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For sale: Johnny Mnemonic (Williams, 1995)

By Bud

7 years ago


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#1 7 years ago

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For sale: Johnny Mnemonic (Williams, 1995)

Added: 2015-12-29 19:12:04 UTC • Ended: January 7th, 2016
Condition: Fully restored (full original status)

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$ 3,750

Item description

Probley one of the best JMs out there, it is super clean, only known defect is a the keypad placard that attaches to the right ramp is broken off, and some minor wrinkling of the decals near the legs. I still have all the pieces if somebody desired to fix it. I prefer to buy a new ramp and install the old placard on the new ramp. The play field doesn't show any wear, I cannot find any ware on the PF. Cab and back box are not dinged up or chipped. The pin is loaded tastefully with LEDs, the topper changes colors and is remote controlled, it can easily be removed, it is not installed via hacks. Pin has mirror blades, new balls, and plays super fast. All boards and wiring are great with no known damage or hacks. I have an extra set of ramp decals and the original DMD/speaker cover to go with the pin. I also have 4 new flipper/glove buttons to better match the pin that are on the way, they are mirror coated, one set blue, the other red. I'm sure I'm forgetting some descriptions, feel free to ask and I'll get you an answer. I believe you'd be hard pressed to find a pin this clean for this price.


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#2 7 years ago

#3 7 years ago

That price is obscene. I just bought and sold one without wrinkled decals and a broken plastic, no fade, 100% working for $2100

#5 7 years ago
Quoted from Collin:

That price is obscene. I just bought and sold one without wrinkled decals and a broken plastic, no fade, 100% working for $2100

Sounds like you were very eager to dump it, at that price. A run-of-the-mill faded/player's JM should command $2100. Unfaded JMs in pristine shape are rare and rightfully command a reasonable premium. This one, on the other hand, though blinged out, is far from pristine, and nowhere near a collector's game. In my mind, a true collector's JM with a color DMD, mirror bladed out, *might* approach these kinds of dollars. Of course, you pretty much have to sell at that price to either a newb with cash to burn or a full fledged collector who only buys collector's games.

#6 7 years ago

"Probably"

#7 7 years ago

You think you could have looked to see if the boards had any hacks whilst restoring it

#8 7 years ago

For those of us who remember:

SHAZAMMMMMMMMM !!!

#9 7 years ago

What are you talking about? Do you see hacks?

#10 7 years ago
Quoted from cheshirefilms:

Sounds like you were very eager to dump it, at that price. Unfaded JMs in pristine shape are rare and rightfully command a reasonable premium. This one, on the other hand, though blinged out, is far from pristine, and nowhere near a collector's game. In my mind, a true collector's JM with a color DMD *might* approach these kinds of dollars.

Not at all. I paid a fair price, had my fun, and sold it for the same.

#11 7 years ago

He means that you put fully restored for the game. But if it Was fully restored the boards should have been removed and inspected im assuming.
Plus fully restored wouldnt have a cracked plastic or cab wrinkles

#12 7 years ago
Quoted from Bud:

What are you talking about? Do you see hacks?

No, but we wouldn't see them on the front, just the back. Which is why it's strange the description says "no known hacks."

#13 7 years ago
Quoted from Collin:

Not at all. I paid a fair price, had my fun, and sold it for the same.

Game was probably worth more than you got, but never any harm in having fun and moving a game for what you paid. That's what I did with my T2.

#14 7 years ago

I see the price police and grammar Gestapo are in full force already, if you can read what I wrote then the goal was met, and now you're just getting nit picky. I'll clarify a few things if I can:

I never stated this is a fresh or recent restoration. That game has had a restoration in the past, and has not had a lot of play. While posting the add there is not an option to state how old or recent, full or partial a restoration is. A lot of time and money was spend redoing this pin, it has been restored, that's why the add says restored, that's also why I described its condition. See the following link for info and price tag of $6500.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/latest-project-cjm

If the broken plastic is a deal breaker, I'd be happy to knock off the price of a ramp for somebody interested in buying my pin. No sense in beating me up over it.

The wrinkling near the legs is very minor and can be fixed, it not the decal itself, there is a clear protective film over the decals and that's what's wrinkling.

I stated no known hacks because it's a common question asked. I didn't restore the pin, so I said no known hacks, really not that strange, if I would have pulled the boards and checked for myself, I would have stated no hacks.

Lastly, if you don't like the price, or description then drive on, this is not the typical Johnny pin and not going to be bought for the typical price. Be polite and keep this community enjoyable. I think this is why you see more adds that aren't connected to a discussion, people get tired of the bashing and negativity. A lot of people say and do things I don't agree with, but I don't go blasting and bashing them, that's not what Pinside is about either.

Feel free to send me a PM for any questions.

#15 7 years ago

Lol.....I laughed until I cried......Love these threads!

#16 7 years ago
Quoted from Bud:

I stated no known hacks because it's a common question asked. I didn't restore the pin, so I said no known hacks, really not that strange, if I would have pulled the boards and checked for myself, I would have stated no hacks.

Understood. Just offering the advices you should probably take 5 minutes and pull the boards so you can see if there are any hacks, since it's such a common question.

#17 7 years ago

I think we should all listen to this guy....why you gotta be so mean pinside....geesshh.............Joey

#18 7 years ago

Nice pin! Some people have nothing better to do than offer up pricing "opinions" on any for sale thread. There are other routes to sell a pin that are a lot more positive in my experience. This is not your average JM and the OP has every right asking whatever the hell he wants for it. Price police offer up no positive contributions once again.

#19 7 years ago

Nice JM. Looks familiar

#20 7 years ago

Double cheese - Anchovies?

#21 7 years ago

I saw the thread was "on fire" so stumbled into the read. ZERO interest in ever owning a JM, but get a feeling this will end up being a tangential thread or one of "pin price police" VS others.

I will only comment making this note:

I AM NOT A BIG FAN OF ME OR ANYONE MAKING THE STATEMENT: "Probley (probably) the best one out there". mmmmmmmmmmmmmm that statement just begs folks to hammer at ya!

Maybe just go with super nice, very clean, awesome condition, yada etc yada etc. You get my drift.

just my 2 cents

GLWTS

#22 7 years ago

I recently picked up the JM Whitewood with this same cabinet art & full chrome package. It sure does look amazing around the cabinet. I have it sitting right next to my all stock JM

#23 7 years ago

Nice looking game!! Looks like the cab decals were replaced. I like those better than the originals.

#24 7 years ago

Who ARE all these people?

#25 7 years ago

My mother taught me if I had nothing nice to say to say nothing.....

#26 7 years ago

I assume this is $3750 OBRO? If it is then Collin who sold his stock one for 2100 is in the same neighborhood. This game has over a 1200 bucks worth of chrome and mods on it. Also this has the alternate cab decals, there is no Reeves's face is not on the cab.

#27 7 years ago

I think it is possible, for someone to pay close to his asking price on this machine.

#28 7 years ago

Everyone here is wrong. Thats the 'I dont want to sell it price.'

#29 7 years ago

It looks really nice to me.

#30 7 years ago
Quoted from kvan99:

I assume this is $3750 OBRO? If it is then Collin who sold his stock one for 2100 is in the same neighborhood. This game has over a 1200 bucks worth of chrome and mods on it. Also this has the alternate cab decals, there is no Reeves's face is not on the cab.

Different =/= better. It's got a couple hundred bucks worth of chrome, if that's your preference, but serious collectors want a nice original over aftermarket decals. The guy who bought mine could easily have the side rails, lockdown bar, and coin door chromed and still be WELL under $3k, and it would be far nicer than this.

This is like a 1998 Honda Civic DX with a chrome exhaust and chrome accents on the trim, tribal decals on the side, and an AEM intake, but with nothing that makes it functionally better than average. And he's asking Mustang money for it. Oh, and the Smurf Puke LEDs aren't a plus.

#31 7 years ago

The fact that this post has a dozen thumbs up and no thumbs down says EVERYTHING.

#32 7 years ago

Much like The Shadow, I'd personally pay more not to have that douchebag's face on it.

#33 7 years ago

Fix the ramp, then relist it.

#34 7 years ago
Quoted from hank527:

Fix the ramp, then relist it

... For $2250 OBO
Agreed!

#35 7 years ago

Well look at it this way...a blinged out Tron can sell for 10K. JM > Tron. This is a smoking deal! <FLAME SUIT ON>

#36 7 years ago
Quoted from Bud:

this is not the typical Johnny pin and not going to be bought for the typical price. Be polite and keep this community enjoyable.

I agree, I was about to shazam you but when I saw the game I knew someone had spent a lot of money blinging it out....as far as Collin's comment about the blue leds (which look awesome by the way) he just made your case for you.

#37 7 years ago
Quoted from Collin:

That price is obscene. I just bought and sold one without wrinkled decals and a broken plastic, no fade, 100% working for $2100

Funny you state how perfect your JM was Colin, because the add you posted for your JM says otherwise, see below:

"Right ramp is cracked slightly at the top; this doesn't affect gameplay, and it will come with a new ramp and decals.
Small chip (about 1mm) in one of the mode inserts.
Right orbit switch was occasionally not registering; I hope to have this cleared up soon, though."

Cracked ramp, insert chips and switch errors don't constitute the picture your trying to paint onto my pin and why bash my smurf puke LEDs? I like smurf puke, it's happy!

#38 7 years ago

Bump it for the sweet JM'simage_(resized).jpg

#39 7 years ago
Quoted from Bud:

Funny you state how perfect your JM was Colin, because the add you posted for your JM says otherwise, see below:
"Right ramp is cracked slightly at the top; this doesn't affect gameplay, and it will come with a new ramp and decals.
Small chip (about 1mm) in one of the mode inserts.
Right orbit switch was occasionally not registering; I hope to have this cleared up soon, though."
Cracked ramp, insert chips and switch errors don't constitute the picture your trying to paint onto my pin and why bash my smurf puke LEDs? I like smurf puke, it's happy!

Did I say perfect? I looked at the quote you pulled, and I don't see the word "perfect" in there anywhere. I said that with the original cabinet, which again is what serious collectors look for, is better than your overpriced game. Oh, and it was 56% of what you're asking. And the board were clean enough that you could eat off the back sides of them. And the buyer got a new ramp AND full set of ramp decals, and the game was fully working when he bought it. The buyer is happy, and the game has been error-free in the months since I sold it. Oh, and I sold it for 56% of your asking price. Again, that was A NICER GAME THAT I SOLD FOR LITERALLY 56% OF YOUR ASKING PRICE. Quit trying to dig for dirt on a game that sold for 56% of your asking price; you ain't gonna find it.

tl;dr: The game I sold was a FAR better deal than this, because I don't seek to rip people off.

#41 7 years ago
Quoted from Collin:

Did I say perfect? I looked at the quote you pulled, and I don't see the word "perfect" in there anywhere. I said that with the original cabinet, which again is what serious collectors look for, is better than your overpriced game. Oh, and it was 56% of what you're asking. And the board were clean enough that you could eat off the back sides of them. And the buyer got a new ramp AND full set of ramp decals, and the game was fully working when he bought it. The buyer is happy, and the game has been error-free in the months since I sold it. Oh, and I sold it for 56% of your asking price. Again, that was A NICER GAME THAT I SOLD FOR LITERALLY 56% OF YOUR ASKING PRICE. Quit trying to dig for dirt on a game that sold for 56% of your asking price; you ain't gonna find it.
tl;dr: The game I sold was a FAR better deal than this, because I don't seek to rip people off.

Does the person want to sell it? I love JM and am a buyer for a mint one under 2600

#42 7 years ago
Quoted from beelzeboob:

Much like The Shadow, I'd personally pay more not to have that douchebag's face on it.

Tell that to my girlfriend......

#43 7 years ago

Another price buster thread? <yawn>

#44 7 years ago
Quoted from hank527:

Does the person want to sell it? I love JM and am a buyer for a mint one under 2600

I don't think so. He seems to be playing the daylights out of it. If you're patient, though, you should be able to find a very nice one in that range. I found my old one on here, and I think the seller was asking 2500ish. Good luck!

#45 7 years ago
Quoted from PoMC:

Another price buster thread? <yawn>

yeah but this is one of those times where a game is so overpriced it does not even need the price policing. When a game is 150% + over typical market there is no need to even give it the bumps. Seller is so unlikely to get this price on pinside that they either let it sit forever or eventually wake up and change the price.

My best advice to seller would be to fix some of the issues if you are trying to market this as a high end game and then also put it on ebay where you may find a buyer that is willingto pay for chrome and a topper.

#46 7 years ago

Nobody likes to see a pin sell for more than average, I get it, and everybody likes a deal. It makes no difference thumbs-up or down. This is not a democratic sale by the masses, it's not community property and not going to be priced according to public desire. I don't know why I'm even explaining myself, look at the mods. Over $1600 in chrome alone not including the chrome arch or any shipping or labor. How much are cab decals (cheap ones are $250-$300) and how much work is involved in removing the old ones and putting new ones on? How much is it to LED a pin out, $100-$300? There is conservatively well over 2k in mods on this pin, if my asking price minus a ramp is 3500 ($250 credit for a ramp and labor) that's only about a $1000 more than the average good condition JM, that's at least 50% (more like 60-70% if everything put in was added up) loss on mods and upgrades not including labor and shipping. How am I trying to rip people off? How does this make me a bad guy? If a fella was inclined he could swap all the mods from this JM and upgrade another pin, then sell this pin again and still get a good price, then would have had a a ton of mods for more than half off. Is a $1k over top average still a bad price? It's really easy to pick apart somebody's used item they are selling, that's where the haggling comes in between the buyer and seller. You should stop kicking the tires if you are not interested in buying.

#47 7 years ago
Quoted from Bud:

You should stop kicking the tires if you are not interested in buying.

just wanted to say that you always have the option of placing an ad in the market without also adding the forum discussion.

I dont think anyone is claiming you are a bad guy. Many think you are asking top dollar for a game with a cracked ramp and some other issues. Your game has a tone of high dollar bling. Reality is that if you want to get back the dollars of your bling then you likely have a very small population that is looking for this game. That said, Pinside is probably low on your likely list of places to find a buyer. You will have better chances of selling on ebay.

GLWS

#48 7 years ago

Isnt there a way to avoid having a thread associated with a marketplace ad?? If so, i would choose that option..someone will buy this...

#49 7 years ago

I think people are being too hard on OP. This is a super expensive JM, and it has way too much money put into mods for 99% of buyers, but there's a $4000 Road Show with 4 crappy pictures we could be crapping all over instead.

#50 7 years ago

I was just about to say the same thing. It just seems like creating a thread for a marketplace ad has a 75% chance of going downhill one way or another. I've sold more than a couple of games here without creating any threads. If the game is on a wishlist, then that person used to get an alert to the sale. That way you get attention from people who are actually interested in a pin without the mob scene.

Don't complain about the "price police" if you decide to put up a billboard on the side of the highway.

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