Oh boy...

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It's not rare, and not worth 6k.

Someone made a custom translite, put it in a routed pin and gave it to that guy. Worth a little less than a comparable original.

cabinet colors are fantastic.

Cabinet looks great. I dont see any major problems. Asking price is high but the sellar is open to offers. Make a reasonable offer and I am sure he will accept it.

I agree with the custom translite and it not being rare or worth extra because of it. But if that pin was routed, it would not have been for very long. And it would have been a super clean location.

Bottom of playfield, back box panel, cabinet and PF all look super clean and untouched.

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Blake

This game did not have factory drilled lockbar holes on the cabinet. I think Williams started that with the wpc95 games.

It looks really nice, don't get me wrong. I still think it is routed though . I'd love to see a pic of the lock down bar receiver in the cab. That's my favorite way to look for HUO.

Amen!

The receiver certainly can be a dead give away. Sadly most of mine are on the rougher side.

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Blake

The value in this game is gonna be based on the condition (which looks really nice, btw.)

Nobody will pay more because some guy no one has heard of once owned it.

Get out of here!
You don't know David Wilson!

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Blake

Just to be clear, Orange County Pinball Games sold used games that had been on route. And they went out of business shortly thereafter.

I used to go there quite often. They had a showroom with all the games set up and playable, but never did I see a pinball box and I went in their back room. I'm not sure, but I don't believe they were a new game distributer. They had nice condition machines, but a lot were fairly new anyway.

So saying HUO from them would be a stretch.

I'm going to add, they bought games from establishments in the area, and about that time there was an Indy500 in the basement of Cal State Fullerton where the pool tables and bowling lanes are. Not saying this is it, but that would explain the no fade cab.

I think you have been very upfront and are simply learning more about the machine and its past as you go. Nothing wrong with that. And none of it takes away from the condition of the machine which you are documenting and answering inquiries appropriately.

GLWTS or have a blast if you keep it!

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Blake

It just brought back memories of playing that one at Cal State.

And OC games when I went in there they were not cheap. I almost bought a machine from them once. I believe they helped clean out most of the pinball machines that used to be at Camelot mini golf which was across the street. Some of the games they sold are resurfacing again after the batteries took a shit 15-20 years ago and sat in people's houses unused.

Where’s the history?

I dunno...the decal squares around the flipper buttons is a turn off for me, personally. For $5000 asking price, i would expect the Battery damaged speaker to be swapped out already. The game’s provenance with Mr Wilson aside, and based only on condition, you should take that standing offer and run fast.

Yep, routed. Buyer will probably want to buy an original translite, and replace that speaker. In my neck of the woods, that's a $4500 pin.

If my name was David Wilson and it was my 50th b-day I’d be all over this!

The fact that you say, "it's the Best Williams I've ever owned" tells me everything I need to know, LOL.

This thread made me realize that all of my pins are one of a kind too... they just went up in value!

Thanks Mr. Wilson!

Well I think it’s nice he’s been upfront and I understand that without knowing the history behind it one could think it’s rare and HUO. Game looks good and the seller is being completely reasonable even though his hopes were dashed. That’s a rare thing to see!
Good luck with your sale, you’ve still got a great looking machine for next to nothing so I wouldn’t be disappointed!

Nice looking game man and I would love to own it but if someone offered me $5000 for it I would personally deliver it within 100 miles. I would already be in their driveway unloading it.

Nice looking example of a really underrated game. GLWS

If you guys are going to thread shit at least try to hit the rim, these are airballs.

I was being serious.

Also, the thread was already shit when I got to "due to the rarity of this machine I don't know where to price it..."

It's a Bally, genius! FFS, 3500.00 tops, next.

I500 is better than a lot of the more popular 90's B/W pins.

Lower production has helped it remain one of the best games that many people have never played.

all I want to know is who the fuck is David Wilson? and what's up with those flipper decals?
co-worker = david wilson's mistress

Like the color in the cabinet decals. I wish mine was that red color. Pics speak for themselves. I500 is a great speed game. Lots of timed modes. Great sound/callouts. Tough to score on, so hence the buy in ball opportunity.
GLWTS.

Just to be clear, Orange County Pinball did not go out of business, the company is still around. They are in no way associated with Orange County Pinballs.

Btw, wonder where Rodney is these days? Last I knew he went into law enforcement.

And yah, I’m familiar with that particular Indy 500... Back in the day I delivered it to Wilson’s house

Wasnt this mystery solved over a year ago?
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/is-this-a-one-of-a-kind-i500#post-4077682

LOL, k guy...

I was referring to the company I thought was listed on the card. Which was on La Palma and then moved to Kraemer or Tustin I believe. I knew them more as OC Games. Is this a different pinball company that was also on La Palma? And if they are still in business, where are they now? A google search brings up nothing.

Last time I went there, probably late 90s, early 2000s the place was closed and empty.

Looks like that driver took a wrong turn Paul.

Seriously, there has been no sign of that place in almost 20 years and I am in that neighborhood and the guy says it's still in business. I'm really curious now.