$1,200?

You should have accepted one of those offers yesterday, based on the apparent condition, which cosmetically is fairly poor. The game is unshopped, and everybody here knows that it will need a lot of attention. There are likely issues that you aren't even aware of, and we wouldn't expect you to be aware of them because you aren't a pinball guy.

Nobody here has any problem with you trying to get as much as you can but you should stop posting auction results and pinside values as that kind of thing doesn't matter very much to us. We buy and sell pinball machines around here, not estimated values and supposed results from deals we don't know anything about. Pictures and condition means a lot more to us than an auction result from Tennessee.

And yet, with all due respect, you've still got that beat game sitting at your parents' house.

With all due respect, I wonder why.

When you post a game for sale here and elect to make it a forum topic, you can't tell people not to comment on it. That's not how it works.

You seem very interest in educating us with your neverending torrent of auction results, so it's only fair that we - who have ACTUAL EXPERIENCE buying and selling games - return the favor. We are trying to be constructive by helping you out.

I don't see what the problem is. In reality, since you have not one but TWO offers for $1,200 cash for an unshopped game in poor condition, you are sitting pretty. You are in very good shape in this deal so even if you don't get offered another cent, you should be very happy.

Congrats!

I wouldn't assume that, at all. The batteries have clearly not been changed since Reagan was President.

Why do you keep singling me out when a half dozen people have told you the same thing I have? Why do you keep posting here when you obviously aren't interested in anybody's opinions?

Yes, the circuit boards look nice. Obviously the game has been cared for (it has a remote battery holder), which you didn't bother pointing out before. I personally wouldn't be interested in buying that game but others might. Good luck with your sale, may it happen soon. Very soon.

And you don't have to keep beating us over the head with auction results and stuff we don't care about, while omitting RELEVANT DETAILS like the fact that it's been serviced. You also come off as an a-hole at times. You keep telling us how "clearly knowledgable" we are, yet you continue to talk down to us and "educate us" at the same time. It's hard not to perceive your posts as condescending.

People are willing to accept a certain amount of this stuff from newbies, but at some point it gets old. That point was when you started announcing all the fabulous offers you had for your game, but keep trying to milk it for more despite the fact that MANY people here (not just me) have pointed out how roached that playfield is.

Perhaps we are not so different, you and I. You from New York?

And hey since we can't get enough of educating each other, I'll give you a final free tip. Selling a pinball machine can be a HUGE pain in the ass. You think I'm tough? Wait till dudes start showing up at your house to "buy" your game. You might find that a $1200 "offer" on the phone turns into a $700 offer once the guy shows up and starts nickel and diming you on everything. You might start wishing you'd accepted that $1,000 offer from a guy who is actually gonna follow through and not just jerk you off.

Shocker. I'd expect a deal with this seller to go super smooth.

LMAO!

This would explain why I'm reminded of a used car salesman.

Even EMs?! Come on those tend to bargains.

False. I just bought one yesterday.

What I pay for every nice EM - $400-$1500.

Stop griping and start flipping. Everybody thinks pinball is "overpriced" when all they want are A-list games.

All I said is that I'd never pay your asking price for your game and that I think you are asking way too much, and that your used car salesman act is getting old. Based upon the "evidence" - the fact that you haven't had any luck in selling your game, and that the posts from people who you have annoyed are piling up - I'd say my valuation has been proven accurate.

Actually it's my thread now, and you are driving MY numbers up. Thanks!

Look, we are just trying to help. We don't go to the used car lot and tell you how to run your business, now do we?

All credit given, that is an awesome Batman pic!

Yeah I'm thinking when he sold those 12 Lambos he was talking about earlier, he got more money because there were holes in the upholstry, one headlight was out, and the tires were flat.

All original!

I thought I felt a strange but pleasant tingling!

It was all part of his winning honest and straightforward approach.

The funny thing is when we were honest and straightforward in our responses he took umbrage and started talking about motorcycles, which I honestly and straightforwardly don't understand.

This dramatically alters the landscape once more!!!

Lmao

Seems like an honest and straightforward buyer, hope they get matched up.

LOL, well that didn't go well!

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I sent him a message asking about buying the game - it actually is a potentially perfect machine for a charity project in NYC I'm working on. A serious, sincere message, offering to do business, which is what we do around here.

He responds with the usual homoerotic pegging nonsense and possible torrent of other insults I didn't bother to read.

Why is this guy so obsessed with strap ons, pegging, and "rectal cavities?" (that's rhetorical. We all know why.)

For a used car salesman, the dude clearly has a huge problem separating business and personal. I'd NEVER cut off anybody here from a possible deal, and never have. It's business! You called me an asshole in a JJP thread? Great, who cares, let's deal. Can you imagine taking this stuff THAT personally?! Dude has the social skills - and obsession with buttholes - of a 7-year old.

How does this guy make a living selling used cars and motorcycles when he can't deal with a little back and forth? I'm seriously wondering if he's a used car salesman at all! Is it just more lies like his supposed numerous offers on his roached game?

I'd seriously suggest folks be wary of dealing with this guy. To say he has a screw loose would be an understatement.

Would you guys buy a used car from this fella?

I know I sure wouldn't.

I don’t know gang. Is it me?

Was I being THAT much of a prick in the message I sent him? Was his response justified?

Seems like we could have made a deal and I could have taken that piece of shit off his hands. Guess not. He wants to talk about bloody rectums, not negotiate on a pinball machine apparently.

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Come on dude. I don't see why that "left a bad taste in your mouth," we've all lost out on deals before. You can't take it personally, especially when I did ZERO wrong. I didn't try to screw anybody out of a deal, a game was for sale and I bought it.

I did enjoy it for myself! I enjoyed the fuck out of it for a month, it's a great game and now I'm ready to kick ass on it at a tournament. Then I made a trade and now ANOTHER pinsider is enjoying the fuck out of it, trust me. I even delivered it three hours to make the deal!

That dude talks about TWO things here - bloody rectal cavities and all of the cars he's sold. You gotta forgive me I just assumed he's a used car salesman.

Or a proctologist I guess?

Ha! Cause Jersey is known as the home of tact!

$1,000 delivered is MORE than fair for that roached game. That's basically $900 plus $100 to cover gas and tolls. Dude has been lecturing us for a day about "the art of the deal" and negotiation, and he doesn't even come up with a counter-offer beyond "bloody rectum?" From the messages he's posted, we already know he's open to delivering a game 3 hours (which is exactly what it would be, not 4).

I guess I should have been nicer? I don't know, based upon his body of work I thought the guy would appreciate my honest and straightforward message. Guess not. Guy can dish it out by the rectum full but can't take it, apparently.

We are gonna buy this sick girl a game to make her recovery at home from major surgery and upcoming chemo a little more bearable. It could have been his game, looks like it'll be someone else's.

PM me offers please, if anybody has a suitable machine. No EMs thinking 1978-1990s stuff (Premier DMD would be perfect), budget not to exceed $1,500. Cosmetics (obviously) not important, but needs to genuinely be 100 percent working, shopped is a plus.

This guy couldn't be reading this situation more poorly. I am 100 percent sincere. We want to buy this game.

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I am DEADLY serious about this, I swear. This is still a FS thread isn't it?

And he's already made it clear he's willing to deliver! I wouldn't have considered asking otherwise. I made him a fair offer and he doesn't even want to negotiate.

I guess the guy is more interested in making friends than selling his game? Who cares what I said? It ain't nearly as bad as the shit he's been PMing me, endlessly, for the past hour! I called him a used car salesman, he keeps PMing me telling me to die and do it with a bloody anus. Yikes!!!! And I'm STILL willing to make a deal.

Money talks, bullshit walks. I got money, what does he have?