for one with bald tires, 23 yr old brake pads and a cracked windshield as the one on the lot across the street with a new windshield, , fresh brakes and new shoes?

Totally agree with this logic and think the OP has priced the machine well. For a game with a bunch of ramps and plastics (boulders) that are prone to cracking and whatnot, I believe new ramps and boulders are a value add. You can't expect to get 100% of your cost for those items back, but you shouldn't expect to completely lost on those additions either. Hell, even a $400 colorDMD that most buyers want doesn't usually fetch a full return...it's typically 75% at $300.

I think it's a nice machine and I am surprised it hasn't sold yet, especially after the price drop. I've encountered many whitewaters in inferior condition and the asking price wasn't too much lower than what the OP is asking

glws

#31 1 year ago
Quoted from yzfguy:

So, by that logic....
Let's go to the cargument.

But carguments are dumb and are just filled with silly false equivalencies.

Quoted from yzfguy:

If I buy a 23 year old car, am I paying the same for one with bald tires, 23 yr old brake pads and a cracked windshield as the one on the lot across the street with a new windshield, , fresh brakes and new shoes?

Yep, that'll do it.

But seriously, I don't know the answer which is why I brought it up. I would say brakes on a car are obviously nothing like ramps so I don't know there. Cracked windshield might be closer...were you old ramps cracked?

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#32 1 year ago

How can you list a WH20 for sale without a full description of the topper? I see you list a new dome but is the decal original and un-wrinkled? That alone is worth more than the ramps these days. Not trying to single you out but every time I see a WH20 listed without this detail I just immediately assume it's not an original topper.

#33 1 year ago
Quoted from bobukcat:

How can you list a WH20 for sale without a full description of the topper? I see you list a new dome but is the decal original and un-wrinkled? That alone is worth more than the ramps these days. Not trying to single you out but every time I see a WH20 listed without this detail I just immediately assume it's not an original topper.

I think were beating this post to death...most toppers I have had were wrinkled. Bottom line: at 5k this game sells in an hour

#34 1 year ago

I am adding some cab pics and a topper pic to the ad.the topper is "original", it had fade so has the cutout decal with detailed cutouts of the boulders so all of the foil shows the waterfall effect. So still the good condition foil, with the freshened up look of the colored portion. I wish I could post a movie clip on here.

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#36 1 year ago
Quoted from gliebig:

Interested in a Congo?

Thanks, but I can't take trades anymore. I need a bigger house

#37 1 year ago

Sold mine in Simalar condition for 5500 couple weeks ago price is the current standard give or take glwts looks nice

#38 1 year ago

I'll take the color screen. if the op wants to sell that separate.

#39 1 year ago
Quoted from tonycip:

I'll take the color screen. if the op wants to sell that separate.

Thanks, I have another game to put that in. If someone wants this without it, I'll keep it.

#40 1 year ago
Quoted from yzfguy:

Thanks, I have another game to put that in. If someone wants this without it, I'll keep it.

Ill take the leg levelers if the OP wants to sell that separate. sheesh.

#41 1 year ago
Quoted from bobukcat:

How can you list a WH20 for sale without a full description of the topper? I see you list a new dome but is the decal original and un-wrinkled? That alone is worth more than the ramps these days. Not trying to single you out but every time I see a WH20 listed without this detail I just immediately assume it's not an original topper.

Are you in the market for a wh2o since you are tracking topper listings/descriptions?

#42 1 year ago
Quoted from shlockdoc:

Ill take the leg levelers if the OP wants to sell that separate. sheesh.

Dibs on the back box latch.

#43 1 year ago

Coming to buffalo anytime soon op?

#44 1 year ago
Quoted from mjm697:

Coming to buffalo anytime soon op?

Almost..... I will be at Pintastic!

#45 1 year ago
Quoted from sulli10:

Dibs on the back box latch.

Shucks!

#46 1 year ago
Quoted from shlockdoc:

Are you in the market for a wh2o since you are tracking topper listings/descriptions?

Yes, but I'm not sure why that matters at the moment.

#47 1 year ago
Quoted from mjm697:

Coming to buffalo anytime soon op?

Buy it. I picked up a WH20 about 10 months ago and it’s been a hit in my book. A classic game with a great layout.

#48 1 year ago

Hmmmm.... Fantastic topper, clean unfaded cabinet, color DMD, all new ramps. Strangely no lost mine kickout wear. And... great seller. Why hasn't this sold yet? Somebody buy this, ASAP. I just sold mine and I have to sell another game to fit one on the way. Still so tempting. Also, our collections are starting to weirdly morph into each other's haha.

#49 1 year ago
Quoted from GorillaBiscuits:

Hmmmm.... Fantastic topper, clean unfaded cabinet, color DMD, all new ramps. Strangely no lost mine kickout wear. And... great seller. Why hasn't this sold yet? Somebody buy this, ASAP. I just sold mine and I have to sell another game to fit one on the way. Still so tempting. Also, our collections are starting to weirdly morph into each other's haha.

Lol, thanks. I never thought I would get rid of this game, but I have had it a long time and have limited space

#50 1 year ago
Quoted from GorillaBiscuits:

Why hasn't this sold yet? Somebody buy this, ASAP. I just sold mine and I have to sell another game to fit one on the way.

I guess you somewhat filled the local demand when you sold yours. It does look super nice, and that's the only machine I have listed on my "wishlist". Would love to buy, but just bought 2 recently that I'm not willing to part with. Would need to sell in order to buy, very tempting though.

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