Here we go again..

Again home use with lack bar hole in front even kept in the new art, why not at least fix the hole before putting the new art on. Not home use

Looks beat up

That's odd there's only the one hole not on both sides

Maybe he lives in a bar or arcade?

That's funny. Good one!

I had a chance to see this game in person yesterday. It's a beautiful example. Very, very clean and consistent with HUO. PF is original, and ramps show very little wear. The gold plating is exceptional. The boards are original and show no signs of overheating (including the GI plugs, well-known points that tend to age poorly). The extra hole on the front is something I've seen in a number of WPC-era games and not necessarily an indication of a routed game. Regardless, condition of this IJPA is excellent for a 30 year old game.

This game plays great, and the rad-cals look awesome. If I could talk tdunbar into a trade for one of my games, I'd be very happy.

Not arguing the quality of the game or the price, looks like a nice machine and the seller can ask whatever they want.

This hole is 100% not factory. This cabinet was drilled by a 3rd party for a lockdown bar for route. Whether or not it spent any time on route doesn’t really matter. It always comes down to care. I have seen a few HUO games that were in far worse condition than routed games.

The only thing that confuses me about this particular game is- why go through all the effort to make a game look this nice, and not go 100%?

Free bump for a nice machine.

Just FYI, I purchased a few WPC and WPC-95 games from Mountain Coin in Albuquerque in the mid/late 90s. A few of these had already been unboxed. At least one (Champion Pub) had a lock bar installed. While I agree with the statement that it’s not factory, that doesn’t necessarily imply it was routed. My distributor put lockdown bars on all games they unboxed and showed in the display room.

IJ is in the wrong era/year for factory installed lock bars. So, this machine was routed. But never fixing the hole before applying the new art is just goofy.

getting a percentage ?

hope he finds his whale !

No. Hoping to work a trade, actually. Price is fair IMHO.

We have literally been over this a million times.

Some 1995 and later games came with the lock bar brackets installed from the factory.

Games older than that did not. Not a single one.

This has always been true and will always be true.

Unless the original owner of this IJ didn’t trust his family, there’s zero chance this game was HUO. Nobody bought an IJ in 1993 for their home, unboxed it, and immediately installed a lock bar to protect the coin door from thieves.

HUO or not, condition is everything. HUO is one of the most misunderstood and abused terms in this hobby, and honestly doesn't mean much to me, personally. Condition is condition, period. I've seen this game in person and looked under the hood. Very nice game. Like I said, I'm trying to work a trade.

I recently got my IJ from Texas. Nicely restored and the hype on this game was all legit. It’s a beautiful and fun offering. So unique and you just don’t want to stop playing. It’s crack for pinheads. I get dopamine dumps just thinking about going downstairs to turn it on.

IMO IJ is a slow wide body dog poop. I don’t get the current hype. To each their own, but man, people gonna lose their pants if they are buying at these prices

It’s the best WPC ever made.

Meh, no wide body is good, but STTNG comes closer than any other. IJ is slow dog poop

Better yard sale all of them then since your opinion is all that matters

Nope, never said that. Just my opinion. That’s all. Pinball people are so sensitive. You must have one of these and you want to keep it expensive.

You must've played the Stern one.

If we talking restored.. Left flip coil should be a 11629 (same as right)

I do not have one IJPA.

The simple fact that someone paid for Rad Cal decals and still put the carriage bolt through the expensive art goes into question the quality of the whole machine. It’s not home use for sure so why lie? Why would you not cover the hole? Obviously the seller has been in the hobby long enough to know these things. I’m sure the machine is nice. But the quality of the work and the “home use” moniker with the extremely high price tag call the machine to be questioned. Either way good luck on the sale.

why would the quality of the whole machine be in question because someone paid for the Rad Cal decals and still put the carriage bolt through the expensive art? Mutually exclusive?

I was asking the person who posted above me… But now that you are here what the hell is a washed up Laundromat?

“Laundry mat” on Pinside always cracks me up!

Does the ad even say HUO in it?

Well - in a For Sale thread - yes people might be sensitive.

I generally don't bother commenting in sale threads but I figure adding some additional data points as things for other people to look at in the future (in other sale threads).

The boards in the backbox are not all original to the game itself. Assessments like "the boards are original" are all well and fine when someone has replaced the board with another that does not show signs of past problems.

"Boards are original" != "Boards are original to this game".

For this game:

• The CPU board came from a Twilight Zone.
• The Power Driver board came from another (different) Indiana Jones.
• The Fliptronic board is original to this game.
• The DCS board is original to this game.
• The Dot Matrix Controller board came from a later era WPC-S game.

Most owners of machines that are true HUO do not have access to other machines to replace boards. This is something that operators do (or did).

The above does NOT detract from the actual condition of this game. Condition is king. No doubt about that.

It did the first couple times around but it's finally been revised to remove the offending three capital letters.

Not without a fight though!

Here is one of my HUO IJPA’s. Undocumented, of course, but I can't see any of the tale tell signs that it has been anywhere but safely tucked away in grandma's sunlight free climate controlled basement since 1993
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There’s no lock bar hole.

That's HUO patina around the coin slots.

"If you disagree with me you must have ill intent"
You are what's wrong with modern society

Trading and buying are two different things. Both parties could have an overinflated sense of value in a trade.
We’d have to see what you think your games are worth to know if your opinion on the value of this game is fair.

It did but was obviously removed

It’s got a hole drilled in the front of the cabinet and you “can’t imagine” it was routed?

In the end it really doesn’t matter - as everyone and their grandma says here “condition is king” - but it does get annoying when you see obviously not HUO games claiming that distinction time and time again.

I just hope it wasn't in your home for a decade with the speaker grilles installed upside down.

I don't know why I get hung up on that, and it has no bearing on the condition, but it's the thing about this listing that keeps me up at night.

Hah! Didn’t even notice it although if I bought the game, I’m sure I would have at some point, and then would have been a bit passed.