How would you know if there's ghosting/PF issues or not if it's still in the box?

There is no way to know. Some of the LEs had ghosting and others didn't. It's a total gamble.

Opened the ad to ask the same question. You beat me to it.

Epic indeed

So maybe GBLE is a game this is worth more OOB rather than NIB, with a few hundred plays - since that's the only way to really verify the no ghosting?

Uh...I wasn't aware of any late LE runs that fell into the safe playfield period. If there's no ghosting, that's great, but man, I'd be scared.

I have an LE, and I absolutely love it, but I wouldn't buy one without being absolutely sure there are no playfield issues.

How about you open it and update the ad?

Why take that risk, leave the ad up and hopefully someone bites for you, worse case they have a bad PF to beat on until Stern sends a new one in 6 months

$10k ? Is this 8 months ago or a Time Warp?

Stern always makes it right. Myabe you can get one of these nifty repair kits for a GB LE owner that had a defective play-field that Stern refused to replace. This has to be worth the price of an LE. GLWTS! Should go quick.

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So you buy it to flip it at a hefty profit , but you don't want any comments that don't support your actions.Interesting perspective.
Hmmm...wonder why there are 13 downvotes already at the beginning of your thread....

If you really want to sell it. Price it lower. That simple. A LOT lower. And I own one. A great pin btw.

I'll say this, GBLE is 10x the pin that MG is in its pathetic state of shit, and 1/2 the price.

That said, the pinside dicks won't cut you a break for being ignorant.

On this site, there is NOBODY dumb enough to buy this pin. I say that at the same time the DUMMIES are buying MG for ignorant $$

In any event, they will slash you for trying to pick off a bit of a profit, yet the same DB's will cheer lead MG's going for $40k

Recent games are ghosting too it appears.

Heck Aerosmith has ghosted inserts on Stern's own promo video.

So why would your GB be OK? Because you want $10K?

Stern is not "making it right" when sending customers sandpaper & a bottle of clear.

Also... you won't get much sympathy for being forced to sell the game when your asking price is $10K & it's sorta weird to ask forum members to only make comments that fit your agenda

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Plus the fact the Curly and the Russians are F ing everything up

Don't trust anything

"You don't need a new PF"

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If you want it gone take a look at the market archive. It will show you the price these are listing at nib. Most recent ones are in the mid 8's. Nowhere near $10k.

Ok, I see you are open to offers. I am offering $8,000.

Also, what is the serial number.

While I don't agree on flipping there is alot of heat in this FS thread, yet someone listing a TRON LE HUO for $14k and doesn't get half the heat that's in here. Flipping any game whether its NIB or HUO equally hurts future pricing specially when all companies can view it and try to use it to set a new pricing benchmark.

Good luck with sale!

totally... I will never support flippers. I do not agree with their motivations of greed.

Words of wisdom, but not against prices or inherent values or lack thereof:

Potential buyers understand the industry.
Understand what you are buying.
Stop feigning ignorance, or being uneducated.
Don't cry "foul".
The warranty process has to change, if you want things to improve as "home consumer electronics device", if this remains the primary market for sales.
Otherwise, you accept the risk, not the manufacturer.
People cannot take anyone in this particular case to court and win either, as a buyer it was accepted the contract within the bill of sale, even if sold aftermarket, or by second hand private owners.
In fact, you have an even WORSE case, than if you bought it from the factory or distributor up front.
A manufacturer "owes" you NOTHING.

ALL NIB games sold by private owners are "as is", "no additional warranty implied", unless an agreement is reached beforehand.
Crack the seal on the box, and it is yours, unless it is a complete disaster in shipping, or a hot mess in the box.
Perhaps this game is still be "moderated" by the distributor, but I have no idea.
Distributors are not always equal in terms of "shielding" or "protection" to a manufacturer, but they do try their best.
This game could be considered "out of tolerance" for the two warranted items as well, but since it is still at the factory, that is not an argument Stern would likely pursue as it has not "shipped" and the clock starts ticking.

BTW, you cannot keep a game NIB indefinately to "avoid having the warranty to lapse" which has already been attempted. There is a reasonable statute of limitations as well in regards to time. It is a new method that owners feign responsibilities through price speculation methods.

If people believe that this is not happening anymore and people all understand, the misinformation is rampant beyond website barriers.

GLWS

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OK then I offer $8500.That's a Positive remark isn't it ?Ready cash...

Gee, I say something nice and ......
Free Bump....

I agree. Keep in mind Stern may make things right for the original purchaser, but we don't know how they will feel with a second buyer. That is a private sale, and that person is likely on their own. Unless you can get something in writing (good luck with that) from Stern saying they would cover the playfield, you have no guarantee of anything.

Great point.

Does anyone know if Stern will warranty the 2nd owner?

A lot of 1st owners are struggling to get "warranty" replacement playfields so I wouldn't hold your breathe if your owner 1, 2 or 3.

As a further point of consideration, think about the conditions of a game sale that was "held" at the factory and why the game remained there after it was built but not shipped to the original owner?

I am not going to imply reasons about the justification of why the game is for sale, but there are questions that should be asked regarding aspects of the game circumstances unrelated to condition by any potential buyer prior to agreement.

There are only several arguments this has occurred, and is a private matter.

Do not believe in the concept of "blind faith".
The original owner can not use a distributor (third party) to make promises for a manufacturer to do ANYTHING, as this has no value of any sort in this industry, unless said individual has serious muscle to influence.

There should be a new bill of sale invoice generated as well for a buyer, as the old bill of sale for the new owner is essentially worthless except for validation of the previous owner.

Just ask questions.

Stern ignores emails regarding that question

Plus I wouldn't count on Trent to get any satisfaction if the PF has problems. He never managed to help KPG and his GB had the worst PF issues we've all seen.

There is no decision to make. Your ad says "OBO", so technically you are required to accept the highest offer ...

Geez,let the guy sell his pinball?

Great point, anyone that buys this send the money to Trent and be the first owner. Let Trent forward the profits along to epichoff.

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Think my GBLE is around game #450 and no ghosting issues. So I imagine later games should be OK.

How much did it go for?