Theatre of Magic
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Added: 2019-08-20 22:00:00 UTC
• Re-listed: 3 times (February 14th, 2024)
Condition: Fully shopped/refurbished
I swear I'm not saying this to be shitty, but $15.5k demands extremely clear and detailed photos. These are... Lower quality. You might want to flip a few 100 to a professional photographer to present this better and help you sell.
I think this is the game being sold. Looks to be fairly recent @2015
When finished
http://christopherhutchins.com/gallery/album631
This is the restoration.
http://christopherhutchins.com/gallery/album604
Quoted from musketd:Am I missing something here ?
Not really. The seller is trying to sell it for what the HEP restoration cost! Usually that is a tough proposition.
Quoted from thedarkknight77:What’s with NJ pinheads???
Nothing personal it’s just business, capiche?
Quoted from thedarkknight77:What’s with NJ pinheads???
High State Taxes! No Federal deductions anymore, Pinball prices soar! Move to Florida or Nevada and live it up.
Quoted from thedarkknight77:What’s with NJ pinheads???
They also don’t think road rules or common law applies to them!
I just sold a fully restored TOM that would go toe to toe with this one all day for $8k. Now, mine did not have brass, but it did have a great topper. Good luck. Your price is about $6500 too high.
Quoted from EvanDickson:I swear I'm not saying this to be shitty, but $15.5k demands extremely clear and detailed photos. These are... Lower quality. You might want to flip a few 100 to a professional photographer to present this better and help you sell.
Not to be shitty, but if its a semi recent HEP it could be as blurry as a photo of sasquatch and you still know its going to be a quality rebuild.
jp (resized).jpgDo HEP restored games ever actually sell for this much? I see them listed for $10k+ all the time, but I don't think I ever actually see them get sold. I think a lot of people need to understand 99% of the time you'll never get your money back on restorations and you should really only be doing it as a passion project.
Quoted from atrainn:Do HEP restored games ever actually sell for this much? I see them listed for $10k+ all the time, but I don't think I ever actually see them get sold. I think a lot of people need to understand 99% of the time you'll never get your money back on restorations and you should really only be doing it as a passion project.
4 years since the restore. That can be a lot of plays and wear and tear.
Quoted from atrainn:Do HEP restored games ever actually sell for this much? I see them listed for $10k+ all the time, but I don't think I ever actually see them get sold. I think a lot of people need to understand 99% of the time you'll never get your money back on restorations and you should really only be doing it as a passion project.
Depends on the title mostly.
$15k for any TOM would be a record but if it were one of the HEP King Kong’s it would be a steal.
For me the titles are irrelevant I build them all the same. So it would be like a mechanic worrying about what a car that he is working on is worth.
Quoted from EvanDickson:4 years since the restore. That can be a lot of plays and wear and tear.
Hence the need for better photos
Quoted from High_End_Pins:Depends on the title mostly.
$15k for any TOM would be a record but if it were one of the HEP King Kong’s it would be a steal.
For me the titles are irrelevant I build them all the same. So it would be like a mechanic worrying about what a car that he is working on is worth.
Oh for sure. You do amazing work, so hopefully you don't think I was saying anything negative about your work.
Quoted from atrainn:Oh for sure. You do amazing work, so hopefully you don't think I was saying anything negative about your work.
No I didn’t. $15k TOMs would be a hard sell for anyone.
An HEP version of a game in general is going to command more than most others so that is about all that anyone can expect realistically.
Quoted from ccbiggsoo7:I think id take a $7500-8k offer and cry for about 3 weeks.
Yep....theres another HEP TOM for sale for $9K....$8500 is a reasonable price
If you have HEP restore one of your games, awesome!! But don't try and get your money back when you sell it. Ain't happenin.
Quoted from seenev:Isn't TOM a potential remake title?
Not that I know of. I’m not sure they will ever remake any Jpop games, unless it’s a Zizzle remake.
Quoted from Colsond3:Not that I know of. I’m not sure they will ever remake any Jpop games, unless it’s a Zizzle remake.
Why not? Does he hold the rights?
Quoted from seenev:Why not?
Because he’s a big dbag and no longer regarded well in the hobby. A shame. Because TOM is a killer game and I’d be all over a remake.
Quoted from seenev:Does he hold the rights?
Probably not, although I don’t know if he retained any IP or royalty rights for games he designed.
this is the best thread today. thank you!!!!
the curtain better BE VELVET!!!! also, need a vid of the saw in action.
thanks,
hog
I can't believe someone hasn't stooped to the "for 15k it better have sex with me" low. Maybe pinside has turned a corner?
Quoted from Colsond3:Because he’s a big dbag and no longer regarded well in the hobby. A shame. Because TOM is a killer game and I’d be all over a remake.
Probably not, although I don’t know if he retained any IP or royalty rights for games he designed.
I believe Planetary confirmed long ago that TOM was on the list of potential remakes. I also dont think JPOP owns anything other then a list of useless pattons for crap that mostly doesn't work.
Quoted from jgentry:I believe Planetary confirmed long ago that TOM was on the list of potential remakes. I also dont think JPOP owns anything other then a list of useless pattons for crap that mostly doesn't work.
LMAO. Thanks jgent, I needed that.
I know it was on the list of potential remakes when that was released by Rick/PPS, but I’ve never seen anything confirming that it would actually be done or is in the works. If I recall, there were a few games on that list that they weren’t sure would ever be remade.
I could be wrong, and I hope I am. I would grab a remake, or a cheaper original once the remake comes out.
Quoted from adamross:Doubt the remakes will come with that sweet custom curtain cover.
When the cover gets pulled off, do you yell “ Presto, Change- O!” ?
Quoted from PinMagnet:I'd give 10 grand cash in person for this pin sure.
Make it happen 
The custom, satin cloak is my favorite part of this listing! Really, I can't see much of the game in these photos anyway, so it's all about the cloak!
GLWTS.
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