For sale: The Big Lebowski

Does the "medical emergency" excuse protect sellers from the price police?

#6 4 years ago

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PantherCityPins

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5y 102K 2,656 21

Not to downplay the sellers medical issues but it seems all the flippers of this game feel a need to post some excuse of why they are flipping it for a massive profit.

#7 4 years ago

LEV

CrazyLevi

I've never once felt the need to explain why I'm selling a game in an ad.

I figure it's just a given I want/need your money more than I want/need the pinball machine I'm selling.

That's why people sell stuff, right?

#8 4 years ago

MJA

Mitch

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Wellesley, ON

10y 131K 5,030 18 38

Quoted from CrazyLevi:
Does the "medical emergency" excuse protect sellers from the price police?

That's why I offered 13k. He makes a little money and would instantly have 13k for priority medical expenses.

#9 4 years ago

DOG

Whysnow

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I was under the impression these were selling for 12.5?

#10 4 years ago

LEV

CrazyLevi

Quoted from Whysnow:
I was under the impression these were selling for 12.5?

They were, but they are sold out. You won't find one at that price.

If you want one now you gotta find someone with a medical emergency who needs $22K.

-1

#11 4 years ago

LAW

dung

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12y 86,050 5,578 6 30

Quoted from CrazyLevi:
They were, but they are sold out. You won't find one at that price.
If you want one now you gotta find someone with a medical emergency who needs $22K.

So many medical emergencies these days. Its almost like sellers of this need medicinal money to hit their bank account...

#12 4 years ago

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woody76

Pinball Marketing

Nashville, TN

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Quoted from CrazyLevi:
They were, but they are sold out. You won't find one at that price.
If you want one now you gotta find someone with a medical emergency who needs $22K.

hilarious. I spit some coffee out reading this.

#13 4 years ago

jake35

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what's with the pinside $1,000 extra charge?

#14 4 years ago

LEV

CrazyLevi

inlandempire.craigslist.org link

Quoted from jake35:
what's with the pinside $1,000 extra charge?

It's to cover the pinside sales fee.

#15 4 years ago

JES

ArcadiusMaximus

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Pittsburgh, PA

11y 61,550 1,212 4

Quoted from jake35:
what's with the pinside $1,000 extra charge?

Additional money to cover the service charge for completing a sale on pinside?

#16 4 years ago

ROB

Rdoyle1978

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Sorry to hear about the issues, hope it sells!

#17 4 years ago

ERC

Ericc123

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Is this one of the original 40 or is this one of the new ARA games that just got released?

#18 4 years ago

COS

cosmokramer

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There has been a NIB TBL sitting on the inland empire craigslist for 17.5k

#19 4 years ago

SMK

TheLaw

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Ann Arbor, MI

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Quoted from jake35:
what's with the pinside $1,000 extra charge?

I've wondered in 80% of all Pinside ads for years....

#20 4 years ago

MJA

Mitch

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Wellesley, ON

10y 131K 5,030 18 38

Quoted from Ericc123:
Is this one of the original 40 or is this one of the new ARA games that just got released?

New Ara that just got released.

#21 4 years ago

DAB

Pinhead1982

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I don’t want to take anything away- but TBLs will be Likely be coming out soon at $12500

#22 4 years ago

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stevevt

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Quoted from Pinhead1982:
Likely

Quoted from Pinhead1982:
soon

I lol'd.

#23 4 years ago

DAB

Pinhead1982

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Quoted from stevevt:
I lol'd.

I will be!

#24 4 years ago

SMD

stevevt

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Quoted from Pinhead1982:
I will be!

You might be a comedy prodigy. Got me again.

#25 4 years ago

WLF

wlf_

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glws

#26 4 years ago

DHF

fosaisu

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Just to clarify, OP bought a rare machine for $12.5k, market price is somewhere north of that, he now wants to sell it, but the consensus is he should let it go at cost so that one of you guys can reap the financial windfall instead? Sounds legit.

#27 4 years ago

DTS

dts

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Post last edited 4 years ago: “My opinion is irrelevant. GLWS for family.”

#28 4 years ago

EDG

Richthofen

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Quoted from Pinhead1982:
I don’t want to take anything away- but TBLs will be Likely be coming out soon at $12500

I'm not paying $22K for a TBL, but I'm also equally not holding my breath expecting Barry to build these in his basement. A bird in the hand, etc.

#29 4 years ago

DHF

fosaisu

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https://anchor.fm/never-got-famous/episodes/Walks-with-Albert---The-Big-Beckoning-Lebowski-e5d0it

Quoted from dts:
If you want to be a good guy in the pinball community, sell this rare game to an EA who will keep it and deserves to own one, for a fair price, which is in the range of $12,500 to $15k used, with the agreement to buy back if the EA chooses to sell, again for a fair price.

I don't know OP or his situation. Maybe he bought Lebowski to flip, maybe he really wanted one but needs the cash now, none of my business either way. I'm not going to tell him to leave a couple of grand on the table and enter into some kind of long-term option contract with a stranger he met on the internet so he can be considered a "good guy in the pinball community." And I'm not going to hold it against him if he tries to sell something for market value (I'm not saying he's there now, he's probably still too high, but that's clearly what he's aiming at).

The people that carp about people selling above cost on Pinside generally behave just like everyone else when it's their turn to sell a game, so it's hard to take it too seriously.

#30 4 years ago

TIM

Tuna_Delight

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An outsider's (?) perspective on the TBL debacle:

#31 4 years ago

LAW

dung

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Quoted from fosaisu:
I don't know OP or his situation. Maybe he bought Lebowski to flip, maybe he really wanted one but needs the cash now, none of my business either way. I'm not going to tell him to leave a couple of grand on the table and enter into some kind of long-term option contract with a stranger he met on the internet so he can be considered a "good guy in the pinball community." And I'm not going to hold it against him if he tries to sell something for market value (I'm not saying he's there now, he's probably still too high, but that's clearly what he's aiming at).
The people that carp about people selling above cost on Pinside generally behave just like everyone else when it's their turn to sell a game, so it's hard to take it too seriously.

Except he isn't leaving a grand on the table. There is one available for 17k and it hasn't sold either. Part of what is killing the value of TBL is that the number available almost doubled and there is potential for more. Not many people are going to throw 22k at something there is a real chance will be available for 12.5 brand new. Now, if dutch finally closes for good and given time it may rise back up to the 20k plus, or it may not. All in all market seems soft at the moment. Look how much stuff is sitting with dropping prices.

#32 4 years ago

LEV

CrazyLevi

Quoted from fosaisu:
Just to clarify, OP bought a rare machine for $12.5k, market price is somewhere north of that, he now wants to sell it, but the consensus is he should let it go at cost so that one of you guys can reap the financial windfall instead? Sounds legit.

The consensus is nobody cares about his medical emergency sob story. Shouldn't be included in his ad and will do zero to help him scalp his game.

Couldn't care less what he asks for it. Someone wants to give him a $10k profit on that lemon who am I to stop them?

#33 4 years ago

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fosaisu

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Quoted from dung:
Except he isn't leaving a grand on the table.

As I said, I don't think he's got it set at market price now and don't see it going for $21k. But I think he's several thousand below market if he sell for $12.5k, as some here seem to be advocating for.

#34 4 years ago

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fosaisu

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https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/pinside-marketplace-excuses

Quoted from cosmokramer:
There has been a NIB TBL sitting on the inland empire craigslist for 17.5k
inlandempire.craigslist.org link

Useful data point, although that machine appears to be located within Lake Elsinore. Concern about potential water damage may be limiting demand.
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#35 4 years ago

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o-din

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What kind of medical procedures can one get for $21k these days?

Quoted from fosaisu:
Useful data point, although that machine appears to be located in Lake Elsinore. Concern about potential water damage may be limiting demand.

Good point because that is one nasty lake.

#36 4 years ago

CWB

Charliew65

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11y 96,300 1,178

Quoted from dts:
If you guys are in pinball to make money, you’re investing badly.

Not on this one...Ethics aside this was not a bad investment.

Why didn’t you buy them all up so you could be the good guy in the community?

#37 4 years ago

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PantherCityPins

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If someone wants to flip TBL then do it. It just seems a little odd that the three flippers have each put excuses in their for sale posts of why they have to sell for such a huge profit. If you don't have moral qualms about flipping a game that someone else already paid for and got screwed on then fine, sell it.

I wish someone would put one up for sale and put "Yeah, I'm flipping it for max profit, taste it!" in their ad.

#38 4 years ago

SBS

o-din

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Quoted from PantherCityPins:
It just seems a little odd that the three flippers have each put excuses in their for sale posts

This has been going on way longer since before these overpriced hunk of turds started hitting the market.

Many sellers are just full of excuses, period.

#39 4 years ago

JLW

Wineinger09

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Polk City, IA

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Someone who has 12.5k to buy a pinball machine but not enough cash reserves to cover a medical emergency has their priorities mixed up. Do you not have insurance and if not why the hell not if you can afford this game? And if you do have insurance what is the maximum your deductible could be? I call bs

#40 4 years ago

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fosaisu

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