afm and t2 are sold. thank you folks!
Now who wants that JP topper I have listed in there. I can give a discount outside the ebay fees

I just wanted to post that superman and one of the scared stiff are sold. If I have time I will pull another 10. It takes a lot of time to download the pics and take the pics, and all of that, while trying to get ready for patz. I am finishing a MM resto that looks so good that I promised to have complete for the show.

here is a thought for the day. I hear this every single day, sometimes many times a day. People will contact me to ask if I have a pf in stock. If I have it I say yes, and I describe it, the flaws, and the price. Every single day I hear back from someone who is just outraged because the price of the pf is more than he paid for the game!!!!!!! This week someone wanted a harlem globetrotters pf and I told him the really nice nos is 600. he was blown away because he only paid 50 for the game!!

I just want some folks who don't know that it cost the same to make a pf, no matter what the title. a kiss pf cost the same to make as a dolly parton, and a pinbot cost the same as an attack from mars. brake pads for a 1987 camery cost the same as pads for a new camery.how much the game is worth or you paid for it, is none of my business, at all. I sell pf's. actually, I am phasing out pf sales because of the cost now days.

I have a feeling I just set my self up for a bunch of pranks.

ok I have to share one more. a guy contacted me thru ebay with a very simple letter. I want a tommy pf.
so I wrote back I have a nice nos tommy for 700.

here was his reply, which was my first laugh of the day. I am not posting his name because I don't think that would be right, but maybe he will post on this thread. anyway here is the reply

No no no thanks seems a little high bought the game 4 years ago for 1600. that price seems like an eBay price it world have to been cleared by one of the big boys and you're not one of them.good luck bro

he contacted me thru ebay by the way.
Maybe you have to deal with the 50 emails a day to get a laugh out of this one, but it worked for me.
cheers, bros
kruzman

anyway I wanted to bump my post and share some of my grief with you all

I added another 8 or so pf to the list, and everything that didn't sell from the last listing is now make offer. If you are serious, you should pm me with an offer. If I don't have to pay ebay 10% I can lower the price.
here are some of the pf's listed as wall hangers or restorables

afm very restorable
whirlwind. very little work necessary. I wish people send pf's like this to be restored
T2
Getaway
Black water 100
No good gophers
bride of pinbot
space station wall hanger
Funhouse. I also have a nice overlay available
F-14
white water
JP topper

I will try to pull 10 more next week.
here is a link to my store on ebay

ebay.com link: ebay.com

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This is off topic but I just found a nos populated EATPM pf on ebay. It has 3 pics from far away and no description. I was very interested, but I am guessing it is going to be a chore to get a description of the condition of the finish and or planking. 12 pics are free and the description is free. the bidd starts at 2k. I don't get it

ok couple things here.. when it comes to nos pf's like matta hari, playboy and EK, paragon...
95% are quite planked. Since I sand off all of the existing finish (since it is failing) that takes of about 1/2 of the planking, but where ever the planking goes thru light colors has to be painted,
Now when it comes to sys 11, now we are talking51% are planked enough to cost another 500 in painting. The reason I mentioned it is because the seller is my competition. someone who dosent do it for a living, and it wont ruien his rep if it has all kinds of planking especialy since 40 % 0f people now don't know what it is and will be happy because it is better than theirs. Little do they know that the finish material has a 30 years life expectancy, and soon as the ball hits it, it will wear fast. But the big problem is NO verbal description and no use of the 12 free pics. heck I am selling pf's for wall hangers that I tell people you wont be able to restore it. so many people want to buy some of my bad pf;s and install them in their games as is, and I have to stop the sale and tell them they are thinking wrong.
This is one of the diffrences of buying a pf from someone who is a pf professional, and someone who is selling one for top dollar and goes back to work for exxon. I have to be honest that the customer he doesn't have the skills to restore the pf to good as new, and not to buy it, because one bummed customer can cause me lots of damage. what willit matter to someone who has a job that already pays 100k a year?

who was wishing I had a JD?
Not only do I have a nos JD pf, I have a nice used one that could easily be made perfect. heck I even have a beautiful JD game, that is one of the nicest. It was at patz for sale, and still is for sale.

Lastly the whirlwind is sold, so is the f14, and fh.
I have f 14 inserts and I may have another f14 pf. if you want pf's you should always contact your full service pf retailer. This is why my stuff cost a little more. I have 70K of inventory.

lastly, I have gotten a lot of emails asking for pf titles, but many people are saying things like "I love your work and someday hope to have one"

I want to thank you people for your kindness. My biggest problem in my job is selling my art which is very personal, and near to my heart. I don't have to do the best work I possibly can, but when I do and it works out.... and the customer notices, and bothers to say wow. It really juices me up. much like when I do a full 200 hour repaint on a xenon pf, and people don't realize it is not nos, but when I try to get 7 bucks an hour, they say "CPR sells them for 700"

so if you don't understand why I don't do many restores any more, its because that at 7 dollars an hour, people say it is too much. Of course it looks like looking in to the eye of god, but 1400 for a cleared, better than nos xenon is "more than I paid for the game" I hear that every single day

Good morning my pinball brothers and sisters. The t2 is sold, but if you were just about to buy that, I have another I will list eventually. I made a list of the 56 used pf that I have not listed, that I plan to list about 8 at a time, per week.
I was going to post the list, but then I know I will get hundreds of emails asking questions about each, so how about this. Just go ahead post right on here if there is any title you are seriously looking for. weather it be for wall or restore. I will use the request to help me decide which pf's to bring up next for sale.

This is a great op for you guys who want to try to start restoring, and touching up. I have some for 75 for practice. since I bought almost all of them on ebay I paid 50 dollars shipping, on each. also on sooo many I paid a heck of a lot more than they were worth. sometimes because of the title, sometimes because of misleading pics. I will say this, so far all of the pf's I have listed, the prices are no mare than what I have in to each. and quite a few are listed at less than I paid with shiping.

For some it has been like 8 years, and I haven't got a chance to get to them, I don't see it happening. of course there are some pf's I am not going to list because if I ever do get a chance to restore them I can sell for top dollar, like safe cracker, shadow. Guns and roses.

Thanks to the people who have bought pf's, and the folks who just wrote positive emails.

also look for my monthly list of nos pf's for sale/ trade.
cheers, ron kruzman (pf big boy)

Not doin too good yet. I do have a upper pharaoh which is hard to spell. But remember,all of these pf's are used and need to be restored to some level, so if you are thinking you will get a pf nice enough to do a pf swap, as is. That just is not going to happen. I am surprised to realize that a lot of people are thinking that way. a pf swap is a big deal, and I don't kn ow anyone who would do it with just a nice used pf (when it could easily be restored and cleared) although I said this before publicly and someone totally disagreed with me. so ???????? what do I know.

SORRY FOLKS, I JUST GOT MY FIRST "THAT IS MORE THAN I PAID FOR THE WHOLE GAME" EMAIL. When this happens the computer gets tossed aside until tomorrow morning. I realize I am exposing my buttons, but do you know how many time I hear that stupid statement when it means nothing to me at all. some games cost 400 bucks like flash, some games cost7000 like MB. since the pf is about 15% of the mass of a game, if a nos flash pf is over 60 bucks, its a no deal?
Or like I hear often that they got the game for a steal like a KISS for 400, and let me tell you they love to bragg about it, but then for sure I am going to hear that the pf "IS MORE THAN I PAID FOR THE GAME!!!!!""" Boo hoo hhooooo I just want to tell them to go kill themselves, but they wouldn't get it.
so anyway. if you need me I will answer emails tomorrow cheers, ron

sorry to have not caught up with this thread. a lot of the pf's have sold, but if you go to the ebay link in the first post you can see what is left. the getaway sold, and the pool sharks just sold. I am going to try to pick another 8 to put up for sale, but I cant tell if people want wallhangers (that means older titles, because the price will be lower) or do people want restorable pf's?
I have had to tell a lot of people that I don't suggest investing in all of the work of a pf swap without restoring the pf. If the pf is close to new, it will be that much les work to make perfect, and clear. this will make your work worth while, and worth money. if you sell a game with a restored nice pf it will sell for whatever you want assuming you did a good job. if you do all of the work to just install a used pf, it is just a normal used game, I doubt the value went up much at all.

I do have a shadow used pf, that I would like to restore because the only thing that has to be done is paint the sacktom hole, and go thru the insert key lines for cracks and you have a new pf, which I can sell for a lot with clear, so I hate to sel those. the problem is I don't have the time, so if someone offers a nice price, I will sell it. I paid over 400 plus ship for it because of the condition, and that was a deal, if you think about the posiblities.
also I am going to make my monthly list of nos pf today, so watch for that. cheers, ron

always looking for more nos/new repro pf's for cash or trade. or I will trade games for pf's and vice versa.
cheers, kruzman