Great pinsider here. Super rare game. GLWS but you won't need it.

Great Pinsider and great pin!

gorgeous game. GLWS!

Bill is awesome. This will be an easy transaction for anyone interested. Great game too. Glws

What were these NIB?

$9500

So what - it's considered the best game ever made by a handful of pinsiders. Virtually priceless.

No, but a lot of people really like the game and it is extremely difficult to find an Le version of it.

I've seen more LEs for sale in the last couple months than I've seen most any other game.

Cash out

He’s joking by the way lol

Used sell within hours for $9500. A NIB just sold for $11k in a day or two. The OPs price is not far off.

Wow the owner hype is strong with this title. Sell now while it is hot.

Once the next version comes... ouch for anyone holding.

I doubt they’ll make it again. Jack said that as well.

oh look it's whytalk doing what he does best - spread BS without any facts. Nice.

Actually...I was not joking. They are for sale fairly constantly. Cash-out... Yes. Buyers... Yes. If people were not lining up to buy then we'd have less for sale. No reason to sell other than make some money.

I think that I've seen more JJPOTCLE than TAF in recent months. It is a fun game... And I did buy a used one within 30 min of posting.

That is likely the one that I just picked up. Calling it routed is bit of an over statement tho. It was at the owners location for a bit and it looked cleaner than ones that I've seen posted on here as HUO

Only 14 for sale ever since the game came out, only 8 in the last 3 months. (Excluding new in box from distributors) Nowhere near more than “most any other game” in the past 3 months. :p That’s why I thought you were joking.

Edit: looks like that number includes an SE or two

The power of big data!

Well damn! I guess I'll just enjoy the hell out of playing my LE instead.

Poor me!

I think it's more, sadly, about people cashing in, or out, on the game based on it's alleged end run. Which I'm assuming is accurate, which is why I bought an LE NIB before people decided to sell to break even/make a profit.

I don't understand this entire market frankly. People seem fickle, and they offload pins like they're Goodwill clothing. This shit weighs a ton, which is reason enough for me to scrutinize every single purchase I'm engaging in. Though....I've only started home ownership recently.

For the record I'm not hyping anything rather supporting a friend. After tax and freight this is about where I was on these. Bought 4 and they seem to be doing well on the road.

I am not clear exactly why there is so much price complaining about what is clearly a for TRADE post. Talk to Bill and make a deal, he is a great seller and all around good guy

14 for sale where... here on Pinside?

Who is price complaining?? I’m not - I was only curious what they were new.

Market is the market. And if people want to cash out (or whatever you want to call it), so be it, that’s how collecting works.

Be the ones that own it, oddly enough.

Edit: make no mistake, I want one... but I cant see paying more than the original price. Hell, even the original seems a bit too high.

Jack is a salesman and came up with the plan to market like this. They needed to let wonka down the line because of how he screwed up that announcement. They were not selling well at the time, so he decided to create more demand with immediately cutting the run short and watch the price go up on the secondary as a measure of future sales in the bank, and will then make the next run when the timing is right. I have spoken with 2 distributors. 1 was explicitly clear that it WILL get redone (they also told me about reruns of previous games before anyone else and they were right every time). The other said he would love to see it (there is obvious demand and he would have orders if available right now), but he has no info to share at this time.

I tend to follow and believe the most obvious, which there is no reason it wont get made again (likely in a better trim package). I am yet to hear even one person come up with a logical reason why it wont be redone. JJP likes to make money, then need to have runs to keep the line running between games/ development times, the title has demand for at least 100 more right now, the game is very fun and a great theme.

some facts from delt and in this case one of the biggest hype flippers out there... that is funny. Your history speaks for itself. It is a road of hype and flip, hype and flip. You seem more obsessed with the flip than playing the game. That is fine, but just own it as a primary part of your MO.

It is pretty obvious when you see the same handful of owners in each and every JJP POTC fs/ft hype thread what the motivations are IMHO.

Good luck with you future sale
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Dont let this discussion take away from the fact that the game is GREAT, and should be selling for these prices as demand is obviously high for it right now and a bunch of people in this hobby run off fear of missing out and have the cash to spend.

just pointing out the same hypers in everyone of these

You are correct, there are only 6 of those out in the world and no features were stripped out of it before being made

@whysnow, I respectfully disagree with your "hype and sell" argument...at least on this title. As a satisfied owner, I will admit to considering putting mine on the block just because of the market trend. Think about it. At what it is selling for right now, you could pretty much trade or use the cash to get any game you want. The only thing holding me back is that I can't think of a game that could take the place of my JJPOTC.

whytalk - are you trying to say the market hype around this game is based on me? Well thanks!!!

Edit.... I will try to ignore whytalk in Bills f/s thread! Carry on

yeah, it is only natural that we all have to consider selling when someone tosses a crazy number. I rarely sell any game, but recently had a few people offer what I considered silly money to buy, so it makes you consider it. Esp when you think of the other games you could try out and still have some money back in the bank or for another game

The matter here is that a handful of the same people are hyping the hell out of POTC in every single thread.

Funny part is that this is the 3rd one this past week so other are in the same position as you. I figure it is only a matter of time before we see some of them sell also.

Not sure I see Hype and sell. I see this as a trade thread where an owner is trying to see if there are any one wants to put up an interesting offer. Nothing wrong with that! . At this point, this is an "in demand" game that maybe someone with some trade equity in a nice piece of interest may offer an option. The sell system here requires a price to be put in and 1K give or so over original (plus shipping) not that far off. While I feel different then most on the value difference tween LE/SE, It is obvious from the responses here that the LE is the most preferred of the three available options. JJPPOTC has the potential to be one of the few newer titles to appreciate over original cost based on demand. Only a few others such as Tron LE have demonstrated that ability over say the last 10 years. Pretty obvious the future price will be impacted by JJP future actions on this game. A potential trader has to evaluate that for them selves and decide to make an offer or not. No matter what a potential trader/buyer does, this is a great game that has upside even further with future code updates. Not really a lose opportunity IMHO.

I say good luck to the owner. I hope some thing interesting comes your way.

This is a fickle bunch in this hobby. I think that its harder for people to hold on to games that cost more, like north of 10k. People naturally want to protect their cash and are in fear that something will change and their game will instantly lose a couple grand in value. If they are selling a game that they genuinely don't care for, I get it. However, if its prompted by fear or taking a few hundred profit (lets face it, that all we are really looking at here after shipping, taxes, mods) than that's sad. The OP looks like its not his cup of tea, based on the low plays, so his sale may make sense.

GLWS. Makes sense to sell if your not into it...and selling at a good time to boot!

Personally, mine isn't going anywhere. The game is so stinking fun. I don't see it leaving for a long time, if ever, and I'll be fine losing some money on it down the road if prices drop.

Jack does a great job of propping up the resale value of JJP titles.

Agree with this totally. I’ve never bought a new JJP, but the guy is a genius IMO.

I can’t imagine Jack thinking they will sell more then a handful of WOZYBR at 11.5k (with so many WOZ out there) but it certainly doesn’t hurt in helping keeping resale values higher on WOZs.

I haven’t played POTCLE or any version, but have no doubt it’s a great game. Stopping production (temporarily IMO) will help keep the value up on existing games and allow them to focus on Wonka. If POTC is as good as people say and still in demand, you’re kidding yourself if you think these won’t be rerun.

I have no issues with people asking 11k for a game that’s demand outweighs supply, but agree with Whysnow that it’s the same people pumping the game, some with used car salesman like tactics.

Well said

GLWS...A great time to move the game, imho...Hope something fun pops up trade wise for you....

I don't know both of you guys and you both are probably great guys! with that being said I laughed my Ass off at the " Why Talk "

No Offense on my end!

I get what you're saying but Whysnow is the king of hyping his own games and then pointing fingers at others for doing the same. Even if he's not selling one of his machines, he's jumping in on other For Sale threads and doing what I call, price protecting. The hypocrisy is irritating and frustrating for many of us.

If Whysnow is taking the time out of his busy day to thump his chest repeatedly about how PoTC is about to be remade... it is more likely than not going to be remade any time soon and will hit $15k by Christmas.

He is the Pinside embodiment of the Dunning-Kruger effect. The less he knows the more certain he is of things. And despite being wrong most of the time (even a busted-ass clock is right twice a day, after all) he seems to lack any sort of awareness of how wrong he is, and how often, and what factors might be leading to his wrongness.

Could pirates be remade?

Sure, if prices rise, and demand is maintained, I could see a relatively small run in the future at an appreciably higher price.

If JJP is kept busy selling more profitable games (slightly less content, similar prices to today) why would they go back to pirates? It is a great game, it is not an easy or inexpensive game to make though.

Good luck with the sale or trade!

And here comes another to prove my point...

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/am-i-crazy

Mine won't be for sale anytime soon. Going to check The Mod Couple instead

I find it great that these are going up for sale, keeps the prices up. And when these people want to buy at a later date they can justify the higher costs since they were a part of it.

Great seller. Game is priced at market. It's difficult to get a LE.

Yes

What did you do with all your MG and TBL flip cash Kim?

Price protecting, lol. That is a new one. You finally realize you look silly claiming it is flipping when I don’t sell so you just made up a new word to explain and justify you attacks. That is pretty funny, I gotta give it to you.

should take it to PM not on someone's FS thread.

Rai - you should buy this or @Coz's and dump that silly ass Dialed In of yours!

love my DI, PotC is a super pin no doubt but my collection is maximum allowed by the wife.
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