This is a desirable game, and if it’s a prototype that would ad some value.

My personal recommendation, since you are a new user to Pinside, is to take a photo with a news paper in front of the machine. This community has been hard hit by scammers over the last year, if you can take a photo with the newspaper it would help show you have the game and you would get some offers rolling in.

I do not say the above to insult you, we are welcoming to new members here, but rather to help you. The scammer we have been fighting has used this title as bait before since it is high dollar and both common enough not to draw attention but rare enough to have collectors hunting for it.

I sent him a PM right after it was listed, no response yet. Could be legit, hard to tell.

LOL, you two both already have this game!

This is one game that’s NOT in my collection. I was looking for an IJ a year or so ago. I know it’s a popular and high priced game, but in all honesty, is this one priced right?

No, it’s high and also has fade and what not, but it is obo and claims to be a prototype. I’m not sure how much of a price bump being a prototype of this game brings. What are the differences?

The absence of the green super ball button is consistent with a prototype.

What’s the difference between a prototype and standard?

One for sure is the upper playfield is stainless steel with no plastics on it.

I think the prototypes also have the speaker panel jackpot lights factory installed, which was deemed too expensive and cut for production.

I'm not 100% sure of that, though. The metal POA rails are the most obvious giveaway.

Yes your right speaker panel 3 lower light had it drilled and board for it too plus jackpot Inserts are black and white

One tell tale sign it is not a prototype. In the prototype, Sean Connery's image near the right flipper does not say Dr Jones, it says DAD. Ask those looking for true prototypes, they know. This could be a sample game, not near as rare.

what about the "factory settings restored" message? just dead/missing batteries or board damage?

haha, he had me at "sample".

Ive seen alot of sideways photos, but an upside down ad photo? Niiiice!

This is true, but his game does have prototype features i.e. the stainless rails....my guess is there were several games that left the factory with some of the prototype features. For example my game has the pre drilled hole and the factory board for the bridge lighting (which is nice to have). Apparently these didn't make the final production game. My game doesn't say "Dad" or have the stainless rails. Does that make my game a prototype? Its anybody's guess....

Its hard to say if its priced high or not...from the pics u can't really tell condition.

No, your game is a Sample game. As we were tooling up the side plastic rail for the POA, and other features, we were using up parts on the Sample run. The Prototytpe run was 20 games only. That is all that ever existed of true prototype games in the 1990s.

Gotcha....didn't know there was a different between prototype and sample....thanks for the clarification

Has anyone actually heard back from the seller? I could go look at it for someone if need be.

The 20 prototype games generally went to the programmers, engineers and designers. The 250 samples were to prime the distibution network and help debug issues on the games. In the mid-nineties we were running 1/3 Bally and 2/3 Williams on the two production lines. Sample games were run behind locked doors in what we called the MEL - Manufacturing Excellence Lab. If there were no major design issues, the samples were run at a rate of 12 per day. At any given time, in the hayday we were building 312 games per day. Very crazy but fun times. I am fortunate to have a one of the 20 prototype games.

The “factory setting restored” image says to me that most likely the batteries are dead. Which also means that there’s a high probability of board damage from leaky alkaline. Would definitely ask for a pic of the boards first.

Yes heard back but seems not right at all

What do you mean? He's not a legit seller? Clearly his game is not a prototype

something is off with the dude. it's not on the level.

It’s not a prototype, it is a sample game.