I filled the cup.

€ 18,000 = $20,178.00 USD + packaging + shipping + mods

Where's all the outrAge that was in the Predator thread about selling copyrighted materal? Even going so far as posting the name and address of the person that bought the machine.

his name isn't kevin

I love the Matrix but I'll wait to play it Expo. Looks pretty cool though.

Played one of these at CAX. It's amazing.

Who's bring one of these to Expo?.... The Matrix is Awesome.

OP good luck with your sale, I can't believe you are selling it.

The outrage over Predator was that Kevin said he had the legal right to produce it. The buyers didn't know the risk they were taking because they were lied to. Big difference between these 2 situations.

Wow..... do you accept offers?

It was listed on the Expo site as one of the boutique machines that was going to be there.

So would this still be copyright infringement or no? Wasn't that the big uproar in the Predator thread lately and why everyone was mad at the guy buying the prototype? I get that a lot of people got ripped off in the Predator situation and that's not happening here. Could be totally wrong, hope I am, just curious if this is different in some way.

Gulp that is a price tag.
Looks fantastic and fun wish I could play one. JM will have to due I guess.

GLWS this was a labor of love for sure

I would buy, but it's JUST outside my driving radius.

if you have to ask how much .........

Why the questions? What's the problem? Are you upset that everyone isn't pissed at this dutch guy? Or are are you pissed that everyone was pissed at Kevin? Can you really not see the differences in these situations? Have you ever been to Utrecht, and if so do you agree with me that's it's a really cool city? And if so, were you at the recent Judas Priest Concert at Tivoli like me, and did you find it totally awesome? If you try really hard can you think of some reasons why THIS situation is different from the Predator one?

Where? It was just posted, give it time.

First let me start by saying it is illegal. But it is different and will be treated so for a few reasons. It is one game and it is made. He is not collecting money to make and sell them to people. This is not an ongoing business. If it was on ebay he might be asked to take it down or get a C&D. Mostly, a one-off one time sale will not be worth getting lawyers involved.

To me it is the hypocrisy of the whole thing. You have one guy who bought a prototype that violates copyright and there is a group here of people who do their damndest to involve him in a mess and strip him of the machine. Then you have another guy trying to flip a pin that violates copyright for $20,000 usd.

Worth it. Lots of work. Time. Printing. Mods. If you don't like the price make your own and see how much it costs. My Johnny is aleady way past traditional value with the few things I have on it.

Who wants a 3k Johnny? No...OK...do it yourself...

To which I mean good luck with the sale

Ok... So again , what you are saying is that you want to see more outrage over this proposed matrix sale? Or less outrage over the predator sale?

Or are you just outraged at the "hypocrisy" here?

What's the deal bro?

BTW. What kevin did was decive people. There is no deceptions here

Also you get a game for 20k. More than I can say for jpop or Kevin. Sonas far as it goes this is pretty honest.

There's a lot of reasons why this is apples and oranges but when you think you've come up with a clever angle you just gotta let it fly!!! Even if you have no real point beyond "but the hypocrisy!!"

The problem with predator was many people got ripped off with deceit. There are lawsuits and legal issues ongoing. No where near the same issue as someone selling a one-off.

I'll say it again....you got 20k you got a game.

There are plenty one offs that have been sold. Goonies anyone?

This is much different. This machine wasn't built with thousands of stolen dollars. It was made as a one off and sold as such. Predator was crowd funded by preorders then once the money was stolen the prototype was sold.

You crazy....Levi

I don't know the history behind this game but I wonder if it would be worth it to offer this pin to Stern or JJP as a prototype game. Either of those companies can save a fortune in design costs/code, OP could get full $ for the one pin and the rest of us may have a chance to buy a Matrix pin in the future. Might be a win for everyone.

Someone trying to flip a copyright infringement pin for ridiculous money, more than anything I have seen. There being a chance that this person is distributing a number of these under the guise that there is only one. Posting people's identies online and using bullshit casus belli to mess with them when most here would jump on it given the chance.

If it's a remade JM, then it seems likely that this is a Williams license.

Sounds like you're looking for drama, just keep it over in one of the already poisoned threads.

It's a one-off game that looks really cool, and it's for sale for a lot of money. Whatever I'm not really in the market for it.

All that other bullshit means nothing to me. Sorry the hypocrisy on display just doesn't upset me that much.

if you are that upset about it, then start an anonymous group and notify Warner Bros. IP counsel.

No real coin door????.....WTF.....I am out!....lol.......Beautiful game!

Removed my comment. Not looking to crap on the sale. I was just participating in the conversation.
Good luck with sale of this cool custom machine.

Absolutely beautiful game! I could never imagine selling it!

Wish I could do it....Love that you chose one of the best themes, Matrix,
and we have even titled our upcoming product release as such!

A really special pin here! 20 thumbs up!

1 game, no preorder money was taken, totally different situation.. How many people have custom translites or scorecards on their games, how many mods are out there with no license.. Price is high, but no idea of time and cost to make it..

This is nothing like that aweful Preditor event, no one was lied to, or paid a bunch of money to be scammed buy a Liar who gave false information about having the rights to make several and sell for profits.

Glwts

one off re-theme of a 10 year old franchise? The owners of the matrix IP should pay him for making the movie relevant again, especially after all the recent flops by the Wachowski brothers...err i mean siblings.

I have no vested interest in the Predator issue, but the little i have read here makes me believe they were all deceived into funding a project that was never approved for mass production vs a re-themed one off.

There aren't "a number" of these in the world to be distributed. Let's lay off the bs copyright talk and let the guy sell his game. Just because you can't afford the game doesn't mean you need to spoil it for everyone.

This is an amazing pin. Curious, how many of them did they make? 4? Just really hard to swallow one pin being worth over $20,000, but then again, it's super rare, a theme everyone knows, and for some, $20,000 is a single paycheck.

Good luck on the sale. Very cool custom mod to an already fun layout pin in JM. Value is what someone is willing to pay.

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Just look at bert in your avatar and I think you have an answer

That's one of a kind.....but to rich for my blood

First.....this is my dream pin....and yes I've played it. I must have put a dozen games on it at expo. But...I'm not a millionaire so this is not for me.

Second.....not entirely a "one of". I believe three? were made in total? One is in California right now and all I'll say is that the price was north of what MM used to sell for before MMr was announced.

Third - There really is no comparison between this and Predator. Kevin LIED to everyone. That was and remains the biggest issue.....well that and stealing everyone's money.

Good skins and music but... in its bones it's still a JM. Which, of course, is a fun game, but a $20k game? I remember when this project was getting off the ground and everyone was excited about the prospects of a kit and then it all fizzled out. Sad to see this on the block as the end result of that project, but I guess everything is for sale at some point. Just sort of seems like foreclosure of a dream...

Clearly you have never played it. Of course it has the same layout as JM......but same game? Not even close. I owned a JM and The Matrix plays completely differently. It goes WAY beyond "skin and music". Hell they even added features like a playfield magnet. Very elaborate rules that are deeper than JM's. Not to mention the video animations and call outs.

Worth 20k? Well not to 99.99% of us.......but it only takes one. (Or is that "The One"?)