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Looks like a plan to me.....

That paticular game is now owned by a Pinside member from Los Angelos California, he is the guy who sent me the switch matrix and solenoid charts, plus, before he bought this Rat Race, I almost bought this particular Rat Race also, Mike Pacak had listed it on Ebay and it did'nt sell, I had called him after the end of the listing to negotiate a deal but afterwards (a few days later) I backed out for personal reasons.

Exactly....... here's a video I made a few years ago of another Rat Race I use to own.

Yes those are my kids, well, they use to be kids, now a days they are both gone living by there own (they are now 19 and 20 years old).
You play just like a regular pinball machine except when taking turns playing you don't have to swap places.
each joystick controls the tilt and tip aspect of the playfield so you don't play as a team, but you're bringing a very interresting aspect that I never thought of, each player could control a different PF move, player 1 could control the tilt motor and player 2 could control the tip motor and play as a team, I think it would be a real blast if I could do this.
You're giving me second thougts on selling this game......
I'll have to look into this.

What a great idea!
I'm doing it......but the switch will be loose behind the coin door so there is no drilling or damage to the game, and so that the mod can be removable at any time.

I just finished the "cooperative dual play" mod today, took a few hours to do but it was well worth it, it works great and you can swap game play mod any time with no damage to the game, "player 2" button is deactivated when the game is on "Cooperative Dual Play".
I decided that this mod was going to stay, so I made it non reversable.
Next mod I was thinking of was a reverse mod, a little like TSPP, some what a bigger challenge for the more experimented Rat Race players.

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I had a small issue with the game but it's now solved.
Price lowered to 6000$ USD

I forgot to mention that I'll include the Rat Race white wood prototype playfield assembly with the game.
It's a fun game but after 15 years in the hobby, I'm moving on to something else.

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If you pick up I'll even include the couch....... LOL
Seriously, NY state is'nt too far away from Quebec city, I WILL seriously include the couch if you the buy the game.

I will also include this framing of 2 Rat Race flyers with the game, and you don't have to take the couch.

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Bump!

And a bump!

evening bump.

In 6 years total owning a Rat Race including my first one, I've never played as much with it because it's the only game I have left, I sincerely did'nt think I could get much better at it but now I beat my all time score (3 000 000) plus I beat my new score of 3.5 million at 4.5 million and now the high score is 5.3 million.
I'm starting to now better undersatand the probable reason why Williams never produced this game, it gets played once or twice in an arcade and people walk away from it (I know, I've brought the game at 2 pinball shows) because it's so hard that the game seems impossible to master but after many many many games you CAN master it and the rules with the timer make it a blast to play.

I think I can compare Rat Race pretty well with TSPP in this way: I bought 2 TSPP from operators over the years, one from Columbus Ohio and the other from Ottawa, Ontario and both told me that the game does'nt earn well on location, people play a game and just walk away, it's too hard to understand and to master but after owning it quite a while, what a blast the game is once you undersatand the rules and you can master it (to a certain extent) after many many many games.
RR and TSPP are hard to master games and hard to quite unserstand what the rules are, of course TSPP rules are much deeper than RR.
There has'nt been any interrest in RR yet, not one private message, if it sells good, but if it does'nt sell that's OK too, I think I'll continue to appreciate it over the next years if it stays.
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Oui c'est vraie, après 6 ans j'ai encore des surprises.....
Plus, add that this particular Rat Race has slower tilt/tip motors than other Rat Race games, including the one in the video I posted, which makes game play much harder than the one you see in the video.
for an unexplaned reason this game's tilt/tip mechanism is slower, my theory is that this is the first complete game Williams made (only known painted cabinet) and the designe team must of decided that it was too frustrating (and game play extremely difficult) for the player, so they designed the other games made afterwards to have faster tilt/tip motors.

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Bump!

Thanks for chiming in PinballSTAR, having an opinion from another Rat Race owner other than the sellers opinion can surely help people realize what a great game this is.
I'd keep it also but I'm leaving the hobby, I don't know any guy that's alcoholic and says "I can stop drinking but I'll only drink one beer a day.....", same here, I want to leave the hobby so everything has to go, or else I'll surely be back in sooner or later.
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Bump.