For sale: The Big Lebowski

A guy is selling/sold a used Whitewater from 1993 for $14,000 (sale pending) in which 7000 were produced and far from rare. And everybody is high fiving this guy.

https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/83828

Meanwhile this TBL which is NIB and less than 100 in the wild is getting downvoted for $25K?

Ridiculous comp. Recent HEP restorations are routinely 15k and up (to commission/produce). 7000 WH20’s, but only ~10 are HEP WH20’s...and the one you reference was done very recently. People love WH20 because it’s an awesome GAME. People love TBL because of the license and rarity. I’d love one, but only if it’s produced by a standup company that is in business. I have no interest in games from belly up companies...!

Yeah, that HEP will be working flawlessly in years to come when most of these TBL's will be parts machines.

I don't understand why anyone would pay $25k for a pinball machine you can likely get for $10k less if you just wait for a couple weeks. This is "have to have it now" syndrome to the nth degree. I guarantee at least 15 of the 40 machines will be for sale in the next two weeks and competition will drive the price down.

Competition may indeed drive prices down, but I'd bet against them routinely going for $15k by mid-September. These are, and remain, very rare games.

Whitewater is an awesome game, and I would take that one in a heartbeat. What im saying though is both are worth the higher price range but one of the 2 is getting flack. I bet if you put a straight up poll "What would you rather have, an HEP Whitewater or TBL NIB" im betting on the TBL would win that poll

I'm just saying TBL was a $20k game when there were 50. There are now 90. This guy is asking $5k more than the game was when it was much rarer!

Which makes you actually want to play it, awesomeness or rarity?

Well technically I would think rarity would make you less likely to play it because you want to keep it in pristine condition.

If both games were 14k (the price of the HEP WH20), no doubt you are correct. Since TBL is 10k more, it's a silly comp...

At 12k, TBL was a nice value. Kind of surprised they weren't sold for 15k if the goal was to raise money for the DP fiasco.

Long term, awesomeness (which is why WH20 is still in my collection after all these years).

Short term, rarity (but I can TBL at a friends place).

I assume that since you "care" so much that you'll be purchasing this game and giving it to one of the EAs?

Getting flack because there are so many people out there who feel like they got burned (rightly so). Now, they’re busy hating on the people who got machines because they’re not us. They just don’t realize that we didn’t burn them, it was DP and the companies involved.

Hey look @wolfemaan is back again price pumping found garbage

I get 10%

I get 15%

If the OP gets $25k and wants to create good karma I suggest he randomly draw a name from the EA list and giving them back their $8500. This makes one EA whole to cover his game and he can keep the $4k profit in good conscience.

If I had profit I felt guilty about I'd probably give it to poor people instead of someone who can afford to risk $8,500 buying a toy.

This is exactly why pinside made that ignore option.

C'mon man ... if not for me, do it for my little buddy then.

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